Kotaku Rumor: Microsoft 6 months behind in game production for X720 [Pastebin = Ban]

I'm gonna guess that Microsoft was anticipating the new line of consoles to launch next year. Sony, at some point in the last 12 months, decided it was going to bring it forward and Microsoft were left twiddling thumbs. They are easily the most reactive, major software/tech company, around at the moment.

Microsoft has beta dev kits out in the wild according to Thuway. That means they've been planning a 2013 launch since before the ps4 announcement at the minimum.
 
I was just thinking how hilarious all these leaks are in light of that one thread we had on here saying something like: "How come Microsoft never has leaks"

Funny stuff.
 
Spend your time focusing on making interactive shows and advertisements, trying to invade everyone's livingroom and forget to make da damn Gaemz Microsoft? Should hire the guy who used to make the donuts in those old Dunkin Donuts commercials atleast he was never late for his shift.
 
totally right ...day 21 they have a show...and they arent ready .....dat rumors

What does one thing have to do with another? You can have a show and not be ready (Sony 2005 E3) and MS is late if the April show was indeed postponed. dat logic.
 
So...Kagari. Was 'abadguy' banned for stating his opinion about Killzone 2? You should be more upfront with your bannings - that way people will learn what not to do in threads.
 
Microsoft has beta dev kits out in the wild according to Thuway. That means they've been planning a 2013 launch since before the ps4 announcement at the minimum.

Yes, but I stand by my original point, how long before? Did they only catch wind of Sony's intentions in the past 10-12 months? The fact that they have barely any partnerships in place and looking quite unstable, reinforces the fact, in my opinion, that they wanted a 2014 launch.
 
Giving more evidence to the fact that Microsoft have become an incredibly reactive company.

Sometimes you have to be reactive when there's potential for revenue.

I don't see them being any more reactive than any other company, and there's a ton of stuff they're doing that is forward thinking and new. Labeling a whole company something because of a few products is kind of lame.
 
So...Kagari. Was 'abadguy' banned for stating his opinion about Killzone 2? You should be more upfront with your bannings - that way people will learn what not to do in threads.

I've seen far worse posted. There has been users who have been calling people idiots for buying Live yet they were not banned. Frankly it's disgusting.

So again, why was he banned?
 
Yes, but I stand by my original point, how long before? Did they only catch wind of Sony's intentions in the past 10-12 months? The fact that they have barely any partnerships in place and looking quite unstable, reinforces the fact, in my opinion, that they wanted a 2014 launch.

How can you tell?


Anyway, I'll repeat what I said a couple of pages back:

As others have already pointed out, you're assuming way too much. There's no chance in the world that Microsoft would be willing to give Nintendo two holidays back when it was still impossible to tell how well the Wii U would do. So no, the whole "Microsoft wanted to wait till 2014" theory has a blatant gaping hole.
 
I don't think anything abadguy said in here was that out of line. Just seemed like another opinion on something, not really hostile or anything like that.
 
I've seen far worse posted. There has been users who have been calling people idiots for buying Live yet they were not banned. Frankly it's disgusting.

So again, why was he banned?

Didn't you read the sticky about posting things in high tense (lol this is only a gaming forum) situations?

Better to just leave certain things out of the discussion than to rabble on looking for attention.
 
So...Kagari. Was 'abadguy' banned for stating his opinion about Killzone 2? You should be more upfront with your bannings - that way people will learn what not to do in threads.

People don't learn though. I've been here 7 years and the next ban is my last one I've been told :)
 
What? They were ready, the problem is that they were late to the party with most of that stuff. Not sure if you meant Kinect when you said "Kin" but with that they seemed to have done just fine.

The problem with Windows Phone and Bing is that they're still new services that are going against competitors with a lot of ground in cut-throat industries.

So, not ready, as well as being inferior to competitors.

Remember Windows Mobile was release 13 years ago. You would think they would of been ready for the modern smartphone revolution.

It is all too common for Microsoft to be late or not ready.
 
Didn't you read the sticky about posting things in high tense (lol this is only a gaming forum) situations?

Better to just leave certain things out of the discussion than to rabble on looking for attention.

So based on that logic, coming into a MS thread and saying lol Kinect, lol live owners are stupid, should also be banned. I've seen umpteen threads derailed because of it yet nothing is done.

So again, mods why was he banned? The guy didn't call names and merely stated his opinion.

I'd like some consistency when it comes to this.
 
So based on that logic, coming into a MS thread and saying lol Kinect, lol live owners are stupid, should also be banned. I've seen umpteen threads derailed because of it yet nothing is done.

So again, mods why was he banned? The guy didn't call names and merely stated his opinion.

I'd like some consistency when it comes to this.

My suggestion is to keep things on topic.
 
So based on that logic, coming into a MS thread and saying lol Kinect, lol live owners are stupid, should also be banned. I've seen umpteen threads derailed because of it yet nothing is done.

So again, mods why was he banned? The guy didn't call names and merely stated his opinion.

I'd like some consistency when it comes to this.


Do you really need to ask this question?

