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Killzone: Shadow Fall Multiplayer Discussion
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Huggers
Member
The thing that bothers me is the lack of people playing support roles. The advantage of having an extra spawn point near an objective is huge yet it seem no one bothers. I am constantly reviving and keeping spawn points close to the action. Would be nice if others did this
Also. What load outs for each class are you guys using?
Also. What load outs for each class are you guys using?
anonymous_abc
Member
I'm ready to jump into MP next week.
Is there a GAF clan, group or something?
Is there a GAF clan, group or something?
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Loadouts are almost all completely preference. But I use Pulver ACOG/spawn the most with support along with my turret/minigun. I use all the weapons more or less.
Assault's weapons are all viable. Even the all purpose Keyzer with ACOG is fun as well. I switch from buddy helper to stuns to level up that stuff. Stuns are very useful in TDM situations.
As for Scout that is pretty much ALL preference. The guns are hit and miss depending on you feel about them. Kameraad is pretty awesome as is the Kors. I barely get to use this class as I am tethered to spawns a lot of the matches.
Blackthorn
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I'm nearly always the only person dropping spawns. Luckily I really enjoy the role and I love the feeling of singlehandedly turning a game around.
I start with support with spawn + rifle, then make a turret, then load up assault if I die again. When the spawn point is destroyed or depleted I cycle back to support to make a new one.
WetPotatoBread
Banned
We started up a A.M party if anyone wants to join us, add IonUNiT on PSN.
Wildstar75
Member
I have got my Spawn ability maxed out to level 11. I love it! Now I need to level up my healing ability some more. I have only played support class so far.
I am not sure what I think about the Beacon Theft (aka CTF) where the defense team can simply touch their beacon to return it to their base.
I remember in Warhawk, the team would have to be around it for time dependent upon how long the other team had the flag, in order to return it. But then again, those maps are way bigger and KZ:SF are tinier so that might not work.
I remember in Warhawk, the team would have to be around it for time dependent upon how long the other team had the flag, in order to return it. But then again, those maps are way bigger and KZ:SF are tinier so that might not work.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Is assassination mode still in the game? Missing it in the 24 player Warzone rotation.
KilgoreTrout
Banned
Starting up a party here in a few minutes.
Let me know if you wanna join. My PSN id is kilgoreisdead.
1 open spot.
Let me know if you wanna join. My PSN id is kilgoreisdead.
1 open spot.
SkylineRKR
Member
'Kameraad'
I lol'd when i saw it. Its dutch for Comrade.
But this MP? Fucking excellent! Even the funnels are gone. Take dat graphics, dat hit detection, hit confirm sounds, and a more streamlined class system and I pretty much think this owns BF4. Oh, and it actually works.
I lol'd when i saw it. Its dutch for Comrade.
But this MP? Fucking excellent! Even the funnels are gone. Take dat graphics, dat hit detection, hit confirm sounds, and a more streamlined class system and I pretty much think this owns BF4. Oh, and it actually works.
MADGAME
Member
Yeah, you kind of need to just let it do it's thing. It will rarely get a kill for you while you are shooting an enemy, but sometimes if you engage and know you are getting beat and dip for cover, it will finish the job. Mine occasionally picks of someone with low health that runs by, but it's infrequent for sure.
An upside though is it can act as an alert system, firing at enemies around you that you didn't know were there.
ref
Member
Danne-Danger
Member
Making both options viable shouldn't really screw up the gameplay. Even if ADS and hipfire has pretty much the same accuracy, aiming is a lot easier when you're zoomed in no matter what game it is. It will still be important to make a decision between the aiming modes depending on where you predict your enemy to be.
The main benefit from having a softer focus on ADS is a more fluid game since you're not as heavily rewarded from sticking back to a point from which you can easily predict where your enemy is coming from.
With strong ADS, if you have your sight up and your enemy doesn't, you'll always have the advantage since his reaction time is handicapped. What it basically means is that a heavy ADS focus promotes camping more than anything.
Allowing hipfire lets you round a corner, assess the situation, and engage threats quicker and more easily. A guy aiming at you will still have an advantage, but you're not as heavily penalized from moving around.
Especially in an objective game with attackers vs. defenders, making hipfire viable has huge benefits for the gameplay. Games in the Enemy Territory series -- to which at least KZ2 bore a lot of similarities -- all have a strong objective focus and a huge degree of freedom in mobility. ET:Quake Wars had as well, and while hipfire was very strong in that game, you'd still have an advantage if you had your sights up. It just wasn't the right desicion in every situation, IMO bringing more depth to the gameplay, and above all incentive to be on the offensive. The same could be said about KZ2 in a lot of respects.
*I haven't played Shadow Fall BTW, so I would be interested to hear how it compares more to KZ2 specifically. I'm just lurking this thread to get an idea if it's similar enough to be interesting (as KZ2 had a lot of potential), and improved enough to not make me yearn for more ET:QW, hehe.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I have no problem using hip fire with any of the assault rifles...
I still don't understand the complaint and hope GG doesn't fuck it up because of a few vocal minority members.
