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LGBTQIA+ | OT7 | ~First comes love, then comes marriage~
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I'm on the fifth episode of The 100. So far I'm loving it. The acting isn't brilliant by any means but, lets be honest, who's watching it for that when you have such beautiful people on screen 99% of the time? The entire premise of the show is pretty cool, too, although it's definitely a 'stick with it' kinda show.
I also started watching (I'm up to episode 3) but it isn't convincing me, the diversity of the cast seems forced for some reason, and all the stories are so lame... I'm intrigued by the korean girl but that is about it. Eye candy is great of course but we can get such things elsewhere, this is 2015
I want a good story. I kind of have an idea where its going, that everyone is interconnected or something, but it's not working for me.Is the Mexico storyline just going to be some awkward comic relief? It's really jarring going from storylines about murders and drugs to "I'll be your beard!" storyline, it's kind of insulting in a way.
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i wonder if glasgow guy thinks i'm interesting or i'm just the only person that would actually respond even if we rarely chatted but when we do i'm always there. can't tell if my life is stuck in front of a computer screen or what.
it was like 10+ years when i had my gaydar charged up and i was on deviantart.com and one of his photo popped up on the front page. obviously he was high as fucked when the picture was taken but my gaydar was so on point. but anyways. it started with how he tells me about drugs and all the random hot guys he would fuck around with. from married guys and all that.
but some years after his tone change. from drug dick sucking cunt to got a job and watching kill la kill cunt.
but somehow always end up involving him wanting to fuck me or touch me face with his penis or something. strange guy. but still interesting to talk to because he's not me ;P
i degrassi, he emailed me over the weekend. i think we chatted almost a year ago on skype. we actually went to an aol style chatroom online and just fucked around and pretended to be girls to see how many guys we can pull. but email was just talking about what's his summer was like, him on holiday watching anime and listen to music.
i'm more shocked he's still alive TBH.
There's really no point to this post.
it was like 10+ years when i had my gaydar charged up and i was on deviantart.com and one of his photo popped up on the front page. obviously he was high as fucked when the picture was taken but my gaydar was so on point. but anyways. it started with how he tells me about drugs and all the random hot guys he would fuck around with. from married guys and all that.
but some years after his tone change. from drug dick sucking cunt to got a job and watching kill la kill cunt.
but somehow always end up involving him wanting to fuck me or touch me face with his penis or something. strange guy. but still interesting to talk to because he's not me ;P
i degrassi, he emailed me over the weekend. i think we chatted almost a year ago on skype. we actually went to an aol style chatroom online and just fucked around and pretended to be girls to see how many guys we can pull. but email was just talking about what's his summer was like, him on holiday watching anime and listen to music.
i'm more shocked he's still alive TBH.
There's really no point to this post.
Bellamy, Clarke, Lexa and Lincoln (blessed be his abs). That's all I need. Yep the acting isn't its strongest although I really like Abby, Kane and Clarke. I think those three are the best acted characters.
You'll get to see the last two later on the series. Lexa on season 2 I think.
Season 3 needs more Lincoln.
You mean you've never done a little choke play? [ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°]
I like bad boys too
they're lots of fun.Dead Prince
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I like bad boys too
he's not really bad but he sounds like a good person even though drugs and sex. that glamorous life style. smart guy though.
but then whatever you tell me i'll believe you.
I also started watching (I'm up to episode 3) but it isn't convincing me, the diversity of the cast seems forced for some reason, and all the stories are so lame... I'm intrigued by the korean girl but that is about it. Eye candy is great of course but we can get such things elsewhere, this is 2015
Is the Mexico storyline just going to be some awkward comic relief? It's really jarring going from storylines about murders and drugs to "I'll be your beard!" storyline, it's kind of insulting in a way.
Jeez, of all the places to see this being said I wasn't expecting this thread.
Of course the stories are lame, you are only 3 episodes in, keep watching. This is the very definition of a binge series, stopping after 3 episodes because it's a slow burn is stupid.
So it shouldn't be in there at all because you have access to porn? rightEye candy is great of course but we can get such things elsewhere, this is 2015
Keep watching. SPOILERS: It takes a turn in episode 4.
Thinking about it the diversity sticks out like sore thumb because while it has a "multicultural" "multieithnic" "multigendered" etc etc cast they all fall into the most terrible stereotypes that it nullifies any positives you could have about a cast that aims to be diverse. Indian girl with issues about arranged marriage, with everything up to a freaking bollywood number! African kid with issues about poverty and violence. Asian girl of course is a trained martial fighter. I'm surprised there is not a drug trafficker related sub plot with the gay mexican gays...
