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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine

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Yup having OSX is a godsend since I do most my work on it. I didn't intend to build a hackintosh when I first made my PC (though this thread :p) but it ended up working out since they recommended all the same parts.

I didn't really have any issues with the kexts as everything was mostly supported through Multibeast. Only in the beginning when I really didn't know what I was doing, I went through some kernel panics but all is good now.
 
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mkenyon

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SUPER AWESOME NEWS THAT ITX PEOPLE SHOULD CARE ABOUT

NCASE M1 Pre-orders are up!

http://www.ncases.com/v2/m1.php

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Stubo

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NeOak said:
Would using the H100i leave space for the Accelero's radiator in the rear? I thinks its 120mm too.
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A quick Google makes it look like it would be very tight:
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If you're really set on using the Accelero hybrid then maybe it would be best to get a solid air cooler for your cpu. They can be very quiet with excellent cooling ability if you pick a good one!

Also, a case like the R4 should really help with the sound output from your whole build in general.

Edit: Or maybe use the Accelero hybrid as an intake on the upper front intake above the drive cages? This is probably more suited for an airflow oriented case than a silent one though.

Edit 2: Found this video!


anchorman128 said:
Ya that's why I said I'll give it a pass since it's an extreme CPU. Also since the 3930K is a 6 core I should have realized that was a 6 core extreme part haha my bad. Regardless, doesn't make the game any less of a shoddy port.
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Haha, well it's hard to disagree with that. It's nice to see a game really pushing the top graphics cards but it appears to be happening for the wrong reasons.
 
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Stubo

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Or sell the 7970 and buy a shiny new card with a nice quiet cooler? Watercooling for GPUs is still pretty expensive.

Thought I'd mention the NZXT G10 as an alternative to the Accelero Hybrid. Just to make your decision even more difficult because I'm nice like that :)

Also because I think it's a great idea!
 
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mkenyon said:
Why not just go full water at that point?
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I'm thinking about it this point.

Stubo said:
Or sell the 7970 and buy a shiny new card with a nice quiet cooler? Watercooling for GPUs is still pretty expensive.

Thought I'd mention the NZXT G10 as an alternative to the Accelero Hybrid. Just to make your decision even more difficult because I'm nice like that :)

Also because I think it's a great idea!
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I got the 7970 GE for free. It was a gift from a fellow gaffer.

Edit: Does that work with the 7970? I'll go full water if that's the case then o.o
 
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phazedplasma

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So my 560ti has seen better days. How do I future proof myself for the next few years video card wise?

I'd like to stick with nvidia, not looking to spend over 500
 
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Stubo

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The highest spec nvidia card under $500 is probably this one.

If you can wait a little it could be worth holding out for news of the 880, especially since you talk of the elusive 'future proofing'!

Edit: This and this are also good options!
 
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mkenyon

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phazedplasma said:
So my 560ti has seen better days. How do I future proof myself for the next few years video card wise?

I'd like to stick with nvidia, not looking to spend over 500
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780. Gigabyte GHz edition is a good one right around that price, and should remain relevant for a number of years. But, if there's one on sale for $400-450, buy that one instead.
TheCloser said:
Future proofing at ANY budget is not possible.
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No such thing as future proofing.
 
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Hazaro

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3x Titan Z would probably do it.
NeOak said:
So I'm interested in replacing my i5-2400 with an i7-2600K.

I got a MSI Z77-G41A so I think can get 4.5Ghz easily. However, since I'm buying the CPU used from the B/S/T, I need a good case and preferably a water cooling kit. The My 7970 GE is loud enough lol.

Recommendations for case and a good closed loop cooler?


Edit: Preferably a case where I can add that radiator for the CPU and a Accelero Hybrid for my 7970.
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Air for CPU (212) and a G1 Kraken for 7970 B)
GT Vespene said:
So the front page still says to wait to build because new boards are coming soon. I'm wanna put together a $1200 machine. Should I wait? How long would I be waiting for?
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End of next week for Computex news to settle down.
 
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Chance Hale

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What's the best EVGA 780 Ti model? Are the crazy fan ones worth the difference? Needs to be EVGA in case I want to upgrade to the 6GB model when it comes out. Would wait but I have the money now and it'll be spent elsewhere otherwise :p

Or would there be 800 news next week? If the cards are late 2014/early 2015 then I really don't want to wait. Would just rather upgrade now when my 670 is worth something, making it more like a 500 dollar card.
 
