Finally, Tizoc rises from the wasteland.BRONZE 2!
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My ranked matches in this past week have all been wins and the players I had on my team for the most part were friendly =3
CARRY ME TO GOLD, SONA!
Finally, Tizoc rises from the wasteland.BRONZE 2!
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My ranked matches in this past week have all been wins and the players I had on my team for the most part were friendly =3
CARRY ME TO GOLD, SONA!
pretty much, use your q on cooldown for dps and try to be constantly landing stuns to pick people off or for peel. also play very aggressively in lane since your laning is op
but i'm not sure you're quite ready for syndra, dude :>
wait for official patchnotes before panicking but all of those champions are scaling champions that are also super strong early game, and they're all getting pretty small nerfs for how insanely op they areDamn, the Jinx/Sej/Cass nerfs went through. Can't say I'm happy with them but whatever.
they're not "decent", they're absolutely overpowered, and not even like slightly "op". it's not that cassi is "strong", is that she's a total lane bully and she's arguably the best scaling champion in the game at once. same goes for jinx and sejuani (and gragas, who's for some reason escaping nerfs)I dunno, but I hate seeing decent champs get nerfed instead of weak champs getting buffed.
yeah i agree, i think they panicked a bit with all the backlash on her rework. i like this nerf too, winning by sustain isn't what midlane's aboutI love Cass. I always thought they went overboard with her passive and E passive when they reworked her. A Tear is enough to keep her permanently in lane because she gets so much HP and Mana from passives. It's a good nerf.
all hits afaikDoes the Ardent Censer's damage-on-hit last only for one hit, or for all hits in the entire duration?
haven't played him but he seems like a morellos into zhonyas/ludens/deathcap (in that order imo) kind of champion. his mana costs aren't too prohibitive so he should be fine without athenes i think. the scaling on his passive, q and ult are really good and his shield also scales so sounds to me stacking ap is a good idea on him for really easy waveclear/poke and to one shot people with his ult. probably stick lich bane in his build lategame, after void staff.So from playing him on PBE, what are the best items for Ekko?
i wouldn't recommend learning her right now as she has so many bugs that it's just frustrating to play herFirst time use of champs'd risk me losing but with multiple plays I'll get the hang of her :v
liandry's is really bad on anyone that doesn't have dot (and even then it's pretty bad if you're not rumble), so pretty much 100% noLooking at his kit and how it applies slows, would Liandry be good on him? Both his Q and E can activate its stronger passive.
Also the auto attack from his E will apply on-hit effects so maybe Lich Bane be good on him at least as a last item?
liandry's is really bad on anyone that doesn't have dot (and even then it's pretty bad if you're not rumble), so pretty much 100% no
lich bane is probably gonna be good on him but i don't think as a first item. looking at the ratios, mana cost and cd on his q i think it's much better to do a morello rush and then just get a ton of ap
maybe morellos into lich bane, i think that's how ppl are building fizz these days?
that's probably gonna be the build i try first
doubt that you'll get many autos in fights, most of your passive procs will come from q's and e's, not autoattacksWhat about Nashor? Granted he isn't primarly an auto attacker, but if the auto from his E counts towards his passive it can help do deal a good amount of damage in a single burst.
his damage is great imo, but it's like you say, very unreliable. he has really high base and scaling dmg on his main nuke and his ult is kind of insane. he's not leblanc but he has defensive scaling in the shield and healI haven't watched him at all but his damage scaling is shit except on his passive and ult and his shield is looks unreliable so how does he not get completely blown up or outclassed by other assassins?
i mean, you have a 60% slow that you can chain into a really long stun and you also have two dashes (sort of)Passive sounds super broken, it's just procing it that concerns me. I guess if you get both instances of Q on them then E. After that you can just beat the piss out of them cuz they're slowed to shit and you've hopped on a fucking speedboat
yeah, tho the spell has a pretty big delayWhat happens if you cast his W on himself and enemies are in the field's area, will they instantly be stunned?
Wow Ekko scales completely off AP. That's weird.
the passive is just for moving in and out of fights, and chasing.I didn't know the passive had a cd... I guess i just don't get him. I'll have to see him in action. Sitting in a bush and ulting when someone walks up sounds fun though.
i mean, magus is pretty shit right now and only good assassin in the jungle ever has been khazix and that was mostly on his opness than anything. doubt it, damage dealers need levels and farm and you get neither from the jungleThe cooldown is only 3 seconds on his passive, which isn't a long delay, and heck if you're rushing them the 2nd time you apply the auto passive, they're likely dead
OK, crazy idea-
JUNGLE EKKO.
Think about it, you cast the field, you dash in with your E, they get stunned while in the field then you and the other champ waste their ass.
Wow Ekko scales completely off AP. That's weird.
i mean he's a scrawny kid with a magical bat and time travel powerYeah first glance i def interpreted him as an ad thematically
Why does everyone say magus is bad? It's one of the most gold efficient items in the game
It's a good item that's only desirable on one mainstream jungler
I'd say fid and nid are both magey
According to sophisticated mental math, that's 6pm EDT. I shall plan to be online then so I don't end up with an automatically selected amazing team.Alright, 3pm PDT tomorrow.