Except that there totally is! I really hope is just a red herring.
I used to look for representation and inclusion and I also took anything they throw at me, but those times are in the past and I think we should also demand quality, just because you have some gay guys in their undies and a transgirl with a explicit sex scene in a series should not be enough, I don't think its an outlandish complain.
I'll watch a couple of episodes more to make up my mind.
Stereotypes aren't representation. I haven't seen the show and only base that off of your impressions.
Loving the series, but I somewhat agree with this. The non-white characters seem to follow the expected plot. Somewhat hesitant about watching episode 8 because
Lito's storyline, despite doing a pretty good job so far, looks like it is about to nosedive into every gay storyline ever
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My heart can't take such casual mentions of adorableness.
I don't think it's stereotypical in a bad way though because the characters and plotlines are obviously influenced by the cultures they live in.
Lito is gay in an industry that would ruin his career if they ever found out and a culture which promotes manliness, his plot also takes a much different turn later on. It's stereotypically gay because it deals with gay themes? no shit. The show is about different characters and their different experiences, would you prefer it if he was a straight guy? what's wrong with having a gay character with a gay plotline where it is relevant?
Kala's story seems stereotypical at first sure, but that also subverts pretty heavily by the end of the series. It's also subverted in general anyway, because it isn't an arranged marriage and the whole point of her storyline is about SUBVERTING cultural stereotypes and norms, which you'll see if you continue watching.
An African guy struggling with poverty, violence and AIDS, how stereotypical! It's almost like he lives in a povery struck area of Africa, perish the thought!
Sun being a martial artist seems pretty stereotypical sure, except you know, it's a cultural thing. And the point is that her fighting is an outlet for the problems she faces in life in a culture that sees her as "lesser" because she's a woman. Which of course comes up pretty heavily later in her storyline.
You are seeing these cultural differences and crying stereotypes because the characters plotlines are influenced by said cultures.
Would you prefer it if the characters were all just living in America and doing typical American things like in every other US TV show?
I found the cultural aspects of the show absolutely fascinating. Stereotypes are in the show yes, to be played with, subverted, broken, twisted and sometimes played straight if they are relevant. Stereotypes aren't always a bad thing.
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I am interviewing for a couple of internships and one of them is for a small acupuncture clinics group and the other is for a big national health/awareness/research organization. I doubt it matters much as far as what I'll be doing at these places, but I think simply because one is more recognizable I will go with it if I'm offered the position.
I'm sorry but they are in Nairobi, that city is bigger than freaking Chicago. We are talking about lots of people there not exactly struggling with poverty, violence and aids, not in the way the show portrays Nairobi as one big slum anyway. There are millions of low to middle class africans not living in slums and their struggles and lives are always completely ignored in these shows.
I'm glad we wet visibility of trans people in a way no show of this size or budget has ever done, so it pains it falters so much with all these other groups of people. It's obviously thanks to Lana, and that is perfectly fine with me, but it's also a huge missed opportunity, when are we going to get to see Nairobi again in a sci-fi show, or any kind of show for that matter, really? That's why the inclusion of Africa and africans feels hollow, it's almost like they were creating a checklist of "diversity and inclusion" and really didn't bother to portray all these complex and rich scenarios, cultures and people. But I guess is a case of the Wachowskis aiming way too high and missing the point completely as they always do.
I can only take your word for it that it will subvert all these stereotypes, which is why I'm giving the show a chance. Anyway I will take this discussion to the OT to not clutter lettersGAF with blocks of text
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I'm sorry but they are in Nairobi, that city is bigger than freaking Chicago. We are talking about lots of people there not exactly struggling with poverty, violence and aids, not in the way the show portrays Nairobi as one big slum anyway. There are millions of low to middle class africans not living in slums and their struggles and lives are always completely ignored in these shows.
I'm glad we wet visibility of trans people in a way no show of this size or budget has ever done, so it pains it falters so much with all these other groups of people. It's obviously thanks to Lana, and that is perfectly fine with me, but it's also a huge missed opportunity, when are we going to get to see Nairobi again in a sci-fi show, or any kind of show for that matter, really? That's why the inclusion of Africa and africans feels hollow, it's almost like they were creating a checklist of "diversity and inclusion" and really didn't bother to portray all these complex and rich scenarios, cultures and people. But I guess is a case of the Wachowskis aiming way too high and missing the point completely as they always do.