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mkenyon

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ricochetguro said:
What's the best EVGA 780 Ti model? Are the crazy fan ones worth the difference? Needs to be EVGA in case I want to upgrade to the 6GB model when it comes out. Would wait but I have the money now and it'll be spent elsewhere otherwise :p

Or would there be 800 news next week? If the cards are late 2014/early 2015 then I really don't want to wait. Would just rather upgrade now when my 670 is worth something, making it more like a 500 dollar card.
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Smokey says Jacob from EVGA said things changed and the 6GB 780 Ti isn't coming out. That being the case, the EVGA ACX, ASUS DCII, MSI, and Gigabyte are all good. I'd personally spring for the Gigabyte GHz Edition.
 
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Chance Hale

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mkenyon said:
Smokey says Jacob from EVGA said things changed and the 6GB 780 Ti isn't coming out. That being the case, the EVGA ACX, ASUS DCII, MSI, and Gigabyte are all good. I'd personally spring for the Gigabyte GHz Edition.
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Ah ok, that does change things. Have just always had EVGA cards as well. Is the Gigabyte version that much stronger?
 
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ricochetguro said:
Or would there be 800 news next week? If the cards are late 2014/early 2015 then I really don't want to wait. Would just rather upgrade now when my 670 is worth something, making it more like a 500 dollar card.
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There could be 800 series news next week. If there isn't or Nvidia says the cards won't be available until late Q3/Q4 2014, I'd just go with whatever 780 Ti recommendation you get.
 
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The Llama said:
Don't know what Mavericks changed, but I remember when I had a hackintosh the hardest part was the graphics drivers. Besides that, it wasn't too hard.
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It's still pretty tricky, but as long as you have anything Nvidia or one of the AMD cards that are currently in a Mac it's pretty easy.
 
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Chance Hale

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So many models! Don't need to stay with EVGA, just don't think I've built a computer that didn't have one of their cards in them.

Really hate how much of newegg makes you put stuff in a cart to see the price >_>

Is this one any good?

Just want to be sure before I blow 650-700 dollars :p At least newegg/ncixus don't charge tax yet! Is that gigabyte you linked the ghz version? Differences between GPU models of the same type aren't something I keep on top of, so I really appreciate it!
 
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Lagaff

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ricochetguro said:
What's the best EVGA 780 Ti model? Are the crazy fan ones worth the difference? Needs to be EVGA in case I want to upgrade to the 6GB model when it comes out. Would wait but I have the money now and it'll be spent elsewhere otherwise :p

Or would there be 800 news next week? If the cards are late 2014/early 2015 then I really don't want to wait. Would just rather upgrade now when my 670 is worth something, making it more like a 500 dollar card.
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I would stay with Evga they have the best customer service for video card, I would suggest you the 780 ti classified, I just got it it's a fantastic card.


http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=92850&vpn=03G-P4-2888-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1226 might be a little more than what you want to spend
 
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Nemesis121

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I am guessing i can ask here..
My PC has BSOD twice in the past week error report states it's being caused by the AMD Gaming Evolved App is there anyway to not install this pile of shit app...




Edit Never mind got it stupid ass AMD causing me headache when i should be gaming..
 
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Google

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Guys, it's been over a year since my last major upgrade to my PC (which was to add some better cooling.

I'm running
2500k
8GB RAM
7950

What can I do to this rig that will give me some decent gains without having me drop $800?
 
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Objectively Bad Opinion

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NeOak said:
Technically not a "GE". It's one of the launch 7970s that ran at 1Ghz for core. XFX made that one, but I apparently got an unicorn version with the reference cooler.
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Explains why you'd want to replace it. I saw a thread on Anandtech recently related to this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2384941

This guy used a G10 bracket combined with the reference heatspreader for VRM cooling with good results: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36399255&postcount=7

If this applies to the 7970 reference heatsink (which I think is the same) all you have to do is cut a bit of plastic off the heatspreader near the power inputs, and you won't have to bother with aftermarket sinks for the VRM, or gluing sinks onto the vram.
 
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mkenyon

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NeOak said:
Technically not a "GE". It's one of the launch 7970s that ran at 1Ghz for core. XFX made that one, but I apparently got an unicorn version with the reference cooler.
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There's a ton of options for full block coolers for that one.

Something like either one of these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ng_Kit_EK-KIT_L360.html?tl=g30c321s1367#blank

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ded_and_Free_Dead-Water_.html?tl=g30c321s1310

Then just add a full block of your choice for the 7970. Done deal :p
 
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Hazaro

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I'll let you know how my G10 works :p
Google said:
Guys, it's been over a year since my last major upgrade to my PC (which was to add some better cooling.

