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Killzone: Shadow Fall Multiplayer Discussion
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LollipoPReapeR
Member
People asking about lag, personally it wasn't bad when I started playing about two hours ago, but now I'm seeing people teleporting/skating. It doesn't make it unplayable but when you're up against a decent player, it makes it much harder than usual to get a kill. This is on a 24 player warzone btw
Last night was the worst I've seen it since I started playing. Even classic had people skating around
brickwalker0
Member
I dont blame people for not picking the Spawn Beacon, its just not a fun mechanic. The only enjoyment you get from it is knowing youre helping the team in a big way. The ability in and of itself is not fun to use.
AgentOtaku
Member
Speak for yoself!
I love the damn thing and its the main reason I've roled support for so long
LollipoPReapeR
Member
I think you do have a point. Once it's placed, that's it pretty much. No proper fun, but there is a sense of accomplishment when you place it deep in enemy territory or in a brilliant flanking position
EightBitNate
Member
Surely people know that you can suck ass but place hella spawn beacons and still do really well, right? You could be killing it on assault and still get beat by someone on support dropping spawn beacons. 75pts each time someone spawns really adds up.
brickwalker0
Member
Being the only user of the Spawn Beacon on a bad team has netted me my highest score on multiple ocassions simply due to what you mentioned.
I believe this is why I usually vastly outscore my team and sometimes everyone else, but I'm also near or at the top in mission points and kills. Reviving also helps a lot, that 100 points per revive adds up a lot when you are one of the few doing it.
AgentOtaku
Member
Same for me, I'm usually always in the top 3
yes, but it's irritating as to win a mission in warzone you need at least two carefully placed spawn beacons. i play for the team!
I love using the spawn beacon. Goood for the team sure but it also means I don't have to run a lot too, good to place one down before I do something risky.
BUT I just hate the weapon selection for the class. The guns are just... boring and shitty, which is kinda funny since it contains a minigun, 3 burst power weapon and LMGs but they just are not fun to use at all, feel generic ( and the minigun and the burst one take a bit too long to shoot)
LMG from KZ2 though, they were great to use.
I do love the shotgun though, beast weapon.
BUT I just hate the weapon selection for the class. The guns are just... boring and shitty, which is kinda funny since it contains a minigun, 3 burst power weapon and LMGs but they just are not fun to use at all, feel generic ( and the minigun and the burst one take a bit too long to shoot)
LMG from KZ2 though, they were great to use.
I do love the shotgun though, beast weapon.
AgentOtaku
Member
It's not that they're shitty, it's that the two rifles have a stupid amount of muzzle flash and recoil and like others said, shooting them becomes confusing as fuck. I almost always pick up a stray Rumbler or whatever else is around because of it.
GG said they are going to release a "classic weapon pack". I never played previous killzones what were the tactician, field medic, engineer weapons like? Were any popular enough they might introduce them?
AgentOtaku
Member
Duuuude
Field Medic that came with M82 Rifle in KZ2 was GOD-TIER
I NEVER played another class.
The M82 for the ISA is probably one of the best weapons created in an FPS for me, it was just SO GOOD to use. The way it looked, reloaded, felt and sounded was awesome, as well as the impact it gives.
SMG was great too as well as the semi auto rifle in it. LMGs were very fun to use as well.
KZ 2 weapons >> KZ SF, even if there are less.
AgentOtaku
Member
While I put SF ahead of KZ2 in terms of SP campaign, indeed KZ2 still reigns supreme with weapons and MP in general.
As I said in the other thread, I hate how GG finally gave in and made ADS the primary firing method (thank god for the Sickle in SF).
Hip firing was wonderful in KZ2 (almost as if GG expected you to play it primarily that way) and i'm still upset that it's no longer a standard that both them and other developers in general, go with T___T
Somnium986
Member
I recently went back to KZ2 and using the M82 again was nice. Can't wait for the classic weapon pack.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yep, I still have that hip fire mentality when I play KZ SF since I used it SO much in KZ2 since it was effective and awesome to use, since you weren't zooming in ( ADS) it made the battles feel more intense for me.
Hate how it is almost pointless in KZ SF, probably my number 1 dislike of the game and even why I find the general gun combat boring, especially since i never felt that with KZ2 ( and I do still play from time to time)
Hip fire is fine at close range with the appropriate weapons. Do people really expect to be killing people at mid range all the time running around with hip fire?
Grinchy
Banned
Yeah, that's one complaint I will just never understand. The gunplay in this game is arguably one of its greatest strengths. Hip fire works exactly how I thought it should.
test_account
XP-39C²
Today i quit my first match out of rage. I was playing on 'The Wall', and my team was pushed hard. I managed to get out of my base unnoticed, and i got to place a spawn beacon near the enemy base, which were practically empty.
I then captured their beacon, run towards my base and die 5 meters away from the drop point. My team didnt manage to capture it, so the enemy returned it. Then the enemy captured our beacon, ran to the base and scored, then it was like 10 second left. So annoying!
No complain about the game, but i just had to vent that one hehe.
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It comes down to what one prefer the most. Personally i think both aiming system works quite well.
I then captured their beacon, run towards my base and die 5 meters away from the drop point. My team didnt manage to capture it, so the enemy returned it. Then the enemy captured our beacon, ran to the base and scored, then it was like 10 second left. So annoying!
