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[SmokedMeat]

Cloud based Sony handheld? Just stop. Somebody throw in the towel.

 

[Aldric]

So it's not even a streaming handheld but more like a Wii U gamepad? That's pretty sad.

 

[Mr Moose]

So it's not even a streaming handheld but more like a Wii U gamepad? That's pretty sad.

You can play games using remote play outside of your house, as long as your home console is online.

 

[Godot25]

That's different to what Grubb said, so he did know nothing.


It's also pretty fucking useless if it's only remote play.

And device that requires internet connection to play a games (albeit through remote play) is not cloud device?

 

[Mr Moose]

And device that requires internet connection to play a games (albeit through remote play) is not cloud device?

No.

 

[Nautilus]

A Cloud streaming handheld?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's completely DOA for sure.

 

[Godot25]

No.

Okay then. If your definition does not consider it as a "cloud" device than Grubb is a liar

I consider the device that Henderson is describing as a cloud device because it seems that playing games native is out of the possibility. And since only way to play games would be through internet connection, it is a cloud device. So Grubb was right, he just did not elaborate more about the device. Unlike Henderson.

 

[Nautilus]

It's gonna be a 5G enabled cloud streaming handheld in partnership with phone carriers and with its own 5G plan with the marketing promise of lag-free 5G cloud gaming. Quote me on this.

Oh nice, it would basically be a console with a subscription to pay for the 5G attached to it, every freaking month. What a great idea.

 

[kuncol02]

Actually, I'd love that if its really cheap (like less than £100 cheap), being able to play my PS5 in any room would be awesome, think of it as a peripheral rather than a standalone handheld

If it has all dual sense capabilities and 8 inch oled then it will probably cost more than 200.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

So not even cloud but just remote play? Unless it costs like 100$ it is DOA

 

[Topher]

Actually, I'd love that if its really cheap (like less than £100 cheap), being able to play my PS5 in any room would be awesome, think of it as a peripheral rather than a standalone handheld

It supposedly has DualSense features as well so I don't see it being under $200 at the very minimum. I'd agree that at $100 is might be a compelling peripheral, but I just can't see that price point.

 

[digdug2]

Once again, why would anyone actually take these rumors as gospel? They aren't true until they're officially announced by Sony, so there's literally no point in getting all worked up and arguing with each other over hearsay.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

That sounds completely awful. Yeesh, if this ends up true, I wouldn't expect this to do very well. What an odd choice for them to make for hardware

 

[midnightAI]

It supposedly has DualSense features as well so I don't see it being under $200 at the very minimum. I'd agree that at $100 is might be a compelling peripheral, but I just can't see that price point.

Agreed. 100 is a pipe dream but at 100 (or even 150) I think it would do really well even if its just for streaming at home

 

[Topher]

Once again, why would anyone actually take these rumors as gospel? They aren't true until they're officially announced by Sony, so there's literally no point in getting all worked up and arguing with each other over hearsay.

Folks can discuss the rumor itself without taking it as "gospel" you know.

 

[Mr Moose]

Okay then. If your definition does not consider it as a "cloud" device than Grubb is a liar

I consider the device that Henderson is describing as a cloud device because it seems that playing games native is out of the possibility. And since only way to play games would be through internet connection, it is a cloud device. So Grubb was right, he just did not elaborate more about the device. Unlike Henderson.

Xbox Support

support.xbox.com

There are two ways to play Xbox console games right on your Windows PC, phone, or other device. Cloud gaming lets you play Xbox games from the cloud using your Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription. Remote play lets you remotely play the games on your Xbox console on other devices.

Cloud gaming and Remote Play are some of several Gaikai-powered streaming services announced for the PlayStation 4 through its PlayStation Now service.[30] Cloud gaming differs from Remote Play in that Remote Play allows games on home devices to operate remotely over a wireless network,[31] while cloud gaming refers to a game that resides on a distant server rather than on a user's device.[32]

You technically don't need internet with remote play, it works over your wifi connection without internet, you only need internet if you are going to use it outside of your wifi range.

 

[Killer8]

Completely pointless when everyone's phone can do this and peripherals exist to mimic the console experience. One is even officially licensed:

 

[Bragr]

It's a PS Plus machine. Saves them from making real handheld games, they can just stream their already existing games.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Cloud is the future. Sorry, guys.

Tell that to Stadia.

 

[Spukc]

The f is the point…
Don't you guys have phones?

 

[digdug2]

Folks can discuss the rumor itself without taking it as "gospel" you know.

I sure do. And some people are discussing the rumor, and some are taking it as gospel.

Edit: this frustrating thread isn't for me, so I'll see myself out.

 

[Godot25]

http://[URL]https://support.xbox.com/en-GB/help/games-apps/game-setup-and-play/how-to-play-on-mobile

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You technically don't need internet with remote play, it works over your wifi connection without internet, you only need internet if you are going to use it outside of your wifi range.

That doesn't change anything on fact that you can't play native games on this kind of device.

But if you want to create third category of devices with "not-cloud but not-native" name, do as you want.

 

[Bojanglez]

People are potentially getting too worked up about this. It sounds like it is just a quality of life peripheral for people that like to remote play (and possibly PS+ cloud play). There is no harm in it, just like there is no harm in Sony releasing their own headsets for people that like to listen in that way.

If it is that then it won't distract developers from targeting PS5. It would only (potentially) cause an issue if it was more than that.

 

[Topher]

I sure do. And some people are discussing the rumor, and some are taking it as gospel.

Ok? Let them

 

[digdug2]

Ok? Let them

You got it partner. See ya later

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

It all depends on the price.

Also lol at people saying the phone is enough when this gives you Dual Sense feats, probably bigger screen and you don't screw up your phone's battery.

