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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Depends on what you've got to spend.
Can you give us more information, about it? What does it need to do?
Edit: And what kharma said.
Awesome. I think I'll try them out.
Koroviev
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660ti seems like a safe bet.
7950 or 660Ti then.
7950 comes with Crysis 3 and BioShock Infinite for free if that swings it in anyway.
MarshMellow96
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Another day without my green audio jack or, indeed, my audio working properly. Realtek drivers won't install, speakers aren't detected, and audio through HDMI cuts out constantly unless I have Windows Media Player turned on and playing a DVD. Great stuff.
I might just uninstall windows and start again.
I might just uninstall windows and start again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated because I'm pulling my fucking hair out here.
Yes, their not threaded. Use a screwdriver with a thick handle. Tip i received from someone here.
Get a sound card?
If you disable the Realtek audio in the bios , will HDMI work properly then ?
also, try booting in safemode to install the Realtek drivers
Azure Dream
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I've put off buying this for too long. Any quick recommendations on something that would fit the mark? I can start ordering cords randomly, but I'd appreciate suggestions. It can even be as simple as an extension cable with a relatively small straight end.
MarshMellow96
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I'm going to have to give in by the looks of it!
How do I disable Realtek audio in the BIOS? All I can see is HD Audio options and Realtek LAN controller.
I Tried installing through safe mode a few times - Realtek doesn't show up anywhere on the system save for when I want to uninstall it.
If the mounting hardware is getting in the way of the sata ports i would remove the mounting hardware and mount the ssd with some velcro. You can pretty much stick them anywhere you want.
Rand0m TAG
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disable the "HD audio" in bios under Onboard Devices Configuration
Koroviev
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Are we talking about a desktop? Because my SSD is held in place with a single screw and no mount. Works great!
Not a whole lot if we're talking about GPUs and gaming. Some specific programs benefit from CUDA. AMD cards are generally a bit cheaper, especially with respect to the mid-range and lower-end cards.
MarshMellow96
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Disabled and it doesn't show up. Looking at the startup tab in msconfig, I can see Realtek HD Audio Manager, but it doesn't show up on startup.
Azure Dream
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At this point I'd have to pretty much remove everything to unscrew the SSD to remount it. The Fractal Define R3 had a "feature" where you could mount them on the side, but you had to do it before you installed the motherboard. I'll know for the future, though.
I'll just go ahead and go with one of these two StarTech cables. At worst I'm out $8 and have to find something else.
Rand0m TAG
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I do the same with my ssd.
Thanks, looking for a new gpu. Mine got damaged and I'm running on an internal
Is it worth waiting for the new batch?
MarshMellow96
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I have Digital Audio (HDMI), if that's what you mean? It's plugged into the videocard.
Enabling HD Audio makes Realtek stuff show up in playback devices, but I still don't get the taskbar icon, nor am I able to get audio via the green audio jack.
Koroviev
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What's your budget? I wouldn't want to be without a dedicated card for several months, but it might be a good idea to pursue a mid-range model now and then make a decision about spending a significant amount of money when there are more options on the table.
OK so is that working correctly now that you have disabled the Realtek (HD Audio) in bios ?
Because HDMI audio from vidcard and the onboard (Realtek) audio are completely seperate in terms of hardware and drivers , so if both have issues I'd suspect something is wrong with your Windows installation somehow ?
MarshMellow96
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Having tried disabling HD Audio, HDMI audio still doesn't work properly. It still cuts out, unless I have a DVD playing on Windows Media Player. I have had Realtek HD Audio Manager installed and working before, but audio was cutting out and I was advised to try onboard audio alone, which is when I found out about the rear/front panel audio jacks not working.
So this could be a Windows thing, rather than a motherboard thing?
Rand0m TAG
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200-230 ish
For that sort of money you're looking at the 660 or 7870.
The 7870 has BioShock Infinite but you lose Crysis 3 but instead get Tomb Raider.
Rand0m TAG
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Where do you find the deals?
Anton668
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newegg
For the free games? Newegg are the only ones listing them so far afaik.
Rand0m TAG
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NCIX shows nothing.
PM sent. Thanks, dude. This is just awesome.
Deadpandas
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any opinions on these pcs here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-GAMING-SYSTEM-ULTRA-COMPACT-Ivybridge/dp/B00ADL25C2/ref=sr_1_97?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1359940269&sr=1-97
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-GAMING-SYSTEM-ULTRA-COMPACT-INCREDIBLE/dp/B00ADL25P4/ref=sr_1_98?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1359940269&sr=1-98
I'm looking to buy prebuilt because I really can't be bothered building one myself and I don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience. Is there anything wrong with the ones above? What sort of games could they play?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-GAMING-SYSTEM-ULTRA-COMPACT-Ivybridge/dp/B00ADL25C2/ref=sr_1_97?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1359940269&sr=1-97
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-GAMING-SYSTEM-ULTRA-COMPACT-INCREDIBLE/dp/B00ADL25P4/ref=sr_1_98?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1359940269&sr=1-98
I'm looking to buy prebuilt because I really can't be bothered building one myself and I don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience. Is there anything wrong with the ones above? What sort of games could they play?
