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[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

According to Jez Corden, the Indiana Jones game currently in development at MachineGames / Bethesda will not be Xbox exclusive.

The information was shared during The Xbox Two podcast. Jez Corden says he knows it won’t be exclusive. He says it in such a way as to imply that he is sure of it. In other words, the game will also be released on PlayStation consoles.

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[FalsettoVibe]

Interesting if true.

 

[Abriael_GN]

"has revealed" doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[Bragr]

Does this rumor prove the other rumor wrong? we need a new rumor to find out!

 

[BennyBlanco]

I don’t think MS gives a shit about keeping games off PS

 

[ParaSeoul]

Exclusive or not,I don't really expect much out of it anyway.

 

[SantaC]

Big mistake by MS as this could been their exclusive Uncharted.

 

[SLB1904]

Big mistake by MS as this could been their exclusive Uncharted.

I don’t think MS gives a shit about keeping games off PS

microsoft doesn't own the ip. they have no authority on the matter

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

I don’t think MS gives a shit about keeping games off PS

Exactly. Look at Minecraft and other's MS games released on switch and PlayStation. They don't care what you play their games on, which I see as not only consumer friendly, but a smart decision from a business perspective. Either way, they are benefiting from your money vs only being able to play this game on this specific hardware.

 

[lh032]

majority of bethesta is going to come to Playstation in the future.

 

[Stuart360]

Big mistake by MS as this could been their exclusive Uncharted.

Its probably nothing to do with MS. Disney own the license, and they will want the game on everything with the new film coming next year.

 

[BennyBlanco]

microsoft doesn't own the ip. they have no authority on the matter

Does Sony own Wolverine? No

 

[Dlacy13g]

I never thought it would be exclusive. That deal was made prior to the acquisition....there would have been no reason to make it xbox exclusive when negotiating with Disney then.

 

[Pantz]

Based on year old info he had, he thinks that it's probably, maybe, could be, not exclusive... cool reveal.

 

[SLB1904]

Does Sony own Wolverine? No

Don't know. They own spiderman ps4.
And what's got to do with anything?
They bought the developer with a contract to develop a multiplat game. They have no saying at all. If Sony agree with Disney to make wolverine exclusive that's all there is

 

[Kacho]

Had no idea people were expecting that to be exclusive.

 

[T-Cake]

This is perfectly logical - XBox don't care which platform you play their games on. But of course, there is one big advantage to subscribing to Game Pass because you'll get to play the game for your subscription cost (which might be as little as $1 or even free) or pay $70 to buy it on PlayStation. It certainly won't be offered as part of their PS+.

 

[Bartski]

some hardcore revealing going on by this dude

 

[BennyBlanco]

Don't know. They own spiderman ps4.
And what's got to do with anything?
They bought the developer with a contract to develop a multiplat game. They have no saying at all. If Sony agree with Disney to make wolverine exclusive that's all there is

Sony has ownership stake in the Spiderman IP. They made a deal with Disney to make a Wolverine game. There’s nothing stopping MS from doing the same thing.

But maybe Bethesda made this deal a long time ago.

 

[SLB1904]

Exactly. Look at Minecraft and other's MS games released on switch and PlayStation. They don't care what you play their games on, which I see as not only consumer friendly, but a smart decision from a business perspective. Either way, they are benefiting from your money vs only being able to play this game on this specific hardware.

Yet the first opportunity they had to cancel starfirld for ps they did. Stop trying to give them credit for shit they got nothing to do with

But maybe Bethesda made this deal a long time ago.

That's not maybe. That's a fact. The deal was made before the acquisition.
The only way this game will be exclusive is if Microsoft renegociate the contract.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Yet the first opportunity they had to cancel starfirld for ps they did. Stop trying to give them credit for shit they got nothing to do with

You do realize one of the most successful games is available on just about all platforms? It could have been exclusive. Take off the warrior goggles. I applaud whoever allows even more people to play their games. There's no reason to gatekeep games from anyone now a days.

 

[SLB1904]

You do realize one of the most successful games is available on just about all platforms? It could have been exclusive. Take off the warrior goggles. I applaud whoever allows even more people to play their games. There's no reason to gatekeep games from anyone now a days.

What games?

Are you talking about Minecraft?
Which was already multiplat?