No complain about the game, but i just had to vent that one hehe.
In Killzone 2, hipfire was quite effective, even at medium/longer range. Aiming down sight wasnt really needed in that game. They changed this in Killzone 3 and Shadow Fall, where ADS is pretty much necessary (except at very close range as you mention). I guess its a bit similar to how Motorstorm was changed in Apocalypse, where the driving physics were changed (i mention this since we talked a bit about that yesterday
).It comes down to what one prefer the most. Personally i think both aiming system works quite well.
AgentOtaku
Member
TimeEffect
Member
Man, I'd totally buy a "hug it out" finishing move
super-famicom
Member
Finally unlocked Support King tier 4 last night, now I never have to worry about player card icons again. Funnily enough, the tier 3 icon looks nicer (gold) than tier 4 (blue).
mickcenary
Member
This is actually more or less why I use it more than any other ability. If we win, I can rightfully say, "I was fucking instrumental to that victory".
And while this may be extremely idealist, I feel as if my teammates that actually went for the win and pulled their weight - the GOOD ones - recognize your impact and appreciate your efforts.
Anyone who is half-decent at this game knows that spawn beacons are imperative to win. It's just a shame that they don't suck it up and do it themselves more often, but I'm happy to be that guy; the selfless hero with the most points at the end of the day *kicks loser in the balls*.
test_account
XP-39C²
That is true
I cant say 100% for sure if Killzone 2 had any auto aim, but if it had, it was very subtle. Using ADS in Killzone 2 was also effective indeed, especially on longer ranges.
Outcast to community Was only a mtter of time.
Played a couple of matches of KZ after a weekend off my PS4 and I couldn't hit shit. Still had a blast putting spawns down and setting up turrets bring one of the matches from 0-4 to 4-4.
Also Laser Mine into a big group of HGH to give me a triple kill is always nice.
Was only a mtter of time. Played a couple of matches of KZ after a weekend off my PS4 and I couldn't hit shit. Still had a blast putting spawns down and setting up turrets bring one of the matches from 0-4 to 4-4.
Also Laser Mine into a big group of HGH to give me a triple kill is always nice.
AgentOtaku
Member
Hell yeah
I just feel the combat felt more fluid in KZ2 since you didn't have to ADS so much. Like you didn't have to always zoom in to shoot and effectively kill someone, you could just aim your gun and shoot them, it wasn't super accurate but it was more effective than it is in KZ SF.
Dont get me wrong,hip fire wasn't OP in KZ2 but it was defiantly a much better option than in is in other games. ADS in KZ2 was still needed ( required really) for medium to long range battles which made a nice balance.
Dont get me wrong,hip fire wasn't OP in KZ2 but it was defiantly a much better option than in is in other games. ADS in KZ2 was still needed ( required really) for medium to long range battles which made a nice balance.
mickcenary
Member
*kick you in the balls out of utmost respect*
Dumb question: how do you get the avatars on your player card? Tell you what, I don't appreciate all the non-downloadable downloadable content, GG!
johntown
Banned
Haha welcome back!
We talked to Evilore and he decided to let you back on the forums but your top 20 prize goes to him. ; )
kingdoug87
Member
Go to My Career from main menu and press R1 to cycle to 'Playercard Icons'
weremichael
Member
Had some lag issues this afternoon. Still enjoying Killzone until I get filled with rage (see lag issues).
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, so whats with the lag?
Had it bad in both 24 extended warzone and classic. Players skating around, shots not registering for a full second or more.
Any changes been made to the infrastructure or through patches that would explain things?
I've switched to Battlefield recently because its been playing better (Rush mode), and thats kindof nuts.
Had it bad in both 24 extended warzone and classic. Players skating around, shots not registering for a full second or more.
Any changes been made to the infrastructure or through patches that would explain things?
I've switched to Battlefield recently because its been playing better (Rush mode), and thats kindof nuts.
mickcenary
Member
Much obliged, kingdoug!
Ha. Between this and some being completely unaware of certain weapons even existing, it seems that there's a lot to be uncovered in SF by merely cycling right.
weremichael
Member
I switched over to BF4 today (conquest) and had a similar experience as you. It was the first time I booted up BF4 since launch.
anonymous_abc
Member
Ok so the last few day's I've been replaying some MP for KZ 2/3 and I can't believe how blind people are. How can people still be praising KZ2 saying it's the best MP in the KZ series. KZ SF has everything unlocked apart from attachments and completely upgraded abilities. KZ2 starts you off with a choice of two guns. KZ 3 is the same way you have to play a ton to unlock the weapons and abilities so a new person to the game will have a clear disadvantage to one who has poured in tons of hours.
KZ2's map design is all a wash to my eyes everything is the same color. SF takes great strides in showing the distinct difference between Vektan and Helgan architecture. The structures of the maps seem balanced in 2 but they aren't terrible in SF.
In sum, I just wish people would just stop saying that KZ2 is better than SF.
KZ2's map design is all a wash to my eyes everything is the same color. SF takes great strides in showing the distinct difference between Vektan and Helgan architecture. The structures of the maps seem balanced in 2 but they aren't terrible in SF.
In sum, I just wish people would just stop saying that KZ2 is better than SF.