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League of Legends |OT9| Stealing Abilities From Inferior MOBAs since 2009
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WesternHeretic
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i love this idea, but i'm not sure about the implementation
rylais sounds broken af on ori. 40% aoe slow? no way that's releasing...
archangels got super nerfed i feel, building that is gonna be really painful
liandry's still shit, wota still shit
the morellos and athenes changes are weird, i never felt like i needed help building those
i like the ludens change but that item still sucks
roa is weird but i think losing the health it's a good tradeoff for mana hungry champions. it gives a shit ton of mana now, it's crazy
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overall i feel like nothing will really change except some ppl grabbing rylais since it sounds super op.
rylais sounds broken af on ori. 40% aoe slow? no way that's releasing...
archangels got super nerfed i feel, building that is gonna be really painful
liandry's still shit, wota still shit
the morellos and athenes changes are weird, i never felt like i needed help building those
i like the ludens change but that item still sucks
roa is weird but i think losing the health it's a good tradeoff for mana hungry champions. it gives a shit ton of mana now, it's crazy
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overall i feel like nothing will really change except some ppl grabbing rylais since it sounds super op.
Wolf Akela
Member
Yeah good luck catching Ori with a spammable 40% slow.
h4h4. magic resist itemization is in the gutter. what better time than now to buff all ap items?
are you well? are you able to read?
yea and ori's q you might be able to dodge
imagine it on vladimir
i kinda like the idea of rylais finally becoming good but that combination of slow+tankiness+premium ap is pretty scary
Wolf Akela
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I agree with dimb. Liandry isn't often picked up because it lacked burst which seems mandatory on makes for mid game. You know with champs like brand where you had to pick between DoT or burst build? Liandry will provide both now.
New WotA could also a decent pick for spammy AP tanks. I mean, imagine Singed with troll WOTA, Seraph then straight tank. Poison 5 people and you're looking at 35HP/sec true heals minimum.
And oh woooow new Rylai, Liandry and Seraph will be insane on Kog.
New WotA could also a decent pick for spammy AP tanks. I mean, imagine Singed with troll WOTA, Seraph then straight tank. Poison 5 people and you're looking at 35HP/sec true heals minimum.
And oh woooow new Rylai, Liandry and Seraph will be insane on Kog.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
time to see those liandry's rushes lel
yeah, you might be right
i'm not sure if 30 ap will make it "provide burst" but yea now that you mention it, it seems like a solid pickup since it scales a bit better and overall feels better to complete, specially since it got a lot more cost efficient
I can't wait for xerath and kogmaw with these rylais changes...
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So how does the spellvamp affect DoTs, they mention 33% for AoEs but don't mention DoTs~
xypherous mentions dots aren't treated differently for spellvamp
tho the new wota isn't spellvamp so...
no idea
Ghost is Bad
Banned
maximum pain.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
because I mean
theoretically speaking
Swain would never die
ever
I'm talking about that SV, WotA, RoA, Liandry
Everything would heal him, he'd never die, gg.
with his ult alone he'd be healing about 90% of the damage dealtx3
Wolf Akela
Member
Rumble Q probably counts as DoT so 20% slow isn't too bad I guess?
This just makes Mallet look even worse.
This just makes Mallet look even worse.
new hud won't be releasing with 5.12 (which is gonna be next week)
hopefully it'll be done for 5.13
also i hope 5.12 has the new skillshot thingie
adc can rot tho :>
hopefully it'll be done for 5.13
also i hope 5.12 has the new skillshot thingie
yeah i kind of agree, just feels like a weird time to do it
adc can rot tho :>
BreezyLimbo
Banned
what's wrong
40% slow on 3 second cooldown and true damage lifestealing too much for you
you won't be even able to move with swain and his slow stacking
i don't necessarily hate the idea of having a permaslow item, but i think the stats it's bundled with might make it really difficult to balance
i'm guessing making it give less hp is gonna be necessary if they want to keep the silly slows
it's still weird cos you're not gonna want to rush it on most mids, and as a second item it's gonna be less dmg than deathcap/ludens, and soon enough you'll be wanting void staff, etc...
