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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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exact same. Doing the swap for someone and they are swapping for the same.
Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H
that's the motherboard.
in the event that there's a problem, should I be good with just downloading the drivers from the gigabyte site and installing off usb?
This might sound like a stupid queston but is there a difference between this http://www.infinitecables.com/pop/usb-302.htm and a USB extender?
They usually ship it out the same day or next day. As for the actually shipping time not long for me because I live in Toronto (they ship out of markham).
That is a USB extender
Thanks, I thought so too but USB Extenders had its own section,
The other section is active USB extenders which may be what you need depending on the length. I wouldn't get a passive one at anything over 10ft.
Yeah the 4H has more power phases, and has super awesome red vrm heat sinks instead of blue heat sinks. They're pretty much the same.
Depending on which actual chip you get (some suck, like mine, some don't. It's a crapshoot) you could probably pull off 4.0 without changing the voltage, which should let you get away with a stock cooler. The EVOs and whatnot are pretty cheap so I'd get one if you think you'll ever overclock at all, that way you only install it once and don't have to deal with paste and all that.
Your build is fine (very similar to mine, as a matter of fact), though you could have gotten away with just 8GB of RAM, but if you can afford 16GB, why not?
I got my $53 16GB (4x4GB) RAM sticks today.
Probably should have bought two sets since a friend is looking to build a PC soon.
adamantypants
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Any word on what the best GTX 780 is? I'm not really needing to go 780ti so I'm wondering which brand is best/has best cooling.
I'm eyeing the EVGA 03G-P4-3784-KR GTX 780. It supports dual BIOS and I'd love to fool around with that stuff. Any reason I should pick another brand over this?
I'm eyeing the EVGA 03G-P4-3784-KR GTX 780. It supports dual BIOS and I'd love to fool around with that stuff. Any reason I should pick another brand over this?
Check if the bios mod that raises the power restrictions works for that card.
Your build is fine (very similar to mine, as a matter of fact), though you could have gotten away with just 8GB of RAM, but if you can afford 16GB, why not?
I got my $53 16GB (4x4GB) RAM sticks today.
Pics of the whole (open) case from the side?
Once a month ideally. I don't use a a vacuum because of increased risk of a static discharge and vacuum isn't effective anyway, you want positive pressure to expel dust. This works great for me, takes a minute, I take the rig to the balcony for it.: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001J4ZOAW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
You take the components out or leave them in?
a) Buy a can of compressed air for $5
b) Take PC outside
c) Remove side panel
d) Blow compressed air all around
Just remember that when you blow compressed air through fans, hold the fan in place with your fingers. Letting the compressed air turn the fan around can damage the bearing since the speed and direction will not match what the fan was designed to do.
I just unhook the cables and take it outside. Even if your case is set to create positive pressure, the circulation still captures a lot and I mean a lot of dust, even if the PC room is OCD clean, no smoking, etc, etc.
I found air cans cost ineffective and they do a poor job. Even if cans can get most dust out, which would imply using them weekly, most people just take the side panel off and start spraying so in effect they just "kick the dust" up, once the computer is back on, circulation just recaptures the dust.
What the other poster said is definitely true, gently hold a fan blade as you go over the components to prevent damage to bearings.
Of course you can use air cans but once you use a compressor, you will see how much more effective they are and the amount of dust that collects even in the cleanest of rooms will blow your mind.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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I just brush the dust to the bottom of the case with a small paintbrush, then vacuum it up.
CyanideFuse
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My auntie has a PC with Windows XP. Support is being stopped very soon as is support for MS Security Essentials so she needs to sort this out.
What virus software does GAF advise to use?
What virus software does GAF advise to use?
I have used vacuum too before too and even if the risk of a static shock is exaggerated, dust is stubborn for lack of a better term. Fans nowadays have impressive CFM ratings, multiply by then number of fans you have installed, that's a lot of air they move and dust along with it. I forgot what the exact word for those laundry napkins is but you can use them a dust filters on the case to see how much collects over time. Linus tech tips did a cool "dusting" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9T6WGFmam0
Prophet Steve
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I thought it was the free version of Avast that was pretty good now.
CadetMahoney
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I use a standard air compressor that I was going to use for painting, looks more or less exactly like this.
The airbrushing didn't work out and I can't be bothered to sell it so it's just a PC dust cleaner now. Very quiet. Over time it will probably save more money than buying compressed air cans.
500W TDP... I just don't see that loop as adequate for the job. If this one is not to exceed 90C under load, it needs all the help it can get, high ASIC rated cards, optimal case cooling, lower than average ambient temps...
4K/60Hz monitors dropping below $600 already but dual card setups don't quite get it done now, AMD's 3xx and high end Maxwell parts ought to.
Mohonky
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Just to clarify on this I am using uefi and attempting to install under uefi. If I take the sata for the bluray drive out of one input and plug it in another it will find the drive, however on reboot it disappears again and reappears at random :/ really need help with this its killing me.
I took out my normal hdd sata plug and got win 8 at least installed so I can not at least try to make a usb boot to install to try and get round the problem but this is frustrating me as I dont know whether it will help with my bluray drive just coming and going.
thunder_snail
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michaelius
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Technically dust build up can be minimal inside case.
