phxxBullet
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Sure, it's a good PSU. Won't get any problems with your hardware, it'll easily power everything.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Sure, it's a good PSU. Won't get any problems with your hardware, it'll easily power everything.
I just hope I won't get one of those that are dead on arrival or worse.
Austria. Sadly the price is quite high here, over 90.
Are you able to buy from places like Amazon.de and other German sites, or is it easiest to stick to Austrian ones? Just wondering so I could look online for you to see what else you could get.
I can, the cheapest are in the 90s range
Whole EU is 85 upwards which is moot with delivery costs
Armoured Titan
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I'm potentially looking at a new SSD and was wondering what the differences between the 840 Pro and 840 Evo are?
On Amazon, the 840 Evo 250GB can be had for £90 and the Pro counterpart about £140. What separates the two?
On Amazon, the 840 Evo 250GB can be had for £90 and the Pro counterpart about £140. What separates the two?
In most scenarios? 50 quid.
The day to day differences are minimal. Only get the a Pro if you need it for pro work.
I'd just grab the M500 at £78. You'll not notice the speed difference between it and the 840 EVO. The Samsung is better don't get me wrong but I don't see the need to pay more over the Crucial.
How does this compare price wise after postage? http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-XFX-XTR-Series-Modular-80--Gold_962289.html
It's the exact same unit as the Seasonic G550, just a different badge on the outside and the fact it has hybrid fan mode. Oh and they made it fully modular too. So a few tweaks for the better.
Armoured Titan
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I did have a look at the Crucial however the write speed of only 250MB/s seems slow compared to the 520MB/s of the Evo.
Woah, can it really be safely assumed that the XFX one works exactly the same as the G-550? Aside from some minor efficiency loss through extra modularity, I mean.
phxxBullet
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There are plenty PSUs below the 80 mark, not even inlcuding those without cable management.
http://www.alternate.at/Hardware/Ne...t=PRICE&lk=8622&tk=7&navId=1218#listingResult
Yes. I played Mario Kart 8, WoW, BF4 on pc and ps4, cod ghosts, mlb the show 14 ps4 and some old 360 games. Great monitors, I'm just trying to decrease my amount of stuff on my desk. One big monitor is what I really want. the Crossovers I had weren't overclockable, but were basically Apple's Thunderbolt Displays in a different case.
Yes. All XFX units are rebranded Seasonic's. This one is a G series rebrand. XFX has two SKUs of it, the XTR line and the TS line. TS is fully wired and then this XTR one is fully modular. From [H]'s review if you want something more than just my word to go on:
It's all relative I guess. Against the 840 Evo it's slower no question, next to an HDD it is still blazing fast. Your call, you'll not go wrong with either and the Samsung is objectively better if you take price out.
Can someone link me a good cheap motherboard that would work with this CPU?
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
How cheap is cheap? What size board? The D3H is a good ATX board http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z87x-d3h-atx-lga1150-z87-bd-84040-1016.htm?affiliateid=7474144
You can go cheaper again with this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...tionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-na-_-na-_-na
phxxBullet
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Interesting. I'm curious as to what other PSU/HDD/FAN brands use the same internals and just throw some different sticker on it.
Sorry, ATX is the size.
Damn, the cheapest shops put it near or above the G-550 in terms of price if I include shipping. Can't beat Amazon's conditions there, and they don't have it
Oh well I'll have to go with the G-550 then, it will work out
In the PSU world you'll find lots of units sharing platforms from the likes of CWT, Seasonic and Super Flower.
For example these are both practically the same unit
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-xfx-core-edition-p1-550s-xxb9-80-plus-bronze-1x135mm-fan-atx-psu
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/520w-seasonic-bronze-s12ii-520-80-plus-bronze-1x120mm-fan-atx-v23-psu
as are these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371059
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095
and these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...29&cm_re=xfx_750w_gold-_-17-207-029-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...87&cm_re=seasonic_x750-_-17-151-087-_-Product
Those are just some off the top of my head that I know all use the same platform.
Some OEMs will make tweaks, like XFX has done with the XTR where they've added a better fan which can do hybrid mode (and a quieter bearing on it too) and made it fully modular relative to the G series unit it's based on.