"these are not the droids your looking for" is all I have to say
 
So based on that logic, coming into a MS thread and saying lol Kinect, lol live owners are stupid, should also be banned. I've seen umpteen threads derailed because of it yet nothing is done.

So again, mods why was he banned? The guy didn't call names and merely stated his opinion.

I'd like some consistency when it comes to this.

Well, at least I was banned because of Kinect. More precisely, "tiring Kinect apologism in every thread". Hate it or face the consequences.
 
So based on that logic, coming into a MS thread and saying lol Kinect, lol live owners are stupid, should also be banned. I've seen umpteen threads derailed because of it yet nothing is done.

So again, mods why was he banned? The guy didn't call names and merely stated his opinion.

I'd like some consistency when it comes to this.

Look man, GAF isn't a democracy.
 
So, not ready, as well as being inferior to competitors.

Remember Windows Mobile was release 13 years ago. You would think they would of been ready for the modern smartphone revolution.

It is all too common for Microsoft to be late or not ready.

Totally disagree, but hey it's your opinion not mine.
 
I have a really hard time believing this for either system since were dealing with consoles with a extremely straightforward transition from PC. This just sounds crazy.

I can believe this more for the PS4 than the Durango because we have some pretty concrete specs straight from Sony. The only hurdle they would need to overcome is dealing with unified RAM instead of two separate pools.

As for first party devs, all of their stuff is coded first on PC and then complied to run on the specific console, so the process should be much easier since the architecture is so similar. I can't comment on the Durango at this point because we don't have the concrete system specs, but as long as they are still going with 8GB/32MB ESRAM, then devs shouldn't have much of an issue getting yields up unless:

1. There is an issue with the hardware
2. There is an issue with the dev tools
 
Well, at least I was banned because of Kinect. More precisely, "tiring Kinect apologism in every thread". Hate it or face the consequences.

A shame really. Now every MS thread is short of 1 person who actually liked to discuss MS and thier next console. No doubt he will be replaced by your standard, generic, moron who is completly uneducated in things and does the bender gif, then says lol Kinect.
 
A shame really. Now every MS thread is short of 1 person who actually liked to discuss MS and thier next console. No doubt he will be replaced by your standard, generic, moron who is completly uneducated in things and does the bender gif, then says lol Kinect.
You aren't exactly helping. Don't take it so personally.
 
A shame really. Now every MS thread is short of 1 person who actually liked to discuss MS and thier next console. No doubt he will be replaced by your standard, generic, moron who is completly uneducated in things and does the bender gif, then says lol Kinect.

I think you need to calm down.

If its bothering you that much you can always step away from the thread.
 
That sounds fishy as hell.

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very peculiar!!
 
well even IF this rumor with the 6 months is true, then i guess the other rumor about EA games being exclusive (timed or not idk) to durango is very likely to be true aswell.
 
If its bothering you that much you can always step away from the thread.

Problem is, that's exactly what happens over time and you get the echo chamber effect that is now what many threads typically descend into. It's rough being a fan of anything these days, as cynicism plays so much more favourably.
 
Well, at least I was banned because of Kinect. More precisely, "tiring Kinect apologism in every thread". Hate it or face the consequences.

Why would defending something get you banned but trolling it is fine? Also, if you mention the inconsistency someone will pop in and say 'stop playing the victim' to dismiss you.
 
A shame really. Now every MS thread is short of 1 person who actually liked to discuss MS and thier next console. No doubt he will be replaced by your standard, generic, moron who is completly uneducated in things and does the bender gif, then says lol Kinect.
I know, it sucks. There is only so many fanboys to go around. Now one soldier is down. Console warriors must unite!
 
Yes, but I stand by my original point, how long before? Did they only catch wind of Sony's intentions in the past 10-12 months? The fact that they have barely any partnerships in place and looking quite unstable, reinforces the fact, in my opinion, that they wanted a 2014 launch.

You have to remember everything said in this thread is still just rumors until official confirmation. You can't reinforce a fact that isn't a fact yet.
 
I can believe this more for the PS4 than the Durango because we have some pretty concrete specs straight from Sony. The only hurdle they would need to overcome is dealing with unified RAM instead of two separate pools.

As for first party devs, all of their stuff is coded first on PC and then complied to run on the specific console, so the process should be much easier since the architecture is so similar. I can't comment on the Durango at this point because we don't have the concrete system specs, but as long as they are still going with 8GB/32MB ESRAM, then devs shouldn't have much of an issue getting yields up unless:

1. There is an issue with the hardware
2. There is an issue with the dev tools

I remember last year rumors about Wii U, some developers complained about the dev kit and hardware power. Now with Durango we have not seen any complains about Durango tools or hardware power, most say "both will be similar".
 
It just struck me as well... taking "always online" in the WiiConnect sense of the word, wouldn't a 6 month lag on development be less of a deterrent to just pushing out crapware and letting it continually update behind the scenes as time goes on?

We've already seen developers take more liberties with the launch quality of their games knowing that they could patch from time to time. When you can potentially be rolling out patches as and when, transparently to the user, does that do anything to the incentive to launch a solid product?
 
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