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Killzone: Shadow Fall Multiplayer Discussion
- Thread starter KilgoreTrout
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I think two assists should count as a kill with respect to challenges, or maybe three assists if two seems too little.
For something like the Buddy Drone, that will take forever to max out as things are now. A bunch of the challenges in general just seem like lost causes, with no point in even attempting.
For something like the Buddy Drone, that will take forever to max out as things are now. A bunch of the challenges in general just seem like lost causes, with no point in even attempting.
This - 100x this. The weapon/skill leveling game is solo centric while winning the actual match doesn't do much towards unlocking skills and weapons.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Man, GAF teams are the best <3
Great games, y'all. Playing in a coordinated group allows me to mess around with different class builds and screw around
Great games, y'all. Playing in a coordinated group allows me to mess around with different class builds and screw around
EpicallyBald
Member
Hi guys when will you guys be holding another session? I'm new to Gaf and I'm the only one outta my friends who has a ps4. please add me on psn: Epically3ald
ZealousMonkey
Banned
My Turret is near Mark X lol. There are a couple too many people that don't even seem like they have played 5 games on the official forums who are already calling for nerfs and buffs. Let's not follow their lead. It doesn't help anyone at this point to make assumptions. Airbots and helper bots are definitely harder but they can be leveled too. My helper bot is level 3 and so is air.
Hint: Warzone and Turrets go well. Minigun +Turret man equals beast man if you can aim and keep that minigun spinning.
Word of advice for those struggling: Forest level and airbots go together like milk and cookies. Level your bot in open spaces with open maps. Larger maps are coming too and maybe some smaller ones.
When your helper bot is trying to get a kill DO NOT overpower it and steal its kill. Hard but you will get the hang of it. Air and helper don't get real until Mark 4 and that will take you some time. These unlocks aren't meant for the first 5 days folks. You need to work to get the top ranks. And even then as long as you get to Mark 4 you are fine. The upgrades just increase or decrease time attributes with bots.
The entire situation is reminiscent of Killzone 2. People whined about not being able to level up (unlock ribbon) due to the bots being underpowered, GG fucked it up then made them overpowered, ruining the balance of the game.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Exactly. I am keeping a close watch on official forums. I don't want no facking Uncharted mess or early KZ mess again. Too many people assume stuff and then start going off on tangents that make absolutely no sense. If the designers are not sure of their game then with those combined you get major problems and too many changes. Uncharted has literally just been terrible about this the past two times. Easily the most confused dev for MP I have ever seen.
On the bright side GG simply doesn't really listen anymore to a lot of these people. If you can make logical deductions and informative posts you will at least get listened to on the forums. They watch pretty closely it seems.
BattleMonkey
Member
Game balance was never there day 1, GG constantly fucked it up and never fixed many of KZ2s balance issues.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
KZ2 had horrid gun balance. This game is so much better than 2 in just about every way except I still love the old maps. Everything else hell no. Patches will lead SF over the mountain.
Yep agreed. Early Uncharted 2 multiplayer was some of the BEST I've EVER played. It was perfect. They ruined it in later patches and Uncharted 3 sucked as well.
I'd like them to lightly tweak KZ SF but right now it's almost perfect.
Grinchy
Banned
I was really happy to see that they added the 24-player Warzone, but the framerate is so shitty in comparison to the 14 player one that I don't think I'll play it much. It reminds me of people playing 32-player Radec Academy all day long. The framerate sucks and it's just a clusterfuck everywhere you look.
I'd still love to see 8v8 or 9v9 Warzone some day though.
I'd still love to see 8v8 or 9v9 Warzone some day though.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
It's not a party until I arrive
So are you going? Lol
Man, GAF teams are the best <3
Great games, y'all. Playing in a coordinated group allows me to mess around with different class builds and screw around
I don't play much mp anything and it's amazing how much teamwork rules each objective. And I don't have a mic. Good times.
Proud as a medic to revive fellow gaf.
Did a few 24 man warzones, quite a bit more chaotic than TDM but at least spawn camping doesn't seem as common there. It's nice to shift the entire team focus away from reaching the spawn point and camping there.
and yeah, I've done the "hold off on shooting so my buddy drone can get the kill" - more often than not it winds up with the enemy killing me though, and it seems utterly ridiculous to resort to something like that to leveling it with assist counting - especially when certain skills like Stun just requires you to hit the enemy instead of stun + kill to register towards skill up.
If I ignore how long it takes to level up certain skills, I think I'm more than okay with how the current game plays with my favorite kits/setup.
and yeah, I've done the "hold off on shooting so my buddy drone can get the kill" - more often than not it winds up with the enemy killing me though, and it seems utterly ridiculous to resort to something like that to leveling it with assist counting - especially when certain skills like Stun just requires you to hit the enemy instead of stun + kill to register towards skill up.
If I ignore how long it takes to level up certain skills, I think I'm more than okay with how the current game plays with my favorite kits/setup.
i was going to join, but my fiancée came home when I got the invite. My Killzone time became Knack time.
So that was a no go on anything starting or on going eh?
SimpleGamer
Member
Anyone wanna party up? Add me xXCallofdutyman
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
What sensitivity settings is everyone using? The default 50% is too slow for me, I jacked it up to 70% but still doesn't feel good. Never had an issue in previous KZ games.
Can't wait for december to get some decent maps for the scout.
Can't wait for december to get some decent maps for the scout.
pretty done
Member
lol what a name
KilgoreTrout
Banned
Ggs all. We have room for 3 in the party now.
Add me if you wanna join; kilgoreisdead
Add me if you wanna join; kilgoreisdead
Cynn
Member
Has anyone else been sharing KZ vids on YT? I've found KZ players in general team play and seem to actually care about objectives and stuff a lot more than your usual COD and BF public players.
