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League of Legends |OT9| Stealing Abilities From Inferior MOBAs since 2009
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
I like the Gangplank remake, actually. And I haven't even mentioned Riot today(Except for their fascination with next X attacks have increases speed). It's all been about that Fiora.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Unless they nerf his ult in someway nothing will change. The utility in teamfights and outplay potential is too huge to give up. That and his inherent safe, poking gameplay makes him very strong right now.
Stone Ocean
Member
Only way I could see being weaker in competitive is if they did some extreme stuff like gutting his damage or removing W cast on towers.
Hell the new "nerfs" are basically buffs because Azir will now get his attack speed passive for free at level 1 while losing some at his 1 item power spike until he's level 8
Hell the new "nerfs" are basically buffs because Azir will now get his attack speed passive for free at level 1 while losing some at his 1 item power spike until he's level 8
Thanks for this, I missed them!
On a 1v1 duel? I don't see many Fioras getting to smack weak spot and weak spot, but in chaos of a teamfight, yeah sure, probably quite a bit.
I just love the ult as a counter engage tool. Take a situation where she casts her ult on the engaging enemy tank. The healing area triggers when either when she gets all 4 weak spots (not particularly likely since it'll but her in a bad position) or when the tank dies. Between her own %health true damage and the ADC wailing on the tank it shouldn't take too long. So shortly after the fight breaks out, and just when the team's damage dealers butt heads directly, BAM, massive healing field. Just love it.
Also, Fiora won't inherently be a good splitpusher.
Great way to end the workday, thanks.
Only read one line so far.. HUD update! Whoa.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Finally @_@ No more having buffs on the left side of the screen whilst being tiny. Long live Runeglaive, the Runeglaive is dead, long live the Devourer.
Guess pirate announcer. I hope there's a way we can keep him permanently. Huh, Dragon/Baron are made known to everyone despite vision. It's almost like they want to make objectives and teamfights revolving around these more of a priority. It's almost as what I said regarding Fiora and teamfights is....truthful.
Stone Ocean
Member
It's mostly a QoL buff but it's a buff yeah
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah this is pretty big for Baron
For Drag it's whatever, you already had the timer thanks to the stupid whoosh effect and the scoreboard
Eve late game nerfs ew. I liked my little inviso jungler. Coupled with the runeglaive nerfs I'm worried about her.
Elise buffs.. which will do almost nothing.
Ryze nerfs.. which will do almost nothing.
Runeglaive nerfs.. which hurt the mage junglers that want the item the most. Bring back magus?
all in all, a pretty typical patch.
Elise buffs.. which will do almost nothing.
Ryze nerfs.. which will do almost nothing.
Runeglaive nerfs.. which hurt the mage junglers that want the item the most. Bring back magus?
all in all, a pretty typical patch.
Tizoc
Member
Yup....
You always had Baron buff timer if you looked at the buff duration, unless the enemy hid with the Baron buff for 3 minutes. Most players didn't bother to time it, but it is easy once you see a single enemy champ with the Baron buff.
That is down right terrifying.
Stone Ocean
Member
So Fiora's Q will have a like 2~3 second downtime depending of how much CDR you get
Neat
Neat
OP.GG always has such neat logos.
Indeed. I'm sad the Nami one had a weird face, but the logos are usually great.
Yeah, using her ult on the enemy frontline tank might be a great course of action for Fiora in teamfights. %Max Health true damage + the heal afterwards has potential. It might be one good thing for Fiora to do in teamfights rather than only being a splitpusher, at least.
killatopak
Gold Member
Hmmm.
To buy fiora or not to buy.
I don't know if the splash update is good or bad. I think I like her old one more. I hope it grows on me.
To buy fiora or not to buy.
I don't know if the splash update is good or bad. I think I like her old one more. I hope it grows on me.
Even tho concussive sux.OP.GG always has such neat logos.
Ambition
Member
She looks uglier now. Reminds me if the old lady in 101 Dalmatians
BreezyLimbo
Banned
They kinda ruined her face. It looks so...bad now.
No, they just gave her a face. She does not look like a supermodel now. I do not have any problem with that.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
There are normal looking faces and then there's having a weird tumblr nose thing going on and oversized lips that look like they're going to eclipse her cheeks.
The art is...meh at best.