All you need is good dust filters before fans and you need to keep positive pressure (more fans blowing air inside case than exhaust fans) then air is moving out of case and not sucked inside together with dust.
I've got Silverstone Raven 2 with 3x180 fans blowing air into case and 1x120 outside and dust buildup inside case is minimal.
It doesn't look like NVLink will be in consumer level mobos for a while though, and they said Pascal will support PCIe 3.0.
thunder_snail
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I bet there will be nvlink mobos widely available but for high-prices. (like x79 boards which aren't for consumers really).
Also won't using pcie 3.0/4.0 gimp the card by taking away unified memory? (Will unified memory work without nvlink?)
I actually think unified memory won't be used for any pc games to keep backward compatibility with older hardware. But getting the pcie version of cards will feel like getting a gimped version. (kinda like how agp cards felt back when pcie was introduced. No real performance gain but still...)
If its 1200 or less i may actually buy it.
Would need to watercool my cpu and buy a new PSU though.
SilverBulletKY
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I have one of the early i7 processors. Probably came out in 2009 but I'd have to check when I get home the exact model. How do those hold up today if I just got a new graphics card? I can play Diablo 3 on max settings still but noticed Elder Scrolls Online is doing very bad. Have to change to low-medium settings for that one to run decent.
Crimsonsky
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What kind of new video card? Also if you have a i7 920 or better you are fine. The 920 has some serious legs.
SilverBulletKY
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Awesome, I should be good on the processor then. I'm not sure about the card.. I haven't' done a ton of research. Nothing that would break the bank but right now I have a Radeon 6500.
Crimsonsky
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CPU's are given much more credence than they are due. It's GPU's that really matter when it comes to gaming. So long as you stick to intel, you are normally doing pretty good. There isn't a single game, that I have played, that maxes CPU usage or is CPU bottlenecked by the i7-920 I have upstairs. The same is true of the i7-3770k I have downstairs. All I've ever done is upgrade the GPU and they run whatever on max settings.
A grand for the R-295. Anymore than that and they can find a different sucker.
Mohonky
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Just to clarify on this I am using uefi and attempting to install under uefi. If I take the sata for the bluray drive out of one input and plug it in another it will find the drive, however on reboot it disappears again and reappears at random :/ really need help with this its killing me.
I took out my normal hdd sata plug and got win 8 at least installed so I can not at least try to make a usb boot to install to try and get round the problem but this is frustrating me as I dont know whether it will help with my bluray drive just coming and going.
justsomeguy
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My i7 920 is still rocking, pairing it with an R9 270 as a recent cheap upgrade and playing at 1680 x 1050. Looks great. Arkham Origins seems to run at 60fps, Witcher 2 runs at a high frame rate (seems to often hit 60 but I'm not super sensitive to it so may be wrong).
SilverBulletKY
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That looks to be a good card for the money. I may end up getting that one.
Isn't it the same procedure with a small compressor? How do you clean it if you use a compressor vs the can?
That is not an adequate amount of cooling. There must be some huge down clocking going on with that card.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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Actually each is faster than a single R9 290X.
What else can they possibly do?
Objectively Bad Opinion
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It's probably adequate.
If you consider that inadequate, then what about Titan Z's cooling? That's going to be a 500 watt card also.
If you consider that inadequate, then what about Titan Z's cooling? That's going to be a 500 watt card also.
I honestly think an air cooler would have more surface area coverage than that radiator. Im hoping that it has extremely high fin density but it looks like Asetek's stock regular 120mm radiator. Yes this design dumps heat outside the case unlike an axial cooler but I'm still sceptical of 500W of heat being effectively dissipated by such a small radiator.
Gumbie
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I've got a strange problem I'm looking for advice on. I'm currently running gigabyte Windforce 770s in sli on a Asus Maximus V. Asus recommends the first red slot and the 2nd black slot so the cards don't use the PLX chip and run native. The problem is with the 2b black slot. If I put the card in and use the thumb screws to secure it....it's like the torque of the thumbscrews barely pulls the card up out of the slot just enough to make it not see the hardware. Looking at it with the screws in you would never know it wasn't in good. I just have to boot up and check the bios to see if it's seeing it. On the other hand if I leave the screws out it sees it perfectly but I really don't like leaving that heavy ass card just hanging there.
Meanwhile if I move to a different slot it works great but it using the PLX chip which makes me super paranoid about micro studdering. I think the problem is some how tied to the weight of the card because it's got that giant heatsink and 3 fans. Any ideas?
Meanwhile if I move to a different slot it works great but it using the PLX chip which makes me super paranoid about micro studdering. I think the problem is some how tied to the weight of the card because it's got that giant heatsink and 3 fans. Any ideas?
There should be a white plastic latch at the end of the PCIe slot to prevent the card from lifting like that.
Well the VRM's seem to be cooled seperately, so for a card like this that should reduce the load on the closed loop quite a bit.
If this is an adequate amount of cooling then depends on the temperature difference that you want to reach. Even a small radiator can dissipate the ~300W the cores+memory generate fine if you allow for high temperatures. And since the 290 can handle 90+ degree core temps well enough, I think that's what they're aiming for.
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