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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Do you have all your other parts already?
Hah, manufacturing problems on the 900D. Called it.
I'm sure that is just the beginning. Case has too much for its price tag.
No.
I'm struggling with seeing what it is I need for everything in a computer.
Like in the OP list it says the motherboard and so on, but then I get confused about CPU coolers.
This probably sounds really dumb to all of you.
Not at all. We were all there once. Feel free to ask any questions you have. CPU coolers are optional for better overclocking/quieter/cooler computers. You can skip the stuff if you like though it is highly recommended. The Cooler Master 212 is recommended for having a great price to performance ratio. What other things are confusing to you? Where do you live? You might have a gaffer nearby who would be willing to lend a hand.
EDIT: There is also the survey in the OP that you can fill out to give us a better idea of what exactly it is you want your computer to do, and we can make recommendations based on that.
electricpirate
Member
Anytime you buy a CPU, you get a CPU cooler with it.
If you want to overclock your PC, you'll want a better cooler, if you don't care, or If it's confusing you, you can ignore it, stock fans work fine.
Yeah the OP said something about a questionnaire but I couldn't find it.
What's overclock?
Make go faster than original specifications. Most people don't need to do it.
And here's the Questionnaire, it was right under Builds.
Basic Desktop Questions:
Your Current Specs: CPU / RAM (DDR2/DDR3) / Motherboard / GPU (Graphics) / PSU (Power Supply) / Case
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming, Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii), Video Editing, HD Streaming, 3D/Model work, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback).
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later? Are you buying a new monitor?
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120? Will you use CUDA accelerated software?
Looking to reuse any parts?: List make and model (e.g. Corsair 520HX 520W, 640GB SATA HDD, Antec 900)
When will you build?: What time frames are doable? Are you building this weekend? Do you need it in a week or so? Can you wait a month or two?
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!)
thiefinthenight34
Neo Member
Been lurking here for a while (since 2010), my first post! Love this thread, helped me build my machine last year and pretty much followed the OP and built a machine that I'm in love with, but with building my own machine after running a P4 for eight years, I now have the itch to upgrade.
With the release of Far Cry 3 @ Crysis 3, I really want to get back in there and start playing these games at max settings with 60+ FPS. I'm sure it'll be a nice investment on my part, but I'm hoping I'll be able to make minor upgrades to get where I want to be.
Here's what my haul was when I built it. (Pardon the crappy pic)
Here's what my computer shows up with in Speccy.
So what would I need? Any help? Thanks in advance guys!
With the release of Far Cry 3 @ Crysis 3, I really want to get back in there and start playing these games at max settings with 60+ FPS. I'm sure it'll be a nice investment on my part, but I'm hoping I'll be able to make minor upgrades to get where I want to be.
Here's what my haul was when I built it. (Pardon the crappy pic)
Here's what my computer shows up with in Speccy.
So what would I need? Any help? Thanks in advance guys!
DownWithTheShip
Member
Ok, with my tax returns just around the corner i've been authorized to build a new computer.
I would appreciate any help you fellow gaffers could provide.
Current setup
Your Current Specs: CPU / RAM (DDR2/DDR3) / Motherboard / GPU (Graphics) / PSU (Power Supply) / Case
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W (currently overclocked to 3ghz)
4GB DDR2
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
GTX 650 Ti 2GB (not upgrading)
KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-600MA1S 600W ATX 12V Ver.2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply (not planning to upgrade unless necessary)
Already have case. not upgrading. no idea what brand
Budget: Price Range + Country
$500
USA
Main Use:
Gaming
Web surfing
Monitor Resolution:
Samsung 1080p (not upgrading)
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120? Will you use CUDA accelerated software?
Not upgrading video card, but must be able to handle games such as FarCry3 and even Crysis 3, not necessarily at max specs.
Looking to reuse any parts?
Video card: GTX 650 Ti 2GB
Power Supply: KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-600MA1S 600W ATX 12V Ver.2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply
Case
Monitor
When will you build?:
Within the next month
Will you be overclocking?:
Maybe?
Do your magic, Gaf!
I would appreciate any help you fellow gaffers could provide.
Current setup
Your Current Specs: CPU / RAM (DDR2/DDR3) / Motherboard / GPU (Graphics) / PSU (Power Supply) / Case
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W (currently overclocked to 3ghz)
4GB DDR2
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
GTX 650 Ti 2GB (not upgrading)
KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-600MA1S 600W ATX 12V Ver.2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply (not planning to upgrade unless necessary)
Already have case. not upgrading. no idea what brand
Budget: Price Range + Country
$500
USA
Main Use:
Gaming
Web surfing
Monitor Resolution:
Samsung 1080p (not upgrading)
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120? Will you use CUDA accelerated software?
