Liferebooted
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Wow, ending spoilers in this thread before the game is even out? lol wow
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Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII |OT| Toriyama's Bizarre Adventure
- Thread starter Kagari
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If I saw Chocolina in somewhere like the Wall Market in FF7 I wouldn't complain. I would complain if it was somewhere stupid like the Ancient Capital. You see Chocolina in places where I'm like, "You do not belong here."
AuthenticM
Member
Is it true that Square is offering the original Japanese voice track as DLC, and free for the first two weeks ?
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
It's true and that's very appreciated I guess. They really listened to fans' feedback. Now... why skipping the superior english VA for JP VA? I intend to play the game FIRST in english, THEN in Japanese through a japanese copy. I'll finish this game tons of time.
AuthenticM
Member
I like most of anglophone cast, but I can't stand Ali Hillis. She's just terrible.
Maybe because my 360 is probably on the verge of dying but the game has performance issues.
I can't compare it to the ps3 version but the load times such, and there is occasional slow down when running around/moving the camera. And this is all in the first area of the game.
I don't give a shit about live anymore so I don't know how the social aspects are (or if they're running yet). But it did detect my 13 and 13-2 saves for the two DLC sets.
I can't compare it to the ps3 version but the load times such, and there is occasional slow down when running around/moving the camera. And this is all in the first area of the game.
I don't give a shit about live anymore so I don't know how the social aspects are (or if they're running yet). But it did detect my 13 and 13-2 saves for the two DLC sets.
I am very sure the game doesn't even reach 30fps.
*blink* Seriously? Are you talking about some aeras of the game or all aeras in general? Are they some aeras where there are noticeable drop in FPS (I would like to know that for the XBOX360 version, but I guess you've been playing it on PS3)?
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I play few other games, but most of them are just fillers to fill the voids left from one S-E release to another one. If S-E was good enough to drop one game every month, that would be enough for me to live with!
Jokes aside, FF is definitely my current favorite series. It's just too close to what I want from gaming in this period of my life. Toriyama, Hamauzu and Kamikokuryo also happen to touch many strings that make me very emotional, so that helps.
I'm an european and I already played Bravely Default. It's a good game, but definitely not great as it seemed from the enthusiasm here on neogaf. It's a niche game for a niche audience and a remake of 16bit jRPGs. 4 Heroes of Light 2.
Thanks to you for being a fan.
XIII games had a fantastic story and backgrounds, definitely the most interesting for me in the whole series. Maybe only Ivalice approaches that level of love for the lore, characters and stories these games narrated. Even if XIII-2 was written with the feet, lore still managed to save most of it. Also Noel and Caius.
And totally fitting too. It tells about this new world arising. I never understood the complain about it not fitting. It's the most fitting evah
All areas in general. I played on the PS3 but supposedly framerate is even worse on 360 according to various accounts.
No, the engine just isn't designed for open areas.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
It's not as bad as ARR on PS3, more like XIII-2, really.
Hmmm, granted, it was already the case in FFXIII (Gran Pulse great plains weren't very enjoyable because of that for me) and FFXIII-2. *sigh* They could have improved this...
What. You ninja'd your post. It said originally, "It's as bad as ARR on PS3, it just sucks."
The game has more technical issues than just that...
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Isn't it the same engine as FFXIII?
SoraanTribal
Member
What exactly was wrong with Gran Pulse on XIII besides the ground texture? It ran smoothly at least.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Yes because I remembered how terrible is ARR. Sometimes 10-15 fps. I think never at 30 lol. XIII-2 and LR are definitely more stable for obvious reasons (less pc on screen).
Toriyama's poorly performing, buggy, probably should never have been made, adventure
Oh boy...
When can we expect reviews to come up? I think you wrote a preview already too, but I'm not very familiar with your work so I don't know where to look for it (sorry).
@SoraanTribal: It didn't run smoothly at all on Xbox 360, I can assure you.
I would hardly call XIII-2 stable. It has quite a bit of technical issues as well.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
The engine is the same for every title but modified for different objectives. ARR has the problem of having to do with an MMORPG style of game, that means alot of NPCs/PCs on screen and lots of actions happening at once. PS3's RAM can't keep up with the pace, results are really bad. PS4 version is very welcome indeed.
More issue with the GPU than the RAM but yes the PS4 version will be superior.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I just didn't have any issues with the framerate in FFXIII and XIII-2 because drops in the framerate wouldn't really ruin the gameplay. In LR however, shit is HEAVILY timing based if you're into maxing out the battle performance... that's when the framerate becomes an issue.
No, that was the original FF14 and it ran terrible even on a high end PC.
The 360 version ran at 20fps in that area.
Review embargo is on Tuesday... which is release day. I wrote a review based on the Japanese version - you can read it here: http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/12/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-import-review/
The demo isn't really representative of the entire game.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
LR Spoiler:
Okay, the whole "I have no emotions" thing was a horrible fucking idea. Lightning just met Fang, the woman she became close friends with in battle and fought side by side with. And what does she do? Nothing. Deer in the goddamn headlights. Bhunivelze taunts Lightning with Serah's soul? Nothing but "SERAH, WAIT" followed by a speech about how "I didn't even care".
Lightning has three modes: Emotionally outbursting, sarcastic, and monotone. That's it. There's nothing else to her character. She doesn't care, and she damn well lets you know it through her monologues. Which begs the question: Why the fuck is she doing any of this? She feels nothing, she cares about no one, she wants nothing... so what could possibly be her motivation?
The problem is: Lightning sure as fuck acts like she has emotions when she gives a motivational speech when she needs to. Or when the plot dictates she emotionally outburst.
This whole thing is so fucking stupid.
Lightning has three modes: Emotionally outbursting, sarcastic, and monotone. That's it. There's nothing else to her character. She doesn't care, and she damn well lets you know it through her monologues. Which begs the question: Why the fuck is she doing any of this? She feels nothing, she cares about no one, she wants nothing... so what could possibly be her motivation?
The problem is: Lightning sure as fuck acts like she has emotions when she gives a motivational speech when she needs to. Or when the plot dictates she emotionally outburst.
This whole thing is so fucking stupid.
Embargo is on release day.
Chance Hale
Member
That opening CG is so damn good though. Demo looked fine, although bits I've seen in videos certainly get a bit rough at points. Don't think it was ever laughable(dog aside), but it is surprisingly coming from the FF series. The amount of details in the various outfits is really impressive if nothing else.
SoraanTribal
Member
Still, saying that it never reaches 30fps is a pretty big statement, particularly considering that I would not have expected the graphical load to have been balanced out in any kind of consistent way.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Game's like most modern games today. 30fps in closed areas, