FunkMiller
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Bloodborne at a glorious 18fps on a three inch screen?
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What games is it going to play? Ps5? PS4? Only its own custom made games?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Will they partner with AT&T again ?
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Ok. How's that?
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Klosshufvud
Member
Probably time to stop give this Grubb fuck more attention.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
and be mind controlled by AT&T? no thanks
Aldric
Member
I don't know what anyone was expecting.
A "portable PS5" isn't physically possible which is immediately obvious when you compare the size of a PS5 with even a bulky high end handheld like the Deck. At best Sony could make a PS4 + level handheld to sell at a reasonable price and maintain the sleek form factor of the PSP and Vita but that'd automatically limit the kind of games it could run and I don't think Sony are interested or even have the capacity to develop ports for PS4 games or even downgraded PS5 games for a handheld. I don't think there's a mass market for this kind of library either.
Are we seriously supposed to believe Sony are going to dedicate significant resources to portable gaming when they can't even release exclusives for the PS5?
A "portable PS5" isn't physically possible which is immediately obvious when you compare the size of a PS5 with even a bulky high end handheld like the Deck. At best Sony could make a PS4 + level handheld to sell at a reasonable price and maintain the sleek form factor of the PSP and Vita but that'd automatically limit the kind of games it could run and I don't think Sony are interested or even have the capacity to develop ports for PS4 games or even downgraded PS5 games for a handheld. I don't think there's a mass market for this kind of library either.
Are we seriously supposed to believe Sony are going to dedicate significant resources to portable gaming when they can't even release exclusives for the PS5?
Knightime_X
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Cloud as in streaming only?
No internet no games, especially when data roaming on the road.
Decision made.
No internet no games, especially when data roaming on the road.
Decision made.
supernova8
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Internet plans are generally expensive and come with speed throttling after you hit a certain amount of data unless you pay through the fuuuuucking noise for an expensive plan (source: I live in Japan that's what it's like). That's for home internet, mind you. It's even worse for mobile plans and mobile wifi plans. They just suck ass and people only use them as last resort.
Trying to play games via the cloud (on the go, specifically) is just a no-go in Japan unless you're wadded with cash. Hell, the government only just recently (like a year ago ish) essentially forced the cartel of mobile operators to offer cheaper plans.
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If there is a nugget of truth to the rumor;
Then, maybe it could be a PS6 handheld, rendering at native 480p/540p using AI to upscale.
I think that's likely what Nintendo is working on, and seems like a no-brainer for Sony/Microsoft when they're on 2nm chips, in the next generation.
Then, maybe it could be a PS6 handheld, rendering at native 480p/540p using AI to upscale.
I think that's likely what Nintendo is working on, and seems like a no-brainer for Sony/Microsoft when they're on 2nm chips, in the next generation.
StereoVsn
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You don't have to port. They could do a custom APU like SteamDeck or upcoming Asus handheld. Basically it would be virtually native PS4 if they did it right.
Bonfires Down
Member
I could be interested in a cloud gaming handheld, but not one that can't also stream Game Pass and Steam locally so this is a no go for me.
However if they can get a nice large OLED screen in there along with good hardware quality at a decent price there might be an audience for it. The main competition is Logitech G cloud and it's rather expensive for what you get.
However if they can get a nice large OLED screen in there along with good hardware quality at a decent price there might be an audience for it. The main competition is Logitech G cloud and it's rather expensive for what you get.
ShadyAcshuns
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ShadyAcshuns
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
They are late to the party…
A Windows based Sony handheld like the AyaNeo with their custom launcher would likely be trounced by the Steam Deck UI/features and would have little to no exclusive title.
A custom OS based PlayStation handheld could have more of a chance if it had really really good local BC (no streaming only crap) with PS1/PS2/PS3 with enhancements and ran all PS4 software. If they had the money for a 3-5 nm SoC based on a custom Ryzen 4+ and RDNA3/4 generation GPU they could develop something able to receive PS5 ports but depending on how they design it that device could then become an albatross on PS5's neck (XSS to XSX more or less, maybe worse).