Not upgrading video card, but must be able to handle games such as FarCry3 and even Crysis 3, not necessarily at max specs.
Looking to reuse any parts?
Video card: GTX 650 Ti 2GB
Power Supply: KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-600MA1S 600W ATX 12V Ver.2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply
Case
Monitor
When will you build?:
Within the next month
Will you be overclocking?:
Maybe?
Do your magic, Gaf!
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
The second I see one while at Microcenter and can inspect it before buying (or right after but in the store) I'll probably splurge on it and hold on to it until I do a build in the summertime. Case is awesome. Hoping the reviews are as positive as I expect them to be.
Your video card is going to be a limiting factor no matter what you do, but basically with $500 you could easily do a 3570k, Asrock Motherboard, 8gig of Ram and Hyper212.
Save up your pennies though, that card is going to need replacing in the next year.
DownWithTheShip
Member
I'll be fine for a year or two with the 650. I know it may be limiting, but it's huge since I was coming from a 4870.
Edit: any suggestions on the specific parts I would need?
New video card, and that's it.
Xonar DGX, Sound Blaster Z at just above the $100 mark, or an external DAC if you just want rich sound.
thiefinthenight34
Neo Member
Any recommendations? Not too worried about price. Do I have to be worried about the new line of cards coming out?
What is an External DAC?
Pick a price point and go. Hard to go wrong these days. The more you spend, the more performance you'll get.
New cards aren't due out until late Q3 or Q4.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417447
Your Current Specs: CPU / RAM (DDR2/DDR3) / Motherboard / GPU (Graphics) / PSU (Power Supply) / Case
I don't have a PC now.
Budget: Price Range + Country
£500 ( I could go higher but I like £500)
UK
Main Use: Gaming and uses the internet
Monitor Resolution: I don't have a monitor so yes I will need a new one, but I have no idea what a good monitor would be
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Don't know what CUDA is but 30 FPS would be fine.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Nope
When will you build?: In a couple of months
Will you be overclocking?: Don't know.
Did I do it right?
I don't have a PC now.
Budget: Price Range + Country
£500 ( I could go higher but I like £500)
UK
Main Use: Gaming and uses the internet
Monitor Resolution: I don't have a monitor so yes I will need a new one, but I have no idea what a good monitor would be
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Don't know what CUDA is but 30 FPS would be fine.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Nope
When will you build?: In a couple of months
Will you be overclocking?: Don't know.
Did I do it right?
Things can change fairly frequently, new CPUs and motherboards are due out in three months.
If you're planning on going beforehand, price out the budget/standard PC to see how it lines up.
Sort of, I'll throw something UK based together for you in a minute. If you're not building for a few months you might as well wait for Haswell.
I was more wondering what I would get for that budget really, like if it was worth it.
Incl. a monitor but without Windows this comes in at around £500
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/FdNw
Case could be changed for a Source 210 or a Bitfenix Merc.
Thanks.
Trying to make a decision here...came across another Asus 670 gtx TOP edition, which I've been looking for to sli, but I am not sure that I need it at 1080p. I do utilize downsampling via gpu, and had x'fired 6950s before which the micro stuttering drove me nuts. I've read that's been minimized to a degree, but I'm not sure if i need another one at 1080p. What say you guys?
I can't get a hold of Samsung 30nm RAM
I'm debating whether to go withe Seasonic now that mkenyon and Lutro0 told me how much of a bitch it is to sleeve that PSU, so now I'm looking for another 1000W-ish PSU that is just as reliable.
Fiance said no to headphones
Only things I've ordered so far are the
-2 Titans
-900D (even though mkenyon hates it)
-Yamaha YHT-397
-Sensei RAW
-QcK mouse pad
-1 3TB seagate instead of 2 (cutbacks due to Titans costing more)
-256gb Samsung 840 pro
-3770K
Does anyone know if the Yamaha YHT-397 comes with an optical audio cable?
Koroviev
Member
He's not even married yet, lol
Its not platinum or anything but I've decided to sleeve my CM 1000W Silent Pro Gold. It comes with the flat cables which seem like they are really easy to sleeve. Remove the pins rip the flat cables apart, sleeve, put pins back in. Shouldn't be too hard
Why the HTiB? I would go with a good set of headphones over a HTiB any day. If you want to get into HT, buy seperates over time. You can get great deals if you look.
dragonballjoseph
Member
I have a graphics card question.