Hip fire is a good medium between KZ2 and KZ3 at two ends of the extremes, and that's how it should be. I shouldn't be able to hip fire a guy across the map like in KZ2
I still don't understand the complaint and hope GG doesn't fuck it up because of a few vocal minority members.
Hip fire is a good medium between KZ2 and KZ3 at two ends of the extremes, and that's how it should be. I shouldn't be able to hip fire a guy across the map like in KZ2
Vultur is two-shot kill, fires pretty slow. Kameraad I think is three-shot, fires pretty fast - better in close range. Both are single headshot kills. Honestly, I think the Kameraad is better, but in terms of range effectiveness it goes Fors > Vultur > Kameraad
TimeEffect
Member
GG guys.
We have to separate our top players and have a GAF v GAF match.
I want that next level intensity, as stomping pub matches makes me feel too guilty
We have to separate our top players and have a GAF v GAF match.
I want that next level intensity, as stomping pub matches makes me feel too guilty
TimeEffect
Member
No one is asking for that. The game wasn't built that way. People know that.
What people are asking for is for hipfire to be reliable or at least advantageous where it should be.
There is very little reason to hipfire when ADS + hipfire is a much more guaranteed result ALL the time. I'll have an enemy right in my face, and I know that ADSing is a much more reliable method even at such range.
Obviously, it's a delicate balance consideration, but that doesn't mean that we can't have a game where both hipfire and ADS are viable depending on the gun/circumstance.
KZObsessed
Member
Played my first few online games today and... I like it.
The gunplay is just KZ3 really which disappoints me but the no aim assist is very nice even if ADS isn't my style.
I've only played a few of the maps and only played those once each but I like the maps I've played so far, much better than KZ3. So yeah, good first impressions.
I'm starting a new job tomorrow so don't know how much I'll be able to play in the coming weeks but hopefully I can join some GAF games.
The gunplay is just KZ3 really which disappoints me but the no aim assist is very nice even if ADS isn't my style.
I've only played a few of the maps and only played those once each but I like the maps I've played so far, much better than KZ3. So yeah, good first impressions.
I'm starting a new job tomorrow so don't know how much I'll be able to play in the coming weeks but hopefully I can join some GAF games.
Is there a GAF group or something that plays? Really enjoying it so far and want a regular bunch of people to play it with. I take it everyone is playing 24p Warzones right? The only way to play KZ really, haven't even really touched the others, apart from 2 mins in TDM just for a look.
Just played a few games after being out of town for a week for the holiday. Holy shit, the level of grenade and drone spam is insane. People have really picked up on how great grenades are, especially when cooked. Unfortunately, the drone thing is a complete disaster. I probably had two turret kills for every enemy I saw. Feels so pointless to even play.
super-famicom
Member
Got my replacement PS4 last night! Installed Shadow Fall but it was late so I didn't play it. I just started work now and don't get to go home for another 8 hours. Ugh, this is gonn be a long day.
super-famicom
Member
What mode are you playing? From what I've been reading in this thread, this kind of thing happens a lot in TDM. Warzones with objective based modes seem to be better.
KZ2 was a "fuckfest" most of the time.
ButchCat
Member
That's correct I haven't tried the other modes although I hope I am wrong. I'll try tomorrow to see if it clicks with me otherwise I might just swap the game for a copy of BF4.
super-famicom
Member
For me, I felt Radec Academy was a "fuckfest," and the other maps were pretty good, especially Salumun Market and that desert one. I think there was a refinery/factory map that kinda sucked though.
TimeEffect
Member
Wish you could turn off grenades (unless you can...pretty sure you can). Would enjoy playing some more gun-to-gun games. It's a shame the player population is so low, because there are some solid variants that people could play... GG should update their main playlists...maybe rotate one out each week or have a weekend promoting a new mode.
I don't necessarily mind grenades, but cooking is a pretty solid strategy in this game. I think reviving with ammo/nades is overkill.
Personally, I would not mind if you spawned with no grenades, and had to use supply boxes to get them.
I really wish supply boxes were like in previous KZ games where Engineers went around repairing ammo crates. They added a lovely meta-game to the classes/map strategy. Maps like Salamun Market were awesome because of those turrets and ammo boxes.
KZ2 was awful for the fact that you could run with three grenades. Talk about overkill. But in that first week or so, there was a solid concept with maps having repairable turrets/crates
I wish you could have an ammo area in your base that you could stock up on grenades with, or something. I understand the grenade frustration and miss the way KZ2 did it conceptually, and would like a way that promoted more teamwork. Unfortunately, it really seems most players can't even place spawn beacons down, though I swear this has improved the last 2 days. I think I'm seeing more players come around and drop beacons/revive more consistently
Had a good few games with some of you (I'm colonel_jake) and then it decided to throw me an error message and kick me from the game. Really love the level design on some of the maps with hidden passages behind breakable walls and shrubbery. The one with the rotating core is great, you can travel all the way up the middle of the rotating core and come out of the bar on the roof, it's great! Hopefully I'll be able to have a lot more games with you all with a mic, especially next week with me having the whole week off.
EightBitNate
Member
Can you guys tone it down a little bit. I'm dying too much.
EpicallyBald
Member
you guys still playing?