I can only take your word for it that it will subvert all these stereotypes, which is why I'm giving the show a chance. Anyway I will take this discussion to the OT to not clutter lettersGAF with blocks of text
What... Nairobi isn't even shown as being just a giant slum. I'm almost positive we see shots of a fairly decent looking city, and some really nice looking areas in general. The main character however does live in a slum because he runs a meager bus company and spends most of his income on supporting his mother, who is the only character mentioned as suffering from AIDS.
Also it is funny how you say that the issue with the Indian girl is her arranged marriage. Almost like you didn't watch the episode. The whole thing is that it isn't an arranged marriage. Her parents and friends all believe it to be a love marriage. She is doing it because she wants to make her parents happy. But in no way is the marriage arranged.
That was poorly worded on my part, but I don't know the exact term, the thing is that it's not consensual marriage (does that term even exist?) and those stories compose 99% of Bollywood. I'm exaggerating of course
, but it couldn't be more of a stereotype about India if it actually tried.RatskyWatsky
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That was poorly worded on my part, but I don't know the exact term, the thing is that it's not consensual marriage (does that term even exist?) and those stories compose 99% of Bollywood. I'm exaggerating of course
It is consensual, because she is consenting to marry him. Everyone around her believes the loves the dude. Really she's marrying him because he is wealthy, and a superficially perfect match that will make her family happy. Not marrying for love doesn't mean she's being married without her consent. It isn't arranged either. It is freely marrying a man you don't love for the economic benefits, and for the sake of making your family better off.
I sort of know what you are trying to get at. And I don't think a term exists. But it isn't an arranged marriage, nor it is forced on her in anyway.
And I personally don't really watch much Bollywood so I don't see how the story being typical Bollywood is somehow bad or "fake" diversity. If indeed it is traditional Bollywood than it is real diversity that is giving me some good insight into India's popular storytelling culture.
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I think that makes sense. If the internship is purely a "stepping stone" position and you have no career aspirations at either of these companies, going with the name that will be more recognizable or seem more prestigious for future employers will likely help you more. The only reason why I might suggest the opposite is if the smaller group is going to give you better experience and skills you can talk about in interviews that align more closely with your plans for your future career. For your own sake, you also might want to consider how enjoyable the experience will be, but if you're set on this being a position you take to ensure a better future, that "eyes on the prize" mentality might make it all worth it.
Good luck with the interviews!
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Another thing to consider is working at an acupuncture place could look bad to future employers because acupuncture is a pseudoscience.
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Thanks. The bigger place sounds better in every way now that I've had my first conversations about them so I will definitely take the bigger brand if they offer.
I got nervous on the phone when they had me on hold because I started giggling at their hold message saying "Are you struggling with weight loss, stress, hot flashes, staying focused, or maintaining energy?" It was an ad and it made me think that I'll find anti-GMO people there who will make me pull my hair out due to frustration.
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Haven't posted in awhile, but thought I'd drop in and say hello
Your gender?: Male
Your sexual orientation?: Bisexual with a gay preference
Where Are You From?: Seattle Area
Where Do You Live?: Tacoma, WA (South of Seattle)
How Old Are you?: 21
Favorite Type of Music?: Eurobeat, Pop, Rock,
Profession or Career interest?: Graphic Design, Travel
Favorite video game(s)?: Solatorobo, Persona 2: IS and EP, and SMT: Nocturne
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)?: Art (not that good, but enjoy doing it), learning about cultures from around the world, and sewing, but I really haven't done it in a while, but I should since my mom just bought a nice new one.
Your gender?: Male
Your sexual orientation?: Bisexual with a gay preference
Where Are You From?: Seattle Area
Where Do You Live?: Tacoma, WA (South of Seattle)
How Old Are you?: 21
Favorite Type of Music?: Eurobeat, Pop, Rock,
Profession or Career interest?: Graphic Design, Travel
Favorite video game(s)?: Solatorobo, Persona 2: IS and EP, and SMT: Nocturne
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)?: Art (not that good, but enjoy doing it), learning about cultures from around the world, and sewing, but I really haven't done it in a while, but I should since my mom just bought a nice new one.
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Lol I'm visiting in Tacoma right now (at a hotel with my friend). Leaving tomorrow though.