Also stop calling people fanboys when you are one of us and shut the fuck up

 

[RoadHazard]

Exactly. Look at Minecraft and other's MS games released on switch and PlayStation. They don't care what you play their games on, which I see as not only consumer friendly, but a smart decision from a business perspective. Either way, they are benefiting from your money vs only being able to play this game on this specific hardware.

Oh, so that's why we have Halo, Forza, Starfield, etc, on PlayStation? There's no reason the same logic shouldn't apply to those right?

 

[Calverz]

majority of bethesta is going to come to Playstation in the future.

That’s Phil spencer rubbing his hands at the money.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

What games?

Are you talking about Minecraft?
Which was already multiplat?

Yup

Oh, so that's why we have Halo, Forza, Starfield, etc, on PlayStation? There's no reason the same logic shouldn't apply to those right?

Actually, I'd love for them to do that. Bigger playerbase and more people get to experience games, which gives more funding for more games.

 

[StealthGoblin]

I don’t think MS gives a shit about keeping games off PS

Starfield. Elder Scrolls etc. They will when it suits them.

 

[Big Baller]

 

[SLB1904]

Yup

Actually, I'd love for them to do that. Bigger playerbase and more people get to experience games, which gives more funding for more games.

How can contradict yourself like that?
You know all this stuff is written down right?
This things aren't based on feelings

 

[El Pistolero]

He had heard that it would not be...Nothing concrete as of yet. Honestly, I am more interested in the game itself than in the platform(s) it will release on.

 

[nominedomine]

Oh boy, this would be hilarious.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Actually, I'd love for them to do that. Bigger playerbase and more people get to experience games, which gives more funding for more games.

Exactly what Ybarra always told me that they (Xbox) didn't buy Bethesda and the likes to make them exclusives because it limited their money making potential

But he said that was met with strong opposition by certain others at Xbox

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

How can contradict yourself like that?
You know all this stuff is written down right?
This things aren't based on feelings

I can't make this up.

Personally, I would love all games to be on all platforms. Halo and GoW on switch, Mario Kart on PlayStation and Xbox, etc. Just like phones, I kinda feel like buying and owning the hardware should grant you access to do whatever you want. That's why I'm more android than iPhone. Why I like being able to repair your own goods (right to repair). I would love if you had the choice of hardware, and can selectively choose whatever software you want.

Playing BOTW in 4k ultrawide, 60fps, removal of the fog, etc, was such an amazing experience. This should be available to everyone. If you don't have the best hardware for instance (Nintendo switch), why not turn down the graphics and resolution to play some Overwatch with your buddies for instance? Gears of war, etc? Would that not change gaming but a longshot? Publishers and devs would make even more money. It's not like Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft would die out, as everyone has preferences on performance, portability, controller, UX, etc.

This is simply my take on it, and I'd love to see these companies open up games for everyone, regardless of the hardware.

Unless time travel exists, I said this earlier

 

[RoadHazard]

Yup

Actually, I'd love for them to do that. Bigger playerbase and more people get to experience games, which gives more funding for more games.

Yeah, but they're not doing that. You and other people are arguing that MS doesn't care where you play their games (Phil has also said something to that effect), but they clearly do. They want to keep you in their ecosystem.

 

[kingfey]

microsoft doesn't own the ip. they have no authority on the matter

They can make it exclusive, if they pay them enough.
The problem is that, MS doesn't really give a shit about exclusives.
They opened their games day1 to pc.
All they care right now, is that sweet day1 gamepass. That is worth alot to them, than timed or full exclusive.

 

[Pelta88]

Every "insider" and podcaster who swore that their "sources" told them it'd be an Xbox exclusive, launching day 1 on GP and nowhere else, looking at their credibility like...

 

[kingfey]

Yeah, but they're not doing that. You and other people are arguing that MS doesn't care where you play their games (Phil has also said something to that effect), but they clearly do. They want to keep you in their ecosystem.

Ecosystem doesn't mean exclusive. Especially if it's on pc, and xcloud.

Its more of, you can play our games where you want. Hence, why exclusives don't work well for them.

 

[Leyasu]

Big mistake by MS as this could been their exclusive Uncharted.

Perhaps Bethesda signed the contracts before the acquisition

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Yeah, but they're not doing that. You and other people are arguing that MS doesn't care where you play their games (Phil has also said something to that effect), but they clearly do. They want to keep you in their ecosystem.