I saw a bitfenix prodigy on craiglist list brand new for $40 and bought it on impulse. Now I want to build a rig in it with some spare parts I have and maybe some new ones from microcenter, but I already have a gaming computer, WTF am I doing? Why did I buy this case, it just sits here taunting and seducing me to build inside it.
Koroviev
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Lousy for gaming. The GPUs are not gaming GPUs. It's a really common thing when it comes to prebuilt machines.
And unless you have a friend who can put one together for you, you're going to a pay a lot for the convenience....anywhere from a couple hundred extra to double the cost of the parts or more.
You really aren't going to get decent value for your money unless you build your own. Building it is the easiest part. It's making the decisions that will take time and effort
"INCREDIBLE 4GB NVIDIA GT 630 Graphics" LOL!
Speedy Blue Dude
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Hey GAF, I'm considering buying a Pre-Built PC (yeah I know...) and then upgrading it later and buying parts for it later on.
Between these 2 desktops, which is the best? What can I expect in terms of gaming? I'm not really buying them for gaming, but I'll probably do some. I'm fine with 720p at 60 on medium. Can I expect that or Higher?
Desktop 1
Desktop 2
Between these 2 desktops, which is the best? What can I expect in terms of gaming? I'm not really buying them for gaming, but I'll probably do some. I'm fine with 720p at 60 on medium. Can I expect that or Higher?
Desktop 1
Desktop 2
Anton668
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Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart
a quick look at that chart and the cards in the in those prebuilts, not the best for gaming...
a quick look at that chart and the cards in the in those prebuilts, not the best for gaming...
Koroviev
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If you're looking to save money in the short term, buying a prebuilt PC is not the way to do it. As I said above, you are always paying substantially more for less when it comes to prebuilt machines. And those machines are poor for gaming, even with graphical compromises.
If the issue is budget restrictions, here are my suggestions:
- Pick up an i3 + compatiable motherboard (you can upgrade this to an i5/i7 later)
- 7850 (great price, solid performance @1080p)
- 8GB low-profile RAM (Samsung preferred)
- 128GB SSD (OS + programs; makes a modern PC)
- 500GB HDD (Western Digital or don't bother)
- one of the budget cases in the OP
- 80+ certified (or better) 450-500W PSU (see OP for preferred brands)
If you're okay with the performance you're getting now, then wait for this year's batch of cards...if you see something good on the table, pick it up. Should be plenty of options by then.
Not that great for gaming, IMO. Just to make a comparison: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Bleb (Tried to match your specs)
You would save a good amount of money and could use it for a better GPU, for example.
Deadpandas
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^^ So that would be able to play most games a at least moderate settings? I'm not looking for a beast that runs everything on max settings with perfect framerate or anything like that
I see, thanks for letting me know, I thought it looked decent.
Guess I'll just wait it out until I'm not feeling too lazy to build one. I'll definitely be getting that case though, it looks too nice.
Lousy for gaming. The GPUs are not gaming GPUs. It's a really common thing when it comes to prebuilt machines.
And unless you have a friend who can put one together for you, you're going to a pay a lot for the convenience....anywhere from a couple hundred extra to double the cost of the parts or more.
You really aren't going to get decent value for your money unless you build your own. Building it is the easiest part. It's making the decisions that will take time and effort
"INCREDIBLE 4GB NVIDIA GT 630 Graphics" LOL!
I see, thanks for letting me know, I thought it looked decent.
Guess I'll just wait it out until I'm not feeling too lazy to build one. I'll definitely be getting that case though, it looks too nice.
Speedy Blue Dude
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It's not budget that's the problem. It's just buying a pre-built computer is more convenient and easier to go to the store and just buy a decent pre-built one. So what can I expect from the Pre-Built ones I posted?
Koroviev
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Not much. Almost all of the parts are poor compromises, no SSD, and the GPU isn't up to the task of playing modern games. If you're going the Nvidia route, a GTX650ti is pretty much the bare minimum required to run modern games.
You don't have a component store within <50 miles? You could always pick up all of the parts at one of those places and assemble that night.
From what I've seen, a "decent" prebuilt PC will set you back $1500. Ridiculous.
And frankly, if you were to watch someone build a PC and see how simple it is, you would be insulted by the premium most companies charge.
^^ So that would be able to play most games a at least moderate settings? I'm not looking for a beast that runs everything on max settings with perfect framerate or anything like that
I see, thanks for letting me know, I thought it looked decent.
Guess I'll just wait it out until I'm not feeling too lazy to build one. I'll definitely be getting that case though, it looks too nice.
You say that now, but just wait until you get your hands on a decent machine. You will want more and better.
Anton668
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Minesweeper and Solitaire should look awesome!!!
This person speaks the truth. I was worried/nervous before building. But after the help from this thread/videos round the web/various other sites, Ive built/upgraded at least 5 with no worries.
Plus there is a certain satisfaction you get from doing it yourself!
that said, if anyone is ever in my neck of the woods and wants something built, stop on by! i'll do it for free...
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