I'm running
2500k
8GB RAM
7950

What can I do to this rig that will give me some decent gains without having me drop $800?
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Overclock CPU
Upgrade GPU
 
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Mineshaft_Gap

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I got my Asus GTX 780 in the mail today. I've been playing with it a bit and I'm surprised so far.

I owned an EVGA GTX 780 ACX SC prior to this but returned it after deciding to buy something online to save a bit of money. This card was a $487 and the EVGA was like $560 after tax.

While I think the EVGA card looks nicer that's about the only thing I can count in its favor. Granted, it's clocked faster from the factory (hence: superclocked) but I was only able to get a stable GPU OC of around +40Mhz above stock. I'm sitting pretty at roughly +222Mhz on the Asus and I feel like it's much quieter.

This ok?

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I also must say that the Asus packaging is FAR superior to EVGA's. Not that it matters really but I gotta give kudos. You wouldn't think you're buying a $500 item when you open the EVGA product. Asus also came with an SLI bridge which I thought was a nice touch, EVGA card did not.

Sorry but I want to get some input on this. :3
 
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Google

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Hazaro said:
I'll let you know how my G10 works :p
Overclock CPU
Upgrade GPU
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I do overclock both my CPU and GPU.

What do I upgrade my GPU to because anything that will provide 15-20% upgrade (from shitty articles I've read) start at $500.

Or am I totally fucking wrong?
 
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Hazaro

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Google said:
I do overclock both my CPU and GPU.

What do I upgrade my GPU to because anything that will provide 15-20% upgrade (from shitty articles I've read) start at $500.

Or am I totally fucking wrong?
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You can get a 290 or 290X for cheap.
Other than that, yeah. You still have great hardware.
 
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LilJoka

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Mineshaft_Gap said:
I got my Asus GTX 780 in the mail today. I've been playing with it a bit and I'm surprised so far.

I owned an EVGA GTX 780 ACX SC prior to this but returned it after deciding to buy something online to save a bit of money. This card was a $487 and the EVGA was like $560 after tax.

While I think the EVGA card looks nicer that's about the only thing I can count in its favor. Granted, it's clocked faster from the factory (hence: superclocked) but I was only able to get a stable GPU OC of around +40Mhz above stock. I'm sitting pretty at roughly +222Mhz on the Asus and I feel like it's much quieter.

This ok?



I also must say that the Asus packaging is FAR superior to EVGA's. Not that it matters really but I gotta give kudos. You wouldn't think you're buying a $500 item when you open the EVGA product. Asus also came with an SLI bridge which I thought was a nice touch, EVGA card did not.

Sorry but I want to get some input on this. :3
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Not bad, i got 64.6fps score: 1628 @ 1231 core 3584 memory 1.21v. I run stock volts +200/+200 daily. Think thats 1100 core 3200 memory. Modded bios to, gets rid of the power cap.
 
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Mineshaft_Gap

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LilJoka said:
Not bad, i got 64.6fps score: 1628 @ 1231 core 3584 memory 1.21v. I run stock volts +200/+200 daily. Think thats 1100 core 3200 memory. Modded bios to, gets rid of the power cap.
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With a GTX 780? Hot damn. What model are you running? I dropped the voltages back down to default and Heaven 4.0 ran perfect at 200/200 in EVGA Precision X. I guess I had the voltages needlessly raised.

Any suggestions on what I might try to take it as far as you?
 
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Pachimari

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Just a little update on my sound problem.

I tried changing some settings in Plex. from S-240 (Realtek) to TX-??? (Nvidia High Definition Audio) and that helped, so now there's sound again. :)

Now my only problem as for the TV is, that the 1080p resolution doesn't scale to fit the screen. What can I do about it? There's no sliders in Right Click > Screen Resolution.

I'm on Windows 7 64-bit.
 
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dhlt25

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any recommendation for a stopgap GPU? My 6950 2GB just crapped out on me and I don't want to buy a $400 GPU now. What is a current card with comparable power to a 6950?
 
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maneil99

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LilJoka said:
Not bad, i got 64.6fps score: 1628 @ 1231 core 3584 memory 1.21v. I run stock volts +200/+200 daily. Think thats 1100 core 3200 memory. Modded bios to, gets rid of the power cap.
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1231 isn't a possibility on a 780. Only goes by my increments of 13mhz. Alotta people don't get this and it saves alot of time. You are either at 1241 or 1228
 
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