hemo memo
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-“Did you lie in your resume?”I am going to roll with this idea and attach PhD to my work profile. I am sure all the actual engineering PhDs won’t mind. Masters is just as good!
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Is Concord headed to be Sony's biggest first party flop ever?
- Thread starter LakeOf9
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-“No. I identify as a nobel prize winner”
Criticism/self criticism. They go after people and complain to them either for just having certain traits, or self deprecate themselves, for having those arbitrary traits and not fully committing to the ideology. What they never criticize is the ideology itself that is controlling them. Another thing, left/right? That's a red herring, totalitarianism/anarchy is the true "spectrum" with various ideological details potentially there to keep things in moderate order or keep things under total control. From my educational experience, the USA was about "moderate, orderly individual freedom and the discipline to coexist with others who have different likes and dislikes." I am noticing that this year, more institutions are changing the "DEI" link on their websites from "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" to something else. I've seen "Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging" for example. I've seen "Diversity and Inclusion" on many others where the E (The Marxist E) used to be there but is no longer there. So I feel that over time more people have been seeing things get way to bizarre and are looking into and informing themselves about the ideology behind the things we've been seeing and are taking action in their own ways, which is encouraging. We're realizing that mindsets and worldviews are indoctrinated into people. Patterns of decision making and action come from those mindsets. We're realizing that products are starting to be offensive to our own values and are avoiding them. Some of us are providing the criticism of the ideologies themselves that the people trapped in them can't or won't because they're going after people for not following their ideology instead. I've seen college websites like Purdue's where they've committed to adding mandatory Civics coursework and fundamental civics exams as graduation requirements, so that students can at least get a chance to understand the ideology and theories of individual freedom that informed the structure and institutions of the USA and judge it fairly. My favorite though is this, from the Cannes Film Festival, which I think is in the spirit of creative industries: https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/...freedom-of-expression-equality-and-diversity/:
Diversity and Equality is my favorite of the "deMarxified" versions of DEI. When they first rolled out DEI a few years ago, that's what I thought it'd be and withheld judgement on it. It does not demand conformity of values in each and every product, but allows for equality of opportunity for each unique director to express themselves artistically or even politically as they choose. It considers publishing additional projects that showcase other points of view that may not have been showcased before. Heck, in the company I work for, they tried selling additional products with boldly African motifs and they all sold out very quickly! The "I" sounds benign at first, but that is a big source of the self censorship when "inclusion" means each product having to conform to every single like and dislike of every person. I have to concede, that each director of so many projects could legitimately want to promote Marxist values, for whatever reason. I've thought about the "old man yells at clouds" meme though, and have concluded personally that this is a totally different situation, what generation before needed a wholescale department to be added to institutions in order to force a Marxist value system on everybody else? Maybe this can be a teaching moment for experienced creators or executives at these companies to explain the values that allow coexistence of free expression like before. I want the coexist bumper sticker people back, not the glitter studded, pink hammer and sickle bumper sticker people haha (seriously, I saw a car with that bumper sticker but haven't seen the coexist one in a long time).
StereoVsn
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“I am not a doctor, but I played one on TV. I am sure I can do this surgery!”
Varteras
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If Concord flops it won't be because of one thing. It'll be a combination. It's $40 in a genre where the current heavy hitters are free to play. As of now, it has nothing gameplay-wise that sets it apart. Like a beefy PvE mode or some kind of PvP not present in its rivals.
Its character designs are boring at least, dogshit at most. No sexy women. No supercool characters. It is clearly heavily influenced by DEI practices, and this turns off a lot of people. This doesn't even touch the balance issues I saw in the game. Which will require them to acknowledge the balancing as an issue. They could very easily go tonedeaf to the feedback.
As a long time WoW player I'd warn against thinking that surely they'll make any corrections based on feedback.
Its character designs are boring at least, dogshit at most. No sexy women. No supercool characters. It is clearly heavily influenced by DEI practices, and this turns off a lot of people. This doesn't even touch the balance issues I saw in the game. Which will require them to acknowledge the balancing as an issue. They could very easily go tonedeaf to the feedback.
As a long time WoW player I'd warn against thinking that surely they'll make any corrections based on feedback.
Bernardougf
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No .. thats Jim Ryan.
GymWolf
Gold Member
To sell even poorlier?I remember that Starhawk sold extremely poorly. But Concord definitely has the potential.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
lol what kind of fucking wacko makes everyone call them “professor” and calls their meetings “learning with the professor”.
I’m a software engineer (not in the gaming industry) and I would get laughed out of my damn job if I interacted with my colleagues that way and demanded they use certain honorifics with me.
I’m a software engineer (not in the gaming industry) and I would get laughed out of my damn job if I interacted with my colleagues that way and demanded they use certain honorifics with me.
Plague Doctor
Member
If only 20% drop rates meant 20% drop rates.... fuck you, The First Descendant and your cockteasing filthy lying percentages. Nice titties though.
Moriarty1889
Member
It certainly appears to look that way. It’s even worse than Redfall if you could even fathom that. That’s pretty bad.
Spyxos
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Yep. 2 sold copies for Concord should be possible.
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Rocco Schiavone
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But Yoshida is telling us Socom won't come back and instead they give us this shit Overwatch RIP off.
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Angry_Megalodon
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But Yoshida is telling us Socom won't come back and instead they gives us this shit Overwatch RIP off.
If it were for Mr Shu, Sony would be rid of they/them.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics."I am going to roll with this idea and attach PhD to my work profile. I am sure all the actual engineering PhDs won’t mind. Masters is just as good!
MayauMiao
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Words are not needed to send a message as to what exactly went wrong with Concord.
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DrFigs
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I think they should've paid me to play it early. I could've warned them.
I think you are 100% right. the balance issues can be fixed. but the characters bein boring and/or ugly is just a lifelong problem for the game. Especially the women. I just don't understand the thinking behind it. A big draw of these games are fanart, cosplay, wanting to unlock new skins, etc. who would want to unlock skins for these ugly ass characters? who's going to cosplay or commission fanart of these things. there's just no real upside to having ugly characters. i don't understand.
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Fbh
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I remember that Starhawk sold extremely poorly. But Concord definitely has the potential.
I had forgotten this was Ps3 exclusive.
I actually liked the game, but they really screwed up by making it a followup to Warhawk instead of just a new thing
PonyStation4
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ReBurn
Gold Member
Loony toon who made up her own nickname.
At least people probably won't have to work with her much longer. Going to be kind of hard to keep that principal game designer job if this is the pinnacle of what she is able to produce.
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
I tried this game. It was fucking awful. The DEI character designs and ridiculous fucking pronouns turned me off basically instantly. Absolute pile of shite.
I get it. My tastes are no longer popular (well, they ARE, but people pretend that they aren't). But, here's what I like: hot bitches, massive guns, hulking dudes who look like they can beat the shit out of everything, and toxic masculinity as far as the eye can see. Give me a slutty girl with huge boobs in hot pants standing next to a bald space marine who thinks it's pathetic to cry and I'm a happy boy. This is the polar opposite of that, and as such, can get fucked.
I get it. My tastes are no longer popular (well, they ARE, but people pretend that they aren't). But, here's what I like: hot bitches, massive guns, hulking dudes who look like they can beat the shit out of everything, and toxic masculinity as far as the eye can see. Give me a slutty girl with huge boobs in hot pants standing next to a bald space marine who thinks it's pathetic to cry and I'm a happy boy. This is the polar opposite of that, and as such, can get fucked.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
LMAO this is such an “own goal” for Firewalk. You don’t need to make it soft porn but FFS at least make them attractive and cool.
This is what happens when you have a bunch of insane activists checking off their Diversity & Inclusion checklist instead of making characters that gamers (male AND female) actually want to play as.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Tbf Duches is actually one of the better and more attractive characters.
NoLootBoxDev
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Bumblebeetuna
Member
Not in a world where SOCOM 4 exists.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I hope it’s one of Sony’s biggest hits ever, just because it would be hilarious for everyone to be so wrong about it.
Of course, I won’t be playing that shite though lol
digital_ghost
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ViciousAgenda
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I must admit, I'd have a good laugh myself.
ViciousAgenda
Member
I wouldn't bet on that if I were you.
nial
Member
The game started development in 2018.
nial
Member
he's just shitposting
Pop
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Current words from players are rather positive
havoc00
Member
There Is No Spinning How Poorly Sony’s ‘Concord’ Open Beta Went On Steam
While initial Steam numbers did not look great for the open Concord Beta this weekend, the end result is even worse than I had anticipated. I expected at least some level of a surge from its initially low playercount as the beta got going and we hit the weekend. Sundays are generally when most games peak, after all. That did not happen, instead its playercount declined.
There are two main problems here:
The peak for a free open beta is way too low – The game peaked at 2,388 players on Thursday when it launched. That is a very, very low amount of players in the context of a new multiplayer release, and while I am certainly not expecting anywhere near a Helldivers 2 level of surprise success, this is very bad. It’s even worse when you remember that this is a free open beta and the final product has Concord priced at $40.