Not to mention the overuse of make up.
Screw your cheekbones and fatlips.
I just don't see her as a split pusher anymore. She doesn't have any of the necessary traits.
She's lost her more orthodox attack speed steroid and her free bonus AD, so I'd expect her damage vs. towers is down. She's also lost lots of her damage potential which often required two champions to deal with (that was her principal split pushing trait). She hasn't gained either of the other traits that make for a good split pusher, slipperiness (e.g. Udyr, Tryndamere) or map presence (Shen, Twisted Fate, etc.)
She's much more of a teamfighter now, which is fine by me.
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She gained an escape in Q, and her dueling potential still seems high with her passive and W. One important trait of a split pusher is that you are a good duelist so the enemies are forced to send two+ people to deal with you.
It's hard to speak of how viable she will be, but I can see split pushing happening. A more teamfight oriented bruiser/tanky build might be viable too.
i think at teh very least she-s less of a tower melter, which is fine by me since fuck tryndamere lol
its hard to figure her out from just the text, but sounds like fiora and ze opponentz can now engage in fun duel rather than like it was before in which if fiora was fed u died and if she wasn-t then she was kind of useless i guess
sounds a lot more attractive to me at least, i wish she had gotten some more waveclear so you didnt have to buy hydra
youre the cheekbone
its hard to figure her out from just the text, but sounds like fiora and ze opponentz can now engage in fun duel rather than like it was before in which if fiora was fed u died and if she wasn-t then she was kind of useless i guess
sounds a lot more attractive to me at least, i wish she had gotten some more waveclear so you didnt have to buy hydra
youre the cheekbone
She had no personality before outside of a bad accent, and her visual design never offered anything distinctive.
The dash range is actually really small. It's quite clever, actually. The ability's damage radius extends the offensive range of Lunge while limiting the escape range. If you look at the video, the line is maybe a few champions long. It looks to be about the range of Graves' dash, possibly even shorter.
Also, we need to be careful when labeling her as a duelist. Her gameplay pattern is more about dueling - moving around, in-and-out prolonged fighting, picking your spots...
But a better duelist as the raw sense, in the traditional LoL definition, in the sense that Udyr, Shyvana and company are strong duelists? I honestly don't think so. It's her burst that forced multiple champions to her when split pushing. Unless her passive and ult true damage numbers are stupid high she's going to pump out less damage in a 1v1 with no additional defense to back it up.
And why would anyone want to splitpush with that ultimate? It's a fight winner. What a waste.
PhillipCostigan
Member
we've been civil for a while but we real close to fighting now
BreezyLimbo
Banned
if they take away her accent
then she'll be the shittiest champion in the game
the azir nerf is kind of weird. i sort of don't like them removing the knockup as it was one of the most clear tells that you could insec that person. like, you still have the shield, but since his ult is so wonky and it's never super clear when you're in inseccing range, i kind of wish that had stayed, but i think it's a pretty fair nerf
and if i'm reading it correctly the passive thing is actually like a 20% ms buff at lvl1?
i guess it removes some power from cdr runes and blue buff but the attack speed thing is kind of odd i guess
i wonder if maxing w second would be a good idea now, or at least going like 3 e then max w (or the other way around)
overall i think azir's still gonna be pretty op because of all the utility in his kit. which imo is pretty great since he's super fun to play as. like ori i guess.
i duno im a sort of idiot and played her once and fed
and if i'm reading it correctly the passive thing is actually like a 20% ms buff at lvl1?
i guess it removes some power from cdr runes and blue buff but the attack speed thing is kind of odd i guess
i wonder if maxing w second would be a good idea now, or at least going like 3 e then max w (or the other way around)
overall i think azir's still gonna be pretty op because of all the utility in his kit. which imo is pretty great since he's super fun to play as. like ori i guess.
i duno im a sort of idiot and played her once and fed
I think she's going to be harder to play post re-work. Her Riposte takes way more timing, and it's directional rather than automatic return damage. Her ult is way more difficult to use, and her Q only goes once. She actually has less escape now, which is rough. She can no longer split push.
That said, she seems to be better as far as a 1v1 laner and will actually be useful in a teamfight from a utility standpoint.
That said, she seems to be better as far as a 1v1 laner and will actually be useful in a teamfight from a utility standpoint.
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