I didn't realize Cassiopeia needed nerfed. Practically no one (8-10% apparently, but I can remember maybe 1 in recent memory) plays her in bronze/silver. Glancing at lolking, it would appear that she only hovers around 50% or more winrate in platinum/diamond, and worse below that (which is almost weird since you'd expect lower level games to last longer).Damn, the Jinx/Sej/Cass nerfs went through. Can't say I'm happy with them but whatever.
They all have low sustain cost though. Fidd only needs W while Nida and Elise have manaless abilities.I'd say fid and nid are both magey
which other mages should jungle tho?
like i guess jungle kayle and diana are a thing sometimes and you could situationally go magus on amumu or elise if cinderhulk wasn't as op
not sure if riot wants jungle tf or jungle karma to exist
It didn't used to be completely this way, though. She didn't have the spear-mark champion/monster, long-distance pounce stuff for instance.Mana is definitely a gate but i really don't think it's the reason we don't have many mage junglers. Amumu still does just fine as a mana dependent jungler and most people build roa or tear on nid so even in human form mana isn't an issue. It's just that most mages aren't designed to jungle.
Nid is weird because her kit feels so natural in the jungle it's almost strange to think she was never supposed to be there
Then why can her W now affect monsters :V
i think they're removing the empowered w heal so i'm not sure how she'd survive the jungle nowYeah i mean since they allowed her to hunt monsters. Her kit feels so natural for jungling and the hunting monsters seemed bizarre at the time but it feels right now
I'm sure riot did it to create more ap junglers and i wonder if they aren't thinking the same for karma
most champions aren't designed to jungle really, cos adcs/assassins/supports/mages all have trouble in the jungle unless something's overpowered (like old devourer) or they have really strong built-in sustain (fiddle/yi/nidalee)Mana is definitely a gate but i really don't think it's the reason we don't have many mage junglers. Amumu still does just fine as a mana dependent jungler and most people build roa or tear on nid so even in human form mana isn't an issue. It's just that most mages aren't designed to jungle.
Nid is weird because her kit feels so natural in the jungle it's almost strange to think she was never supposed to be there
well winrate doesn't always tell the whole pictureI didn't realize Cassiopeia needed nerfed. Practically no one (8-10% apparently, but I can remember maybe 1 in recent memory) plays her in bronze/silver. Glancing at lolking, it would appear that she only hovers around 50% or more winrate in platinum/diamond, and worse below that (which is almost weird since you'd expect lower level games to last longer).
It may make sense on an abstract level to say she was too strong late game or something, but I would suggest this change may have bad results for her. Time will tell I suppose.
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I am okay with certain champions being strong in 1v1.well winrate doesn't always tell the whole picture
you can look at the pick/ban status she has in competitive to get an idea of how strong she is at the hands of a strong player.
cassi is a cool champion, but she has too much lane presence for how strong she is late. like, sometimes in lane you just gotta flash out from a w because if it landed you're pretty much dead. and she has a ton of sustain thanks to her passive and e passive and how quickly she can stack tear
these nerfs aren't so bad, she'll still be good i think
well, cassi's a monster in laning, dueling and teamfights, and early and lategameI am okay with certain champions being strong in 1v1.
passive nerf will punish players that take bad trades since dmg taken will stick longer, and e nerf probably won't hurt her muchChampionships are cool, but I feel like there are millions more players who are not championship skill level. I am interested in seeing what will happen to Cassiopeia after this, for them.
yup, weird gragas and nunu aren't getting nerfedWhere's the gragas needs?
grossStar Guardian Ashe! :')
A "monster" is a bit of an imprecise term, but I would expect a champion that were a "monster" at laning, dueling, teamfights, early, and lategame (that covers most categories of the game I think?) would have a much higher pick rate and/or a much higher win rate than Cassiopia does now.well, cassi's a monster in laning, dueling and teamfights, and early and lategame
i don't think that's ok
Maybe, but I'm interested in what time will tell, especially for average players.zkylon said:passive nerf will punish players that take bad trades since dmg taken will stick longer, and e nerf probably won't hurt her much
not really, leblanc also has many of these characteristics but she's hard to play as so her winrate is shit. that's what happens to cassi, she's just hard to play, so her winrate isn't heimer levels of insanity despite being pretty opA "monster" is a bit of an imprecise term, but I would expect a champion that were a "monster" at laning, dueling, teamfights, early, and lategame (that covers most categories of the game I think?) would have a much higher pick rate and/or a much higher win rate than Cassiopia does now.
? okMaybe, but I'm interested in what time will tell, especially for average players.
yeah, some champions because of the nuance of their kits are always gonna have low winrates despite how strong they are and if they didn't that probably means there's something wrongWe often cite win rate just cuz it's all we have to go on, but it doesn't always tell the whole story to say the least.
Pretty sure before they removed lb's silence her win rate was like 46 but nobody was arguing whether she was broken
maybe?Is it possible that Ekko will be released this week?