Interest in the Beta Declined From Day One – This may be the most concerning point, honestly. One of the positives that Concord has going for it is that gameplay can in fact feel pretty fun. But this chart indicates 1) there was very little word of mouth getting other players to try, and 2) those who were playing became disinterested quickly and did not stay around. From its Thursday launch, playercount declined every single day and what should have been a peak Sunday was its lowest day of them all, peaking at just 1,117 players.
www.forbes.com
While initial Steam numbers did not look great for the open Concord Beta this weekend, the end result is even worse than I had anticipated. I expected at least some level of a surge from its initially low playercount as the beta got going and we hit the weekend. Sundays are generally when most games peak, after all. That did not happen, instead its playercount declined.
There are two main problems here:
The peak for a free open beta is way too low – The game peaked at 2,388 players on Thursday when it launched. That is a very, very low amount of players in the context of a new multiplayer release, and while I am certainly not expecting anywhere near a Helldivers 2 level of surprise success, this is very bad. It’s even worse when you remember that this is a free open beta and the final product has Concord priced at $40.
Interest in the Beta Declined From Day One – This may be the most concerning point, honestly. One of the positives that Concord has going for it is that gameplay can in fact feel pretty fun. But this chart indicates 1) there was very little word of mouth getting other players to try, and 2) those who were playing became disinterested quickly and did not stay around. From its Thursday launch, playercount declined every single day and what should have been a peak Sunday was its lowest day of them all, peaking at just 1,117 players.
There Is No Spinning How Poorly Sony’s ‘Concord’ Open Beta Went On Steam
While initial Steam numbers did not look great for the open Concord Beta this weekend, the end result is even worse than anticipated.
www.forbes.com
ViciousAgenda
Member
I'm sure some people like it. I'd argue that sub is very heavily skewed.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Is it crazy that I can’t wait till people stop talking about it? I’ve got nothing against it. I just dislike the name. Some real dumb names for games lately.
Oddvintagechap
Member
I think there’s gonna be many threads about this game. This game can’t be a success or there will be meltdowns here.
Antwix
Member
I'd rather watch the meltdown and finger-pointing of the devs when it gets cancelled. However, I do hope it reaches season 1 so we can all laugh at their new paid character designs/skins.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Full article is out
www.smashjt.com
Inside Firewalk Studios: The Studio DESTROYED By Woke Ideology
How Firewalk Studios is about to burn down...
www.smashjt.com
P:axMagellanic
Member
Played about 4 games of the beta and had my fill. Only thing that was quality was the motion capture.
The actual gameplay is typical autogame for retards that passes for multiplayer these days. Aim assist so aggressive it practically played itself.
The actual gameplay is typical autogame for retards that passes for multiplayer these days. Aim assist so aggressive it practically played itself.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Full article is out
Inside Firewalk Studios: The Studio DESTROYED By Woke Ideology
How Firewalk Studios is about to burn down...
smh, some times a game doesn't work out.
Thats ok.
Won't waste any time or energy reading some article trying to argue "woke" as being some REAL reason why a game isn't doing well lol
The same people say this same stupid dumb shit about games that are literally successful and have no explanation behind that lol
edit. My god, what kind of loony site is that? lol Does this person have no life or are they just 100% devoted to this whole circus type thing?
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ChorizoPicozo
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i dunno if woke or not...but definitely sub-par. Is there a correlation?
Aion002
Gold Member
Biggest? Let me show you Draw to Death on PS3:
www.metacritic.com
From what I played on the Concord beta.... No way it's worse than that abomination.
Drawn to Death
Drawn To Death will be an arena shooter like you’ve never played before. Part of the reason for this is our unique gameplay. And part of the reason is that the game takes place inside the notebook of a very creative teenage kid; it’s a violent and bizarre landscape filled with all of the weird...
www.metacritic.com
From what I played on the Concord beta.... No way it's worse than that abomination.
rabbity-thing
Member
I know, right? Like, Silicon Knights exploded itself just fine without any "wokeness." Sometimes studios just mess up. Trying to shoehorn "woke" as the driving force behind so many failures is getting really old. At this point, I'm pretty sure it's just an engagement/money-making thing. Claim "wokeness." Get clicks. Repeat.
Full article is out
Inside Firewalk Studios: The Studio DESTROYED By Woke Ideology
How Firewalk Studios is about to burn down...
Lol holy shit...this is exactly why I'm almost totally discounting the current hate
the game is polished, fun, pretty much the best time I've had with a shooter in ages. Literally years. And I'm pretty convinced most hate is coming from butt hurt pc gamers who either have some allegiance to overwatch and co, or some ongoing hate against sony ( even though sony games are pretty much propping up their platform atm ) ,or people with some weird assumption all games should be free ...or something ( and in the next breath whining about studios closing) . I'll be pre ordering, I've played enough to know this will be successful, oh no there is a he/him thing on the character select.
LavitzSlambert
Member
Not looking good, but don't count it out just yet. All it takes is one wanna-be-big-deal streamer to get their following into it and go viral.