We also don't know if between now and then some changes to Remote Play won't happen. It's a matter of waiting and see how this will play out.

I'm just happy Sony wasn't dumb enough to create an actual portable device with games specifically made for it again. Last thing we need is their studios spread between PS5, another portable device and VR2...plus the PC ports they try to do.

 

[Mr Moose]

That doesn't change anything on fact that you can't play native games on this kind of device.

But if you want to create third category of devices with "not-cloud but not-native" name, do as you want.

I mean yeah, it's called remote play. It's shit if that's all it does, we can do that right now and it's a pointless device if true. I don't see who it would be for and why it would exist.

PS Remote Play is available on Android smartphones and tablets, iPhone or iPad, Windows PC and Mac, as well as your PS5 and PS4 consoles.*

And Vita*
Do we really need a dedicated device for it?

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Another device (like PSVR) that requires PS5.

And Vita*

VIta means life thus it is dead

 

[TrebleShot]

So I've tried cloud gaming a lot and it's very very good now.

People constantly spread misinformation like "lags like shit" "input latency is terrible" "artefacting ruin it".

These aren't lies but they aren't truths either, maybe 5 years ago mostly any cloud based gaming system was like that it didn't matter on your connection.

But now you have very VERY good services such as GeForce now and Xcloud that are pretty close to native , close but not exact but it's getting there and fast.

Your head is in the sand if you don't think it's viable or possible to have an amazing experience via streaming.

I use my steam deck for remote play on PS5 and PC and both work flawlessly almost like native and if Sony made a high quality streaming device there is absolutely a space for it in the market.

I have a backbone also and I can tell you it's no where NEAR as enjoyable as something like the steam deck plus you don't want to constantly switch between messaging apps etc whilst gaming, for me they need to be separate.

 

[RoadHazard]

That would make more sense than an actual portable console. Doesn't interest me though.

 

[Topher]

So I've tried cloud gaming a lot and it's very very good now.

People constantly spread misinformation like "lags like shit" "input latency is terrible" "artefacting ruin it".

These aren't lies but they aren't truths either, maybe 5 years ago mostly any cloud based gaming system was like that it didn't matter on your connection.

But now you have very VERY good services such as GeForce now and Xcloud that are pretty close to native , close but not exact but it's getting there and fast.

Your head is in the sand if you don't think it's viable or possible to have an amazing experience via streaming.

I use my steam deck for remote play on PS5 and PC and both work flawlessly almost like native and if Sony made a high quality streaming device there is absolutely a space for it in the market.

I have a backbone also and I can tell you it's no where NEAR as enjoyable as something like the steam deck plus you don't want to constantly switch between messaging apps etc whilst gaming, for me they need to be separate.

Cloud experience is going to vary based on a number of factors though. So for me cloud gaming has been ok but not close to native. That isn't spreading misinformation. Simply reporting my experience. The very nature of cloud gaming means results are going are not going to be the same for everyone.

 

[Corndog]

HOW is Jeff Grubb a thing.

He's not. He's a person.

 

[balls of snow]

Good. I rather Sony dont divide their attention on handheld games and just go hard on the ps5.

 

[Corndog]

How far in the future? 20 years?

Where the hell do you have internet fast enough to cloud-stream-game outside of your house?

I can't even load websites without 2-3 seconds delay on the subway....

I think the biggest problem isn't speed. It's the latency.

It can be lowered by physically closer servers.

 

[Daniel_Mallorca1985]

 

[Skifi28]

Portable ps4-level hardware maybe, but pro? Sounds like bullcrap.

 

[Umbasaborne]

He's only now speaking about what he heard?

Clout! Oh me too i definitely heard about this thing? Can i have some clout now too? Please let me have more clout

 

[hemo memo]

Japan (or any country) isn't going to buy a device just because its portable.

I wasn't talking about the country preference only but the internet infrastructure. Capcom ended their cloud RE7 in japan and after Stadia I don't know how Sony could come up with this stupid idea of a cloud portable.

 

[reksveks]

I have my doubts but would be pleasantly surprised

 

[Three]

If anything they're more likely to make a PS5 Dualsense grip for a phone. Don't see how it would make sense to do a standalone streaming device. If they do their own thin client PS5 streaming device it would be for PSVR2 purposes.

 

[hemo memo]

Game streaming on the go…

 

[Giallo Corsa]

So, a PS4 Pro portable ? Am i getting that right ? (IF it proves to be true).
Also, how would it compare to the Steam deck power-wise ?

 

[Banjo64]

Actually, I'd love that if its really cheap (like less than £100 cheap), being able to play my PS5 in any room would be awesome, think of it as a peripheral rather than a standalone handheld

The Logitech Xbox equivalent is £350.

 

[hemo memo]

So, a PS4 Pro portable ? Am i getting that right ? (IF it proves to be true).
Also, how would it compare to the Steam deck power-wise ?

PS4 Pro streaming portable - No disk drive. In short, a fucking stupid idea.

 

[Exede]

Yes cool finally! Cloud gaming is the future of handheld gaming!
Always wanted to lose my gaming experiance while im traveling. Nice

 

[consoul]

ITT, old men yell at cloud.

 

[hemo memo]

ITT, old men yell at cloud.

I can't hear you over the connection error.

 

[kuncol02]

Tell that to Stadia.

Stadia died not because it was cloud based, but because it was Google made and no sane person would now invest money and time into anything google made. Why would anybody? To be left with nothing year after launch when Google kills Stadia?

 

[lughnasadh123]

If, and that's a hyuge if, Sony is really going to have another handheld, cloud-streaming is the one that makes the most sense that is going to be necessary at some point.

 

[splattered]

If we're lucky Nintendo will also do this... Focus primary on a higher spec TV based console but also offer a cloud streaming device for those that still want a mobile option.