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Haha been in the area since Thursday. Technically, I was in Seatac the first few days but case to Tacoma the rest.
been in the area since Thursday. Technically, I was in Seatac the first few days but case to Tacoma the rest.Aarglefarg
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Now kiss!
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A couple people have heard, but yesterday I came out to my dad. Although coming out implies more assertiveness on my part.
And yet at the same time he asks "If you were feeling this way since you were 16 (25 now), why did you never come to me about it?". Well, what were you expecting?
The 2015 Trial and Tribulation Train just doesn't stop it seems.
And yet at the same time he asks "If you were feeling this way since you were 16 (25 now), why did you never come to me about it?". Well, what were you expecting?
The 2015 Trial and Tribulation Train just doesn't stop it seems.
an apparition.
Could we not do the "disparage the bisexuals for lulz" dance again? It is tiring, exclusionary and seriously your "jokes" aren't getting any better.
That's rough, hopefully he will come around and sooner rather than later.
it was clearly a very light hearted joke
And I'm saying that your joke isn't a very good one and isn't making me feel welcome in this thread. We've been through this before.
Welcome back, Kiba!
Ignore the shitty jokes.
That's a very depressing response from your dad.
Hope things can improve between you again, maybe he will come to his senses again.In this thread, people are either gay or not gay. There is no inbetween. The sooner you understand that the better.
do you want a spoon to stir with? enlighten us to how you think this is true cos that is quite a sweeping statement
Do you really need me to explain? I thought your "What is a bisexual?" joke explains it better than what I ever could. Joking or not, outsiders and newcomers will see that shit and be reluctant to join this community, fearing the same homophobic attitude on here that they face in real-life.
Ok it is not arranged, but it is being forced, subtly, by the power and money of the guy's family and her own family's pressure. I think we are basically agreeing here though.
I kept watching and I'm going to elaborate more in the OP, but in summary even though the cringe worthy lines and bad writing kept coming, the new development of
Vandamn (I love that crazy spelling) becoming the freaking transporter
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Momentai, fellow Bis.
Went to Costa again today and saw the cute guy with the blue ponytail, but he was going on a smoke break and he let down his hair and it was GLORIOUS.
his hair, beard, piercings, smile, everything, hmmmmm.
On a completely unrelated note I'm feeling very lonely today and could do with a cuddle
his hair, beard, piercings, smile, everything, hmmmmm.
On a completely unrelated note I'm feeling very lonely today and could do with a cuddle
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Went to Costa again today and saw the cute guy with the blue ponytail, but he was going on a smoke break and he let down his hair and it was GLORIOUS.
his hair, beard, piercings, smile, everything, hmmmmm.
On a completely unrelated note I'm feeling very lonely today and could do with a cuddle
did we ever find out if he was the author of the anthro porn notebook.
Still a mystery!
:/ that sucks. I hope things get better with your father.
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It's jokes like those that do make me wish bisexuals were more equally represented in the media alongside everyone else. Or at least more exposure to the idea that sexuality is not straightforward or black and white as some people think it is.
For me, I feel like it's a lot harder to be bisexual in some ways than it is to be just straight, gay, or lesbian. As you don't fit the mold of the above mentioned, so your seen with some level of scorn from both gays and straights (not all, but some) as being indescisive about your own sexuality. I have had people on both sides of the fence personally attack me for being bisexual, telling me that you're just going through a phase, you've got one foot still stuck in the metophorical closet and you need to decide who you are, and other such demeaning things.
Sexuality to me is complex, with varying shades of grey. All of us are different and no two people are the same in terms of sexuality. I lean towards the gay end of the spectrum, but that doesn't mean I'm not open to having a relationship with a woman if the chance arises and there is chemistry between us. So please, don't make those joke about how bisexuality doesn't exist as they are not funny in the slightest.
For me, I feel like it's a lot harder to be bisexual in some ways than it is to be just straight, gay, or lesbian. As you don't fit the mold of the above mentioned, so your seen with some level of scorn from both gays and straights (not all, but some) as being indescisive about your own sexuality. I have had people on both sides of the fence personally attack me for being bisexual, telling me that you're just going through a phase, you've got one foot still stuck in the metophorical closet and you need to decide who you are, and other such demeaning things.
Sexuality to me is complex, with varying shades of grey. All of us are different and no two people are the same in terms of sexuality. I lean towards the gay end of the spectrum, but that doesn't mean I'm not open to having a relationship with a woman if the chance arises and there is chemistry between us. So please, don't make those joke about how bisexuality doesn't exist as they are not funny in the slightest.
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