I don't own an Xbox I play on PC. I rarely ever buy from the MS Store, it's always steam. I'm barely in their eco system. I just like to play games without having to have a million and one devices or being limited in how I play them.

 

[RoadHazard]

Ecosystem doesn't mean exclusive. Especially if it's on pc, and xcloud.

Its more of, you can play our games where you want. Hence, why exclusives don't work well for them.

But I can't play them where I want. I want to play Starfield on PS5, but I won't be able to.

 

[Topher]

Starfield. Elder Scrolls etc. They will when it suits them.

Exactly. Seems clear that Microsoft is being selective with the games they make as to whether they are going to be console exclusive or not. Nothing wrong with that. Starfield is an important game for Microsoft to boost Game Pass. Like Sony with MLB, it seems they are willing to accept conditions of non-exclusivity for big games. These are just business decisions.

 

[SLB1904]

I can't make this up.






Unless time travel exists, I said this earlier

You not getting, this isn't about what we want or not.
It's business plain and simple.
Sony negotiate with Disney to make spiderman exclusive and Disney agree and that's all there is is.
And if Bethesda went to Disney and say we want indy ip and we will put on every platform and the potential earnings is this... Disney agree.
You can't just go to the owner of the ip and say well the plan has changed deal with it

 

[Topher]

Perhaps Bethesda signed the contracts before the acquisition

That is a distinct possibility as well.

 

[Captain Toad]

Exactly. Look at Minecraft and other's MS games released on switch and PlayStation. They don't care what you play their games on, which I see as not only consumer friendly, but a smart decision from a business perspective. Either way, they are benefiting from your money vs only being able to play this game on this specific hardware.

So that's why Halo and Forza are on PS5.

 

[DAHGAMING]

Im literaly crying with this news, I have been so excited to show off Xbox got dem games to all the big PS bully men at work, now I will walk about head hung in shame again. Big Phil I worship you but you are breaking my soul.

 

[SLB1904]

They can make it exclusive, if they pay them enough.
The problem is that, MS doesn't really give a shit about exclusives.
They opened their games day1 to pc.
All they care right now, is that sweet day1 gamepass. That is worth alot to them, than timed or full exclusive.

No it doesn't work that way. You can just change the deal because you can pay them enough. Papers are signed agreement is made.
There is nothing to it. Hell is not even guaranteed to be on gamepass lol

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

You not getting, this isn't about what we want or not.
It's business plain and simple.
Sony negotiate with Disney to make spiderman exclusive and Disney agree and that's all there is is.
And if Bethesda went to Disney and say we want indy ip and we will put on every platform and the potential earnings is this... Disney agree.
You can't just go to the owner of the ip and say well the plan has changed deal with it

You do realize that I've never argued any of that, right? You are acting like I'm not getting it, but you quoted the wrong person to begin with

 

[Stuart360]

But I can't play them where I want. I want to play Starfield on PS5, but I won't be able to.

I think the difference with something like Starfield, Elder Scrolls 6, Fallout 5, maybe DOOM 3 etc, they are genuine 'system sellers' or 'Gamepass subbers' (lol)
And i'm sure games like that may well stay exclusive. Some smaller, or less high profile games though, i feel just being day one on Gamepass is good enough for MS as it will bring new subs, while they also make money from said games being sold elsewhere.

 

[Chukhopops]

The only Bethesda studio I don’t really care about after the new Wolfenstein games. Maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised but I don’t expect anything good.

 

[RoadHazard]

I think the difference with something like Starfield, Elder Scrolls 6, Fallout 5, maybe DOOM 3 etc, they are genuine 'system sellers' or 'Gamepass subbers' (lol)
And i'm sure games like that may well stay exclusive. Some smaller, or less high profile games though, i feel just being day one on Gamepass is good enough for MS as it will bring new subs, while they also make money from said games being sold elsewhere.

Yeah. So "MS don't care where you play their games, they get your money either way" is simply not the case. That's what some people are claiming, and what I'm arguing against.

 

[digdug2]

Even if it won't be Xbox exclusive, I hope that it will be current-gen exclusive. Not trying to start any kind of console fight, but PS5 and XBSX/S have been out for 18 months now and I'm hoping to see games coming out in 2023 that aren't being hamstrung by the previous generation.