Jeff Grubb: Sony is working on a cloud handheld

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Cloud in a handheld… who came up with this brilliant idea? If this isn't a Japanese only then it is dead on arrival.
 
Esppiral said:
Cloud+ handheld sounds like a terrible idea.
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The point of a portable is that you can play it everywhere without the worry of a solid connection. I mean cloud gaming AS IS is awful even on a home console now a cloud on a portable? I wish I could be in that meeting at Sony to know the mentality behind this.
 
Doesn't even make sense. If he received reports about a Vita 2 then how has he only heard about a cloud device?

Are they the same report or is he saying he is his own source?
 
nowhat said:
I think Sony is up for a rude awakening. It is, in fact, quite hard to hold a cloud in your hands.
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A 90€ smartphone is good enough to run PSNow. Do they want to release something more expensive than a cheaper smartphone? If it so, it's dead on arrival, more dead than Vita.
 
That's called a mobile phone. Sony already make them.
 
hemo memo said:
Cloud in a handheld… who came up with this brilliant idea? If this isn't a Japanese only then it is dead on arrival.
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Japan (or any country) isn't going to buy a device just because its portable.
bitbydeath said:
Doesn't even make sense. If he received reports about a Vita 2 then how has he only heard about a cloud device?

Are they the same report or is he saying he is his own source?
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Tom Henderson is reporting that Sony are working on new hardware and people are speculating that it's a Vita successor. Jeff is telling people the only Sony handheld he has heard about is a cloud one.
 
reksveks said:
Yeah , 99usd was the price point that they were trying to hit. Sony definitely will be trying to estimate the incremental engagement and revenue a cloud streaming device and accounting that in the price, thats a lot harder for anyone that isn't a platform holder.
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Looking at VR they might go after a premium price. But maybe they learnt a lesson from VR. It probably depends how they want to position the device.

Though probably PSP handset might succeed (somehow) if it is in line with Switch Pro and thus it might get the same level of support. Probably. Or not :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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It's a bonehead decision if this is true

No one cares about the cloud
 
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Cloud ain't it yet. If Sony actually made a native gaming handheld, I'd buy.

If it's a cloud handheld that's just an awkward market, because everyone already has capable cloud devices with their phones. Sorta needs to be native to be worth a damn.
 
So VR2 and PS5 w detachable drive this year
This portable device + PS5 Pro next year.

They are going all in on the hardware department.

I'm only interested on the Pro for now though.
 
It could be an interesting device if its cheap, and it has full remote and psnow capabilities.

Ok you can't play in a train nor plane, but there is a niche of people who want to play in sofa while their couples are watching the TV, or during holidays abroad, or in hotel.

A native device would be the dumbest because a lot of resources has to be wasted in a product that could fail and it would hurt your game production line... A production line that would be insufficient to compete, especially for the new generation.
 
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Holy shit.

So. Device without ability to play could games. Just Remote Play only? When there are several devices on the market that can run multiple cloud gaming services? That's sounds pretty pathetic tbh.

I bet that Sony will market this device on Adaptive Triggers and Haptic Feedback only.
 
A handheld device that should be portable because it's a handheld device is now going to be constrained by internet access, and if you do have internet access it better be a reliable one because it's a CLOUD device.

You can't make this shit up.
 
Carter Burke said:
It could be an interesting device if its cheap, and it has full remote and psnow capabilities.

Ok you can't play in a train nor plane, but there is a niche of people who want to play in sofa while their couples are watching the TV, or during holidays abroad, or in hotel.
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The problem is that it's now limited to ps5 owners cause it doesn't support psnow.
 
reksveks said:
The problem is that it's now limited to ps5 owners cause it doesn't support psnow.
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But I don't believe that. Or it is 100% confirmed?

I expect a device consisting of a dualsense, a screen and an ARM. You can put your PSNow and PSRemote applications and double you audicience...

Restrict that device to Now or Remote It's a decision made by a monkey
 
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Carter Burke said:
But I don't believe that. Or it is 100% confirmed?

I expect a device consisting of a dualsense, a screen and an ARM. You can put your PSNow and PSRemote applications and double you audicience....
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That's what the article is implying imo, I might be implying something that isn't there or Tom has it wrong.

Codenamed the Q Lite, the next PlayStation handheld is the next piece of Sony hardware that aims to be yet another piece of hardware that requires the PlayStation 5. Insider Gaming understands that the Q Lite is not a cloud-streaming device, but instead uses Remote Play with the PlayStation 5 – A feature the console giant has been pushing these past couple of weeks.
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I would have expected it to support PS Now as well so maybe it's just something that Tom isn't sharing. It's also something that they could add via software updates.
 
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Just making sure, are we up in arms at this baseless attention-grabbing rumor? At the possibility that Sony is for some reason making a cloud-based handheld? Or both?
 
Mr Moose said:
Sounds shit.
Thankfully the dude knows nothing.
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Yup. He just leaked...
...Sony Inzone headsets and monitors
....exact date when Sony will launch Discord integration with PlayStation
....existence of DualSense Edge controller with exact features

But...thankfully the dude knows nothing :D
 
reksveks said:
https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-handheld/

Only seems to support remote play.... Weird choice so I am out.
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That's literally what a Vita does right now, but it also plays games natively.
Sounds stupid as fuck and DOA if it's real, but it's Grubb and he likes pissing out of his ass so...
Godot25 said:
Yup. He just leaked...
...Sony Inzone headsets and monitors
....exact date when Sony will launch Discord integration with PlayStation
....existence of DualSense Edge controller with exact features

But...thankfully the dude knows nothing :D
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No he didn't.
Wait are you talking about Grubb?
 
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Mr Moose said:
That's literally what a Vita does right now, but it also plays games natively.
Sounds stupid as fuck and DOA if it's real, but it's Grubb and he likes pissing out of his ass so...
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This source is Tom so maybe a different Sony source, maybe still be incorrect.
 
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This thread is ridiculous. No one even knows what Sony is up to, yet so many people are super confident that it's going to be awful.
 
Carter Burke said:
It could be an interesting device if its cheap, and it has full remote and psnow capabilities.

Ok you can't play in a train nor plane, but there is a niche of people who want to play in sofa while their couples are watching the TV, or during holidays abroad, or in hotel.

A native device would be the dumbest because a lot of resources has to be wasted in a product that could fail and it would hurt your game production line... A production line that would be insufficient to compete, especially for the new generation.
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Or you could just release a remote-play Android/iOS app?
 
Topher said:
Sucks but really isn't surprising. Creating a dedicated handheld gaming library isn't really a viable thing anymore. That's why we have Switch as a hybrid and handhelds like Steam Deck that play low rez versions of existing PC games.



seriously?

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Actually, I'd love that if its really cheap (like less than £100 cheap), being able to play my PS5 in any room would be awesome, think of it as a peripheral rather than a standalone handheld
 
Topher said:
Sucks but really isn't surprising. Creating a dedicated handheld gaming library isn't really a viable thing anymore. That's why we have Switch as a hybrid and handhelds like Steam Deck that play low rez versions of existing PC games.



seriously?

The Office I Give Up GIF
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the matrix GIF
 
Godot25 said:
Well. Since Henderson expanded Grubb's report and basically confirmed "cloud handheld" from Sony, I think we can move on from Grubb.

https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-handheld/
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That's different to what Grubb said, so he did know nothing.
I've only ever heard about a cloud-streaming handheld.
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Insider Gaming understands that the Q Lite is not a cloud-streaming device, but instead uses Remote Play with the PlayStation 5 – A feature the console giant has been pushing these past couple of weeks.
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It's also pretty fucking useless if it's only remote play.
 
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