You'll not go far wrong with it.
Then one of those two is a solid choice. Z97 will support the next wave of CPUs, Z87 will only take what's out now.
SHADES
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I have the Crucial M500 after being recommended it by fellow gaffers, very happy with it indeed. You get what you pay for I guess in terms of the Evo though personally I wanted to save on that area of my build but the crucial is no slouch.
that asus monitor is apparently impossible to find anywhere but ebay. every site points you to the inferior 27inch 1440p monitor. any idea where i could purchase it? LinusTechTips seems to love it, and I think I'm sold on it.
It's not out yet.
ahhh makes sense. linus has links to amazon and ncix. i just assumed it was sold out. any idea of the release date?
Thanks for your advice, anyway! If only I had known about the XFX XTR earlier, I would have paid only 7 more for a much better PSU.
hi
i just format my laptop to install windows 7 pro
my laptop is msi ge60
i have 2 slot , one is normal SATA slot , and the other is M-Sata SSD
when i wad to format , i removed the HDD and kept the SSD
and finished installing windows 7
this how it look without the HDD
seem normal...right ?
so , i attached the HDD to usb converter and formatted under windows
so , i turned off my laptop , installed the HDD in the right place and this happen
???
how this happen ?
why it become disk 0 ?
i formatted again with and without the HDD installed , same thing
is that gonna make some problem in the future ?
i just format my laptop to install windows 7 pro
my laptop is msi ge60
i have 2 slot , one is normal SATA slot , and the other is M-Sata SSD
before the format , the mSata SSD was disk 0 and the HDD was Disk 1 ( i think )
when i wad to format , i removed the HDD and kept the SSD
and finished installing windows 7
this how it look without the HDD
seem normal...right ?
so , i attached the HDD to usb converter and formatted under windows
everything is ok right now
so , i turned off my laptop , installed the HDD in the right place and this happen
???
how this happen ?
why it become disk 0 ?
i formatted again with and without the HDD installed , same thing
is that gonna make some problem in the future ?
so,there is no way to change the disk number ?
maybe i am wrong , but i remember before i format , my SSD was disk 0
Sword Of Doom
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Have a question regarding SSD's as well. Is overprovisioning absolutely necessary? And if so how many %? Samsung magician recommends 10% but that's a lot of disc space.
I remember seeing early June somewhere.
Celcius
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Nvidia's 334.89 drivers are rock solid for me, but when using the 337.50 or 337.88 drivers, if I'm browsing Firefox then my mouse will randomly start lagging and a few seconds later my machine will freeze (games run fine though). I guess they still have a few kinks to work out with the new enhanced drivers...
I've been having issues similar to this as well. Going to roll back and see if it fixes it.
Just to make sure before I purchase, I'd like other people's thoughts. Not that I don't trust mkenyon, but its good to have opinions before I make this purchase and build my first computer. My budget is between 1-1.2k Canadian and I'd like to not upgrade for 4-5 years.
The other question I have is reducing the size of the SSD and getting a larger HD with a smaller SSD.
On top of that, Windows 8 or Windows 7?
I doubt any graphics card below 400$ will still play modern games satisfyingly in 4-5 years. Depending on your personal game preferences, that might not matter at all, but don't expect to max out multiplat titles at 1080p several years down the line. We're at the beginning of a new console gen.
Sectorseven
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What's the cheapest way to get six monitors running off one desktop? Not for gaming purposes.
D'oh -- saw this too late, he's already placed the order for the i5. Thanks, though, I may be building a basic Linux crash box for myself here soon and I'll keep this one in mind as an i3 is all I will really need for that.
appaws
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Looks good to me.
Yeah, I'd say forget about 4-5 years even if you were to spend twice as much. "Futureproofing" is a chimera that a lot of people talk about all the time....but for gamers I would say it's a fool's errand.
I would not go any smaller than that for the SSD, and if you are building now I would go with Windows 8.1, key from Reddit softwareswap.
Thank you for the input.