so even if the slow sounds crazy it might still be a situational item because of how strong the extra burst from ludens is
wiki says it's just regular aoe (q deals dmg every 0.5s, but the dmg is applied once every time)
rumble is gonna be so dumb haha
i'm guessing making it give less hp is gonna be necessary if they want to keep the silly slows
it's still weird cos you're not gonna want to rush it on most mids, and as a second item it's gonna be less dmg than deathcap/ludens, and soon enough you'll be wanting void staff, etc...
so even if the slow sounds crazy it might still be a situational item because of how strong the extra burst from ludens is
wiki says it's just regular aoe (q deals dmg every 0.5s, but the dmg is applied once every time)
rumble is gonna be so dumb haha
Replacement.
replaces magus
BreezyLimbo
Banned
thing about rumble is that he's one of the few consistent pro picks that's usually never banned
unless they revert the rylais changes, he'll get nerfed by the end of the year
I guess I should find a really obscure champion to main and pray Riot never looks my way again.
well, champions are (usually) nerfed for a reason, so unless they're completely destroyed (which doesn't happen all that often) they should be ok after nerfs, specially if you main them
like, if rumble is op and gets nerfed to "balanced" or "slightly up" you should be ok because your experience with the champion makes up for it
if you were just riding on the opness then yea you're screwed
like, if rumble is op and gets nerfed to "balanced" or "slightly up" you should be ok because your experience with the champion makes up for it
if you were just riding on the opness then yea you're screwed
I guess I should find a really obscure champion to main and pray Riot never looks my way again.
just main heimerdinger. Consistently one of the top win rates in the game, never banned, never picked, never touched.
killatopak
Gold Member
I can finally use Swain again.
*cries happily*
So much mobility champs so I quit using him. Hopefully, these new changes will make him stronger again.
*cries happily*
So much mobility champs so I quit using him. Hopefully, these new changes will make him stronger again.
Believe me, if I pick up Heimer a few months down the line he'll be changed. I normally pick champions after they were nerfed, so the 'op' factor never really appealed to me. It's just that every time I start liking a certain part of a champions kit that's the part Riot decides they don't like anymore. I haven't really even bothered getting into the numbers of League yet as I'm still focused on Laning and general macro play; I honestly don't bother with patch changes too much because they are irrelevant to me until I can get to mid Plat imo. It's more that the champion feels and plays differently and that's what worries me about certain 'nerfs.'
Drillbreak
Banned
Not sure why Riot is changing AP items when AD items are in a much worse state.
Dreams-Visions
Member
anyone else having trouble logging in?
I got stuck on 0 death timer and tried to restart. now it's just "logging on..."
I got stuck on 0 death timer and tried to restart. now it's just "logging on..."
If that's the case then there are probably about 5-10 champs that are probably more trouble than they are worth atm. Outside of that, if you have a good feel for a champ you can make them work, even if they aren't a traditional pick. Just play what you want and have fun with it.
I'll go down to like 5 champs even that are just a constant struggle right now. Elise (post 15 minute irrelevance), Syndra (bugs for days), and Urgot (just imo but he's still garbage idc what anyone says). As someone who is still learning the game you could throw lee and shaco in there just because you have to work a lot harder with them to be as impactful from the the jungle as a tank would be but I think that's a lot of the fun of those champs so they're still pretty cool imo.
Mostmanlyman
Member
Please don't make ppl play swain again. I hate him so much. How is vlad going to be after the changes to WOTA?
Also any tips on playing against swain, I always get shit on when I play against him.
Also any tips on playing against swain, I always get shit on when I play against him.
Morellonomicon, ignite and mobility
killatopak
Gold Member
Mobility mostly. It's what made me not play him.
Vlad's gonna be so OP.
Updated liandry will put brand to the top. While the same could be said for teemo with nashor's tooth.
Drillbreak
Banned
"Toxic" has got to be one of the worst buzzwords Riot has coined.
It's vague as hell.
It's vague as hell.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
How...toxic of you
It has been used before Riot started using it, but they might have been a large factor in that it has catched on the way it has.
We should be happy "anti-fun" wasn't the one popular buzzword instead.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I'm pretty sure /v/ made it a popular buzzword around the time ME3 came out.
Also, RIOT MATH! 10% of 100 not make 9 bonus armor?
WesternHeretic
Member
You probably have 99.9 armor and they decided to round down because... RIOT PLS.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah that's what I'm thinking...like you'd think that they round up armor...seeing as how I had 100...but they round down for malphites skill?
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