Here's a vid of a match on the forest level I did. http://youtu.be/jdfvfX_DO1Q
Air drones covered the objectives, revives were given with regularity and beacon runners were protected/intercepted when at all possible. All in a public game!
Here's a vid of a match on the forest level I did. http://youtu.be/jdfvfX_DO1Q
Air drones covered the objectives, revives were given with regularity and beacon runners were protected/intercepted when at all possible. All in a public game!
MagicWithEarvin
Member
My bad, was about to hop on then had family come over and they wanted to watch movies.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
I'm telling you the buddy drone does end up working when it gets to level 4. I am not even at level 4 and I can see that it will be helpful to get -2sec on each attribute. It really is just a helper which I know can be disappointing. But it does work with the assault class and support pretty well AFTER you get the hang of the hard part; trying to negotiate who gets the kill. It will cost you a few lives lol getting this down. I mean I have to think sometimes my opponent wonders what the hell I am doing circling him up close without firing many shots! It's my buddy drone guyz!
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I want a patch for better gun sounds... D: KZ2 / 3 kick the shit out of the sounds in SF personally. :/
That draw was awesome though, I like when the opposition puts up a good fight.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Well, the M82 in KZ2 was terrible. I'd say most of the guns sound pretty decent.
Population is consistently healthy but not huge atm. GG has a lot planned though so you might want to get into this now if you plan on it before everyone is totally leveled.
New maps I think are coming before Christmas.
ChainsawFilms
Member
I was planning on trading this in, having spent an awful hour or so on the single player and finding it, well, utterly crap. Decided to give multiplayer a quick go first, and glad I'm did. Really enjoying it. Definitely had the Killzone 2 MP vibe going on, and it's a welcome change of pace after a frantic Battlefield 4 match.
Will need to put more time into it, but so far, really enjoying multiplayer. Really shouldn't be surprised given how much I enjoyed KZ2 and, to a lesser extent, KZ3. Slow and tactical.
Will need to put more time into it, but so far, really enjoying multiplayer. Really shouldn't be surprised given how much I enjoyed KZ2 and, to a lesser extent, KZ3. Slow and tactical.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Yeah I jumped into MP immediately but find the campaign pretty fun though doing it slow.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I still say the sounds are fucking neutered, as one thing that always impressed me with KZ besides graphics was the sound work they did. That just did not happen this time around for me.
We had 10 people in a custom warzone "buddy zone destruction" (low health buddy drone and melee only) the other day. Just playing that for a few rounds really helped me understand how buddy drones work best and how to use them properly. Getting them in doors first, making it so you aren't blocking their shot and things like that.
If anyone sees it on the active list it is definitely worth trying out.
Its hitting 5-6K now, and growing, ps4 install is still LOW, by January it will be more than twice this. No other shooter of merit is coming out till Spring and its a coop shooter. This game will grow for at least 12 months.
This (and any other launch game) isnt like a BLOPs launching on an install base of 90m ps3s and hitting 200K players on day one.
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Its not co-op yet anyways eh? Since arent they going to put that in with a later update?
It's the stun effect either from a Stun Drone (Scout) or a Stun Blast (Assault)
Haha your partner got in the way and the grenade bounced off his head and back at you. That's happened to me twice, and it's always pretty funny.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Warzone is so fucking frustrating on teams that just seem like they have no idea what the hell they are doing. Damn man. Haven't felt this pissed off since Warhawk and not this helpless since ever. We need chat so badly.
Should mention that just chat is completely worthless. We need our mics working we already bought not this POS pack-in. I set a mic on the desktop and wear nice headphones so in general I will be waiting for Sony AND GG to update. Oh the glory.
I've realized the best thing to do is just quit out. It's not worth anger and emotion to struggle with idiots and noobs. It helps.
Should mention that just chat is completely worthless. We need our mics working we already bought not this POS pack-in. I set a mic on the desktop and wear nice headphones so in general I will be waiting for Sony AND GG to update. Oh the glory.
I've realized the best thing to do is just quit out. It's not worth anger and emotion to struggle with idiots and noobs. It helps.
KilgoreTrout
Banned
Trying to get another party started. Add me if you wanna join: kilgoreisdead
A few spots are open.
A few spots are open.
pretty done
Member
And thank god for that.
Lets keep KZ2 in KZ2, that game is simply not fun. Although I do prefer the amount of classes in KZ2 to the simplified babby shit in KZSF. I have no Infiltrator you bastards at GG.
Have they said anything about fixing grenade throwing? I don't think I've played a multiplayer FPS with grenade throwing this bad.
I'm at 80. You may also want to experiment with having the vertical sensitivity one notch lower than horizontal.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
what's wrong with the grenades? I think they work great, maybe too great.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Team announcers are fucking weak now. I really miss the miserable, aggressive tone of the PS3 games. Taking away the propaganda dilutes the atmosphere too. Won a beacon round and the line was to the effect of:
"Well done. We have more beacons."
Yay?
Good news is the game is satisfying me in all other ways. Harsh impressions had me worried, but this feels like the best in the series so far in terms of multiplayer mechanics. It's a shame spawn on squad leader is gone but generous spawn beacons makes up for it (when the team bothers).
The combination of now aim assist and the DS4's precision makes the shooting very, very satisfying.
"Well done. We have more beacons."
Yay?
Good news is the game is satisfying me in all other ways. Harsh impressions had me worried, but this feels like the best in the series so far in terms of multiplayer mechanics. It's a shame spawn on squad leader is gone but generous spawn beacons makes up for it (when the team bothers).
The combination of now aim assist and the DS4's precision makes the shooting very, very satisfying.