And like clockwork, the minute news about Sony or its games goes a little "off message", the positive "leaks and rumors" appear
Never has been the case for Sony. They always had many first party and console exclusive releases every year (12 1st party games announced for this year + 3rd party exclusives), including goty winners or candidates almost every year.
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It’s difficult to go back now, I think it’s more likely that there will be a Playstation launcher on PC. Within 3 years. With day 1 launcher/ecosystem exclusives and 9-12 months delays on Steam, with saves and licenses working on both console and PC.
And like clockwork, the minute news about Sony or its games goes a little "off message", the positive "leaks and rumors" appear
Its still sold in another ecosystem. It's steam with 3p drm.
You could be right. Sounds plausible.
Sony has become the Xbox meme.
its always the next year
I see this happening, even with crossbuy or a big discount if you had the game on the other platform.
No, Sony is generating more revenue and profit than ever, breaking several all time records in many metrics almost every quarter. And in 3 of the 4 recent years they broke their record of the fastest selling 1st party game/console exclusive ever.
They seem to be content with their PC strategy, so my guess is that their plan is working for them so far.Yes did they? When the lost 30% to steam and all of those 3p revenue of games and mtx?
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Yes, they are happy with theire PC strategy. This quarter more than doubled the revenue of 1st party games outside PS versus the same quarter of the previous year. Their PC sales must be growing every year a lot, and the ports of old games are very profitable. Even the worse selling ones released until now must be profitable.
Their long term results are very promising because they are growing and breaking records in basically all fronts, including existing and new ones:Their current leadership have a nice short term strategy. Will be nice when hulst has to explain all of his and friends fuckups to investors in a few years
Yes, they only made plans up until the end of 2025.Their current leadership have a nice short term strategy. Will be nice when hulst has to explain all of his and friends fuckups to investors in a few years
dude you are acting like im the only one. read the room. look around gaf. the vast majority think this is the worst fucking generation ever. no one is happy. you have people posting lists of sony exclusives this year like this is the best year ever and fans are still upset. why is that? if sony was really killing it this gen, people would not be so down on it.
Since these insiders know nothing, probably we gonna have a blog post for ps5 pro if they will release it.
Yeah I think it would work, especially if there was a bonus if their game licenses would transfer so they would already have a decent library of games there.
Wtf does what I said have to do about profits?
Nah, I think they must continue the "minimum around 2 years or more after the original release for the SP games that get ported to PC" to keep it healthy. With some understandable exception for non-Sony IPs like MLB or Lego.
You said "Sony has become the Xbox meme" as if they were a failure due to lack of games and releasing their stuff on PC. Record revenue, profits and growing market share prove they are having a very different result than MS: a very positive one, because their strategy is pretty different.
Bullshit. Hermen and Nishino continue doing basically the same job they did for many years before they became co-CEOs. Totoki and there rest of leadership (SVPs) continue being the same than many years ago.
*One of the strongest years this generation.
The late ports sell a puny amount compared to how they sell on console so I don’t think it works. It’s old games. They’re wasting true exclusivity for pocket money. Look at Helldivers 2 selling more on PC than console. Huge success. Then look at sales numbers out there on other games, bigger games, the numbers are way too low for the quality of the titles.
Only a retarded would expect that full priced port of a game originally released 10, 6 or even 2 years ago would sell the same in PC at launch than it did in console. Specially on PC many people wait for discounts, so games keep selling during years.
Worst era of Sony ever, I still have nightmares over their 2012 lineup.
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How is this the golden age of ANYTHING? But hey, their output in these years would look a lot better if we include the externally developed games, but since you guys insist all the time that Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade aren't first-party, then that's how it is...
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Fake news.
Sony owns either game, just like Spider-Man, Aquanaut's Holiday: Hidden Memories, or the several Popolocrois games on PS1-PSP (which the development team has said several times they can't re-release without the permission of Sony). Or, you know, just like how Microsoft owns Sunset Overdrive, despite Sony owning the IP?Are the externally made game on ps3 owned by sony? If so that makes it a big difference to ronin and Stellar Blade
Sony owns either game, just like Spider-Man, Aquanaut's Holiday: Hidden Memories, or the several Popolocrois games on PS1-PSP (which the development team has said several times they can't re-release without the permission of Sony). Or, you know, just like how Microsoft owns Sunset Overdrive, despite Sony owning the IP?
That's their strategy though.
Starhawk was developed by Lightbox Interactive, Twisted Metal was developed by Eat Sleep Play, Journey was developed by Thatgamecompany, Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault was developed by Insomniac Games, and Infamous 2 was developed by Sucker Punch Productions (in the case of the latter two, before they were acquired by SCE); none of these count under the same metric this forum likes to shit SIE's 2024 lineup for.
No, that's not rephrasing it, you're just moving the goalposts. Insomniac could have very well released a Spider-Man sequel without Sony before they got acquired, that doesn't make the 2018 game less of a first-party.
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are fully owned by sony and ain't comparable to Stellar Blade and Ronin. You are moving the goalpost.
I think you are really overestimating what switch2 will be able to do ... but thats remains to be seen.
No, I'm not, because I already addressed that IP ownership has literally nothing to do with that.We can't say for sure anymore because we don't updated switch numbers just updates on all platforms but at one point it sold like half of world on one platform.
Let's compare it to bloodborne or demons souls. All those ips you just mentioned to
This is what Insomniac said regarding Spider-Man being on Xbox One back in the day:Sony owns either game, just like Spider-Man, Aquanaut's Holiday: Hidden Memories, or the several Popolocrois games on PS1-PSP (which the development team has said several times they can't re-release without the permission of Sony). Or, you know, just like how Microsoft owns Sunset Overdrive, despite Sony owning the IP?
Where exactly did I say that?
Sony has exactly ZERO single player games from their western OWNED first party prime studios launched/announced for this year and the next , wich are the 4th and 5th year of the console lifecicle, they have only Astrobot from japan studio to account for. So for me personaly is a mess of a gen and terrible effort from Sony in this front. Second/third party games from outsourced studios are fine to fill the holes but are not the main reason I own playstation, never were. Gaas and MP dosent appeal to me. So this gaas push by sony really fucked up things for my taste.
