Well I mean before his update he was either buffed to the point where he was too powerful and everyone hated him or he was nerfed and never played. A change needed to be made for sure.
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Well I mean before his update he was either buffed to the point where he was too powerful and everyone hated him or he was nerfed and never played. A change needed to be made for sure.
BreezyLimbo
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Yeah, it's a huuuge freaking nerf to his laning as well.
Also, a new Morde skin is nice and all, but they need to buff him to be viable. Also fuck new Lux skins. Also Swain needs a new skin ._.;
picked the wrong skin lol but omg cant wait for madoka lux
she's so pretty now tho~~
this must be it
but like auto range is not really a midlane nerf, at least not a big one, so i dunno about that
lol yea, his ult must be so satisfying on pbe
that's like the trolliest of builds lolNot much, but yeah. Still building pretty tanky though. Grail/Morello's into Haunting Guise (Liandry's after Frozen Heart), into Frozen Heart with boots. Total package for like 8K gold and u will have close to 200 armor, 100 mresist for mid game. U get double the Liandry's burn with the Frozen Heart aura. Combined with his E and his ult he does tons of damage over a prolonged period of time.
so bad haha
I want a Pool Party Malz skin.
Q: Badminton/Volleyball Net
W: Kiddie pool
E: Semi-inflated beach ball? or just bright blue water molecule
R: Water Hose
Recall: Climbs up water slide then slides down into void
it's an all around nerf that will effect her solo laning if even in a minor way. her autos are deceptively strong vs a lot of opponents in mid who tend to have much shorter ranges. going in to initiate a trade on an annie with a stun being held or 1 spell away from being up is incredibly dangerous while she's standing around autoing you safely.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
You would be a better worker at Riot than Riot Costy.
Not much, but yeah. Still building pretty tanky though. Grail/Morello's into Haunting Guise (Liandry's after Frozen Heart), into Frozen Heart with boots. Total package for like 8K gold and u will have close to 200 armor, 100 mresist for mid game. U get double the Liandry's burn with the Frozen Heart aura. Combined with his E and his ult he does tons of damage over a prolonged period of time.
This is so fucking next level lol
Idk about how strong he his but they def redistributed power. He also can't get as tanky anymore just because the old frozen heart build is bad now and his mana scaling got nerfed in general, but still is really durable. Range on his Q was almost doubled though and his E feels infinitely better. Damage is pretty big on it if you catch them trying to hide in their wave
yeah but do it with syndra :>
yeah, you're probably right
i'm surprised how popular she is mid, she's sixth according to this
I was actually referring to how landing a single target Q actually shows up as a purple crit. You could have been getting magic damage crits all this time if only Karthus had a genderbender waifu skin.
Neko said:
Yep, although this has as much to do with not trusting my mid to properly get the party started. Honestly, lots of supposed easy to gank mids actually aren't.
Until u see it in action!
U might also like my AP Corki build with Grail/Morellos, Luden's Echo, Liandry's, Void/Deathcap, Rylai Scepter and Sorc Shoes.
Disclaimer: I'm a very high low elo player specialized in theorycrafting. Having played Cho mid since Season 2, Morgana sup, Veigar sup and Fiddle support since Season 3 before it got nerfed into oblivion and before they were used in their respective seasons..
lol
like
i like playing champions that are attractive to me and most of the guys in this game are ugly (karthus) or lame (jayce), but even if they have a cool design, they're super boring to play to me (ziggs)
so yea
get me a cute, cool looking guy with fun gameplay and i'm game
so...
rito pls
i hate ad thresh so much lol
the very high low elo thing almost fooled me for a second lolUntil u see it in action!
U might also like my AP Corki build with Grail/Morellos, Luden's Echo, Liandry's, Void/Deathcap, Rylai Scepter and Sorc Shoes.
Disclaimer: I'm a very high low elo player specialized in theorycrafting. Having played Cho mid since Season 2, Morgana sup, Veigar sup and Fiddle support since Season 3 before it got nerfed into oblivion and before they were used in their respective seasons..
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Newt and I will join forces on this one. No Rule 63.
What are some jungler recommendations in this day n ages meta?
Super out of the loop.
The only reason I don't drop IP on Lee Sin is because I don't really have a tanky Jungler owned even though I don't particularly like any of my junglers anyways.
My jungle riven days are overrrr.
Super out of the loop.
The only reason I don't drop IP on Lee Sin is because I don't really have a tanky Jungler owned even though I don't particularly like any of my junglers anyways.
My jungle riven days are overrrr.
SenorArdilla
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Feel the thorns' embrace.
You can buy Skarner and fit into the tank meta and the Black Cleaver meta at the same time. Otherwise...Gragas, Sion, Nunu, Sejuani...although those pick up bans.