Would the performance of a 3GB 7970 be greater than 2x 2GB 7850's?
Would the performance of a 3GB 7970 be greater than 2x 2GB 7850's?
GHG
Member
The YHT-397 doesn't come with any optical/hdmi cables, you will need to buy them separately. You don't really need an optical cable if I'm being honest, I've figured out the hard way (and by that I mean after purchasing an expensive high quality optical cable that is now doing nothing) that HDMI is the best solution.
I've now hooked mine up via Nvidia HDMI and I get awesome surround sound. Follow this guide - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291286/h...-hdmi-audio-video-hd-audio-bitstreaming-works
I followed this guide to make all my MP3's play through all 5 channels and the bass through the sub http://www.overclock.net/t/316079/h...-6-channels-5-1-setup-itunes-6-works-with-5-1
So you should go GPU ---> HDMI cable ----> HDMI input 1 on the A/V receiver ----> HDMI Out ---> HDTV/Monitor
I have the same HTiB as what he's just bought and I'll have you know its a very high quality piece of kit and not your standard HTiB. You'd have to spend significantly more ($1000+) to get anything that would be better in terms of audio quality and in terms of the quality of the receiver. I'd normally advocate what you are saying about buying everything separate, but after doing a lot of research that is actually the best thing you can get without breaking the bank. Plus you free up money to get better parts for the PC
.Voice of Reason
Banned
Looks like the over clocking guide in the OP is broken, are there any other good guides I can use?
anyone
Xdrive05
Member
The SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 7950 requires a 6-pin and an 8-pin for power, and my Antec 550w only has two 6-pins. Is it safe to use an adapter to make one of them into an 8-pin for this video card?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/...-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition
Go to an office supply store and sit in a bunch.
Wafflecakes
Member
So. I just got my PC up and running again after an upgrade (I also did a full Windows reinstall to fix some issues) and I totally forgot how I set up my PC to play blurays in the past.
Is there a recommended free bluray player out there? I honestly rarely watched them so I cannot recall what I used before.
Is there a recommended free bluray player out there? I honestly rarely watched them so I cannot recall what I used before.
You can get VLC to pay them in a roundabout way that I can't post here. Google it. Otherwise I'm not sure of any free player unless one came with the drive.
Voice of Reason
Banned
Man, I'm just getting into PC building and this looks overwhelming. Hopefully I don't fuck up and destroy my hardware.
Is overclocking a CPU enough for optimal performance, or should I do the GPU as well?
Overclocking intel chips is easy as hell. Buy a sufficient cooler, set volts to 1.35 and multiplier to 45 and go. If you want to be more efficient you can then bump the multiplier up to see if you got a really good chip or instead lower the voltage incrementally while continually testing in prime95 until you find out the minimum volts required for your chip to run at 4.5ghz.
For GPU depends what card you get, but if you want the most you can be getting out of it you need to overclock it as well. GPU is even easier to test because you don't need to enter the bios and you can make adjustments on the fly without rebooting, unless your drivers crash.
For GPU depends what card you get, but if you want the most you can be getting out of it you need to overclock it as well. GPU is even easier to test because you don't need to enter the bios and you can make adjustments on the fly without rebooting, unless your drivers crash.
Wafflecakes
Member
Hrm. Will have to go through all my stacks of CD's to see if one came with it.
Angel Abaddon
Member
Just bought a 7950, but found the model I got (XFX Double D) needs a 6 and 8 pin power cable. Its not a huge problem as my PSU is modular, but it turns out I've got one of the early batches of Corsair HX620w's that went out without the 6+2pin cable. I'm putting in a request for one, but in the meantime, does anyone know if a 6 to 8pin adaptor is suitable as a temporary solution, since the spare cable could take a while to arrive? Been looking around and can't get a straight answer.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Overclocked my PC for the first time in my life. Bumped my 3570K to 4.5Ghz. Ran Intel Burn Test a few times, ran a few game engine tests (Unity, Resident Evil 6, FF XIV) and as a final measure ran Prime95 for 14 hours and received no errors or warnings. My current idle temp seems to be hovering between the mid 30s to about 41. Is that Ok?
What was your max temp with Prime and Burn test?
Voice of Reason
Banned
What increments should I be reducing the voltage? I'm getting a 7970.
TerryLee81
Member
Guys, I'd like to change some of my case fans.
Should I get PWM or voltage regulated fans?
Should I get PWM or voltage regulated fans?
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