I have a very bad feeling about this…
A Windows based Sony handheld like the AyaNeo with their custom launcher would likely be trounced by the Steam Deck UI/features and would have little to no exclusive title.
A custom OS based PlayStation handheld could have more of a chance if it had really really good local BC (no streaming only crap) with PS1/PS2/PS3 with enhancements and ran all PS4 software. If they had the money for a 3-5 nm SoC based on a custom Ryzen 4+ and RDNA3/4 generation GPU they could develop something able to receive PS5 ports but depending on how they design it that device could then become an albatross on PS5's neck (XSS to XSX more or less, maybe worse).
I have a very bad feeling about this…
kurisu_1974
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HOW is Jeff Grubb a thing.
funkygunther
Banned
Just connecting a portable device to the Internet is going to be a barrier in itself. If you give the device its own sim card then that's an extra network expense for the customer. Otherwise you're tethering to your phone or locked down to only location with WiFi.
If its real its DOA.
If its real its DOA.
ZehDon
Member
A dedicated handheld device centered around technology that has proven both inconsistent and undesirable? Tech that can work on virtually any computing device in the world - including the smartphones virtually the entire target demographic would already have? Not a smart move, from my perspective.
Microsoft cancelled its streaming box for a reason - I imagine Sony would have done the same here.
Microsoft cancelled its streaming box for a reason - I imagine Sony would have done the same here.
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That reason according to Microsoft/Phil Spencer was the cost didn't enable them to hit the price point they wanted.
Sony could have a different price point in mind.
ZehDon
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Well, portable hardware always costs more. So, unless Sony are planning on pushing this thing out at USD$249, they'll hit the same wall as Microsoft - only faster, given the form factor.
The point was that the hurdle is more of a commercial one instead of a technical/user experience one. That hurdle is a self imposed one.
If true, and it does come out, I wouldnt expect it to be too far off the logitech g cloud price point. Obviously they may think that price is too high and not release it.
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DenchDeckard
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This sounds completely plausible and would be the kind of thing I can imagine sonys mobile devision working on.
They always come with this wacky shit.
They always come with this wacky shit.
Boss Mog
Member
Since Sony seems pretty committed to PC, it would make more sense for them to make a PC handheld while at the same time launching their own PlayStation PC store where you could use your current PS account to buy PC games, similar to Microsoft. There's no need for Sony to give Valve a cut of their PC releases.
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i personally dont mind this aslong as its got a good screen and emulation is possible for nintendo and ps1 collections i dont need a rtx gpu on a handheld really were not there yet
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I think they are biting off more than they can chew… I would need to see them more committed than in the past.
Woopah
Member
Not everything he hears is going to be accurate but I think it's pretty clear by now that he has contacts in the industry.
ZehDon
Member
Offering a cloud-only device at near-Steam Deck prices - which can do cloud gaming just as well - would be a disaster.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Well, they wanted 99$ right? If it is a streaming handheld, it might be close in price with G Cloud. Though Sony can sell for less (lol) due to 30% cut.
The main problem is that any handheld that is weaker that the current consoles will require developers to introduce additional game builds. And just like with Steam Deck it will require optimisations (and games don't have a flexible configuration options like PC games have). Also we need a breakthrough in the battery life. Let's see how Asus ROG fare.
Team Andromeda
Member
Cloud gaming isn't half as bad as so many here are making out. Though I find it all a bit pointless with the latest smart phones having the tech to handle cloud gaming perfectly. Unless this is to be part of SONY's mobile phone range
mxbison
Member
How far in the future? 20 years?
Where the hell do you have internet fast enough to cloud-stream-game outside of your house?
I can't even load websites without 2-3 seconds delay on the subway....
I agree but Sony may not.
Yeah , 99usd was the price point that they were trying to hit. Sony definitely will be trying to estimate the incremental engagement and revenue a cloud streaming device and accounting that in the price, thats a lot harder for anyone that isn't a platform holder.
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