MrCookiepants
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So I'm kinda warming up a bit to the ARAM snowball. It synergizes so ridiculously well with Rek'Sai's knockup and makes the AD/tank builds much more viable and fun.
This is the second time you've posted this and the second time I've felt bad for being turned on.
Zky pls.
so yea
get me a cute, cool looking guy with fun gameplay and i'm game
so...
rito pls
This is the second time you've posted this and the second time I've felt bad for being turned on.
Zky pls.
Wolf Akela
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Poro King was the best thing to happen to ARAM. It lets an all tank team actually have a chance, instead of trying their damn best to survive until they get enough items and levels to shrug off the damage. Bringing back Warmogs is just icing on the cake.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Long live the Phantom Jayce.
ehh, he's pretty boring to me, kinda like xerath, tho xerath at least has like an awesome ult
like i enjoy poke like ori or lux or synchan but i like it more when there's other mechanics too, like fishing for stuns/snares with lux/synchan or just the whole ball fun with ori
ziggs and xerath are too pew pew for me
varus was always hot, but i don't like ad mids
pankak pls, hot is hot
that's sexist <3
see, this is just gross
gross is bad
hot is good
ikr?
I hate how if you don't pick a tank in the top lane it's like, "wow, you did awesome early, but you didn't pick a tank, so you lose anyway."
Tank meta sucks. There's nothing fun about 4-5 guys cycling through their abilities 3 times on a guy while he just walks laughs it off.
Tank meta sucks. There's nothing fun about 4-5 guys cycling through their abilities 3 times on a guy while he just walks laughs it off.
Lone_Prodigy
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Mark in ARAM is so good.
As Leona I land one, activate W, Righteous Glory, and Aegis, zoom in, CC everything, win team fight.
Even as Riven I get free harass by zooming in, stunning, and then E+Q out.
As Leona I land one, activate W, Righteous Glory, and Aegis, zoom in, CC everything, win team fight.
Even as Riven I get free harass by zooming in, stunning, and then E+Q out.
I actually don't mind skillshots when they make sense. I don't even mind the Ryze skillshot (not that I play him much).
But I don't think that should be the only definition of skill when characters like Leblanc and Zed and Alaki also have point/clickers on them too.
I guess it varies based on what the average playerbase considered hard to play/use in Ranked? I am not sure.
A balanced somp should be able to itemize/kite pretty well against most tanks if you snowballed. There's stuff like LW and Void Staff anyway. I get stuck playing ADC a lot and most of them can do something if they aren't solo or it's lategame, and I pick stuff like Twitch/Varus/Ashe/MF a lot too.
Wolf Akela
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Ashe feels so gooooood in PBE, though I'm kinda concerned by the damage output. She essentially has a permanent AD amp.
Passive: 110% + (Crit Chance x (1 + Crit Bonus))%
With IE and PD:
110% + (55 x (1 + 0.5))%
110% + (55 x 1.5)%
192%
Essentially, you can see it as either:
- Ashe has a passive 92% Crit Chance, with no IE
- Ashe has a passive +92% AD for her auto attacks, but no crits
Since her passive counts as crits, she essentially gets free +15% ASPD from Frenzy.
Also, I didn't know there was a new end game header. edit: Seems like there are several differences in the Air client. Are these changes live on NA? They're not on OCE.
Passive: 110% + (Crit Chance x (1 + Crit Bonus))%
With IE and PD:
110% + (55 x (1 + 0.5))%
110% + (55 x 1.5)%
192%
Essentially, you can see it as either:
- Ashe has a passive 92% Crit Chance, with no IE
- Ashe has a passive +92% AD for her auto attacks, but no crits
Since her passive counts as crits, she essentially gets free +15% ASPD from Frenzy.
Also, I didn't know there was a new end game header. edit: Seems like there are several differences in the Air client. Are these changes live on NA? They're not on OCE.
Terbinator
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Bronze 2 Nami bringing the support carry.
I know I'm late on this but as for my own champ pool I'd happily take into ranked:
Top: Morg, Zyra, Irelia, Singed.
Mid: Morg, Zyra.
Jungle: Fiddle
Supp: All but Bard and Soraka.
ADC: Draven and Varus.
I know I'm late on this but as for my own champ pool I'd happily take into ranked:
Top: Morg, Zyra, Irelia, Singed.
Mid: Morg, Zyra.
Jungle: Fiddle
Supp: All but Bard and Soraka.
ADC: Draven and Varus.
Have you seen the Korean challenger players on Ziggs? The awareness, kiting, objective control and downright mastery of the champion is on another level.