I guess the feeling I have is - Im spending 1200 (I'll get a 360 controller, keyboard, mouse, windows) and by the time Im done spending, it"ll be around there including tax I assume. The issue is I don't mind not playing things on max settings but it should be playable and up to par with a ps4/xbox one in 5 years and that I don't want to keep having to drop $300 to upgrade me pc every 3 years just to play AAA games as this will primarily be used for gaming and not much else (since I own a laptop which I much prefer using for the everyday stuff).
Thoughts, ideas?
maneil99
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Where did you get 337.89?
Celcius
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The Shadow
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Alright. So I posted my specs in this thread before asking for advice but that was ages ago and the post is buried. I wasn't able to build at the time because I was in the process of buying a house, moving, and then my wife had a baby, so you could say I was distracted and my priorities were elsewhere.
Anyway...
My Current Specs:
CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 Ghz
RAM - 2x2GB DDR2 800
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
GPU - Radeon HD 4870 512MB
PSU - Antec Earthwatts 380W PSU (Maybe 500?)
Case - Antec Performance One P180B Case
HDD - SanDisk Extreme 120GB SATA III SSD
Budget: ~$1000, US - An important note is that although I have about $1000+ to spend, doesn't mean I want to spend that "just because" if I can get a cheaper part that will perform the same or just slightly worse than something that's hundreds more, I'd rather do that.
Main Use: Mostly internet browsing, although I do go through gaming "binges" where I'll play quite a few games in a short amount of time. I also do emulation here and there, although it's usually classic arcades and consoles. I have a PS2, Wii, etc, hooked up to a dedicated tube TV.
Monitor Resolution: Largely at 1080P although I may upgrade to a higher res monitor in the future. Currently, I have no desire to.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Probably my SSD and secondary HDD that I have in the case. I also have a Creative Labs X-Fi in there that will be moved to the new case. I may buy a new PSU but not sure. It's >380W since I had to return it at some point under warranty and I was "gifted" a larger watt replacement. I just can't remember what the higher wattage is.
When will you build?: Soon. No deadline.
Will you be overclocking?: No, unless it's a stupid easy one like the Q6600 is. I will not be overclocking if it means hours upon hours of testing to squeak out a few Mhz.
Anyway...
My Current Specs:
CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 Ghz
RAM - 2x2GB DDR2 800
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
GPU - Radeon HD 4870 512MB
PSU - Antec Earthwatts 380W PSU (Maybe 500?)
Case - Antec Performance One P180B Case
HDD - SanDisk Extreme 120GB SATA III SSD
Budget: ~$1000, US - An important note is that although I have about $1000+ to spend, doesn't mean I want to spend that "just because" if I can get a cheaper part that will perform the same or just slightly worse than something that's hundreds more, I'd rather do that.
Main Use: Mostly internet browsing, although I do go through gaming "binges" where I'll play quite a few games in a short amount of time. I also do emulation here and there, although it's usually classic arcades and consoles. I have a PS2, Wii, etc, hooked up to a dedicated tube TV.
Monitor Resolution: Largely at 1080P although I may upgrade to a higher res monitor in the future. Currently, I have no desire to.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Probably my SSD and secondary HDD that I have in the case. I also have a Creative Labs X-Fi in there that will be moved to the new case. I may buy a new PSU but not sure. It's >380W since I had to return it at some point under warranty and I was "gifted" a larger watt replacement. I just can't remember what the higher wattage is.
When will you build?: Soon. No deadline.
Will you be overclocking?: No, unless it's a stupid easy one like the Q6600 is. I will not be overclocking if it means hours upon hours of testing to squeak out a few Mhz.
I finally decided on a SFF case to move my mATX setup from my CM Storm Scout. Chose the Silverstone SG09 as it fit my needs of a large size reduction to make the system more portable and also facilitates all my current PC components. I like the Node 304, but I didn't feel it justified the cost of a new mITX mobo and having to deal with the PSU/GPU conflicts that might happen due to the case's configuration.
For those with SFF cases and take them with them places, do you just put it your back seat of do you use a duffle bag or large backpack or something? Do they make anything for carrying PC's besides the Silverstone Sugo Pack or the custom NCASE M1 carrying bag that's sold on etsy.
For those with SFF cases and take them with them places, do you just put it your back seat of do you use a duffle bag or large backpack or something? Do they make anything for carrying PC's besides the Silverstone Sugo Pack or the custom NCASE M1 carrying bag that's sold on etsy.
Chance Hale
Member
Tempted to get one of those Asus 4K monitors as using my TV can get a bit frustrating at times for general browsing/color reproduction. There just seems to be a ton of new tech in the monitor market at the moment so I'm not sure whether to wait a year or so or just jump on something now.
Something like the below would do you just fine for your use without going overboard for just occasional binge gaming:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($228.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $719.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-01 02:49 EDT-0400)
j0hnny_385
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Strange error message since I don't use Thunderbolt nor do I have the Thunderbolt addon card for the MBO installed. WTF?
I disabled everything I don't use (Bluetooth, onboard Wi-Fi, that non-Intel SATA controller, etc.).
This error came up after I updated the BIOS from 1205 -> 1802.
Any thoughts on what this could be?
Rig:
Asus Z87-Pro v1802 BIOS
Intel Core i5-4670K
Noctua NH-D14
2x4GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3, 1600MHz
XFX Radeon 7850 2GB Black Edition
Corsair HX520, 520W PSU
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD, MZ-7PD256BW
Western Digital WD10EZEX, 1TB SATA-III
ASUS DRW-24F1ST/BLK/B/AS
Dell U2412M, 24 LED 1920x1200
Microsoft Ergo 4000 Natural Keyboard
Razer DeathAdder 2013 mouse
Antec P183
Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
phxxBullet
Banned
Just a quick googlin'
Strange error message since I don't use Thunderbolt nor do I have the Thunderbolt addon card for the MBO installed. WTF?
I disabled everything I don't use (Bluetooth, onboard Wi-Fi, that non-Intel SATA controller, etc.).
This error came up after I updated the BIOS from 1205 -> 1802.
Any thoughts on what this could be?
Rig:
Asus Z87-Pro v1802 BIOS
Intel Core i5-4670K
Noctua NH-D14
2x4GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3, 1600MHz
XFX Radeon 7850 2GB Black Edition
Corsair HX520, 520W PSU
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD, MZ-7PD256BW
Western Digital WD10EZEX, 1TB SATA-III
ASUS DRW-24F1ST/BLK/B/AS
Dell U2412M, 24” LED 1920x1200
Microsoft Ergo 4000 Natural Keyboard
Razer DeathAdder 2013 mouse
Antec P183
Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2027152/asus-z87-pro-thunderbolt-error-weird-behaviour.html
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/s/z87+pro+boot+issue+thunderbolt+related/
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2011144/problem-graphics-card-work.html
Aaah, interesting. Should keep that in mind when hunting for a new PSU.
j0hnny_385
Member
Checked all of them, that's why I asked here.
Nothing is applicable here since this problem started after the BIOS update, not before.
Everything was working fine before (still is, if you disregard that message), so I don't really now what's going on here.
Something with the BIOS for sure. Maybe they'll fix it in the next update.
Oh well...
Nothing is applicable here since this problem started after the BIOS update, not before.
Everything was working fine before (still is, if you disregard that message), so I don't really now what's going on here.
Something with the BIOS for sure. Maybe they'll fix it in the next update.
Oh well...
phxxBullet
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Checked all of them, that's why I asked here.
Nothing is applicable here since this problem started after the BIOS update, not before.
Everything was working fine before (still is, if you disregard that message), so I don't really now what's going on here.
Something with the BIOS for sure. Maybe they'll fix it in the next update.
Oh well...
Well, did you try resetting the BIOS to default as mentioned in those posts, and then updating it again?
Hey guys I remembered that I have a windows 8.1 pro N key from reddit that I ended up not using because I went with windows 7 in the end. Does anybody want to buy it for 10$? I have a link to the ISO as well
Google says
"Yes, the C920-C is just like the C920, but is specifically made for business, since you won't need to install any extra software in order to use it."
Google says
"Yes, the C920-C is just like the C920, but is specifically made for business, since you won't need to install any extra software in order to use it."
Looking at the specs, I'm pretty sure the only difference is that the "C" model is "Certified for Cisco Jabber"...whatever that means.
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