That person is level 30, not 29.Level 29 ranked teammate in ranked. They fed.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/39076665
They're seeding, which means they may be playing people vastly different from their actual skill level, especially just after getting to level 30.
had a pretty good night, beasted against another team too and 1v1'd d5 lebonk and 1v3'd against their carries and jungler a bit later and killed them all. feeling pretty good :>
synchan and ori, i need to play you girls more
well, it's not that simple
targeted vs skillshot isn't just like "if it's not fair on ryze, why would it be fair on lebonk?". you gotta think about what the full kits are and what classes those champions belong
usually mages have a lot of skillshots because their spells involve little risk so their poke is made unreliable to compensate. skillshots also offer frontliners options to body block incoming damage so they create good gameplay about trying to find ways to poke without hitting the big guys or being punished through mana/cds if you don't.
assassins like lebonk or zed deal their damage in way more risky ways. they both have to be fairly short range to kill people and they both need to dash into fights, often in the middle of the enemy team. they're unreliable by nature because they're always in range of exhaust, crescendo, whatever. you can buy banshees or zhonyas and pretty much nullify them too. this creates good gameplay as enemy teams have to bundle up together to protect their carries, while assassins need to be crafty finding flanks and picking off stragglers rather than front assault attacking people. since assassins should be compensated once they found the right moment, they usually feature targeted spells that guarantee they'll hit the right target because good target selection is critical for them to do their job. you can't bodyblock leblanc or zed because they go through your team, the counterplay is different.
someone that's a hybrid like ahri has a combination of auto target spells (w/r) while she still needs to hit line skillshots like charm that can't go through tanks
there's also the fact that some spells are supposed to exist for certain reasons in particular, like to counter certain types of gameplay. say, lizzy ult is meant to counter mobility in that it's point and click very easy to land. same with ryze's rune prison.
so ryze's q being a skillshot is just part of his kit being pushed more towards a mage side since he's building more ap and being generally more squishy when his passive is down. his q being a skillshot also helps deal with the oppressive nature of his kit toplane.
similar thing they did to veigar, which was ok imo too, specially after talking to boko, even tho he probably needs half a dozen more buffs to be viable again, i think?
so yeah, not every spell needs to be a skillshot, you need to look at full kits and look at the champion class and the function each champion has
xerath is a similar thing, tho i love his ultimate enough to make me want to play the champion sometimes
synchan and ori, i need to play you girls more
well, it's not that simple
targeted vs skillshot isn't just like "if it's not fair on ryze, why would it be fair on lebonk?". you gotta think about what the full kits are and what classes those champions belong
usually mages have a lot of skillshots because their spells involve little risk so their poke is made unreliable to compensate. skillshots also offer frontliners options to body block incoming damage so they create good gameplay about trying to find ways to poke without hitting the big guys or being punished through mana/cds if you don't.
assassins like lebonk or zed deal their damage in way more risky ways. they both have to be fairly short range to kill people and they both need to dash into fights, often in the middle of the enemy team. they're unreliable by nature because they're always in range of exhaust, crescendo, whatever. you can buy banshees or zhonyas and pretty much nullify them too. this creates good gameplay as enemy teams have to bundle up together to protect their carries, while assassins need to be crafty finding flanks and picking off stragglers rather than front assault attacking people. since assassins should be compensated once they found the right moment, they usually feature targeted spells that guarantee they'll hit the right target because good target selection is critical for them to do their job. you can't bodyblock leblanc or zed because they go through your team, the counterplay is different.
someone that's a hybrid like ahri has a combination of auto target spells (w/r) while she still needs to hit line skillshots like charm that can't go through tanks
there's also the fact that some spells are supposed to exist for certain reasons in particular, like to counter certain types of gameplay. say, lizzy ult is meant to counter mobility in that it's point and click very easy to land. same with ryze's rune prison.
so ryze's q being a skillshot is just part of his kit being pushed more towards a mage side since he's building more ap and being generally more squishy when his passive is down. his q being a skillshot also helps deal with the oppressive nature of his kit toplane.
similar thing they did to veigar, which was ok imo too, specially after talking to boko, even tho he probably needs half a dozen more buffs to be viable again, i think?
so yeah, not every spell needs to be a skillshot, you need to look at full kits and look at the champion class and the function each champion has
not saying the champion's easy or whatever, there's a lot of interesting gameplay around his ability to zone through satchel and minefield, but i just find him to be really boring because of how one-dimensional he feels to me
xerath is a similar thing, tho i love his ultimate enough to make me want to play the champion sometimes
That post was more of me saying "take a look at how different a champion feels compared to what you're used to" than a slight at your previous post. I was genuinely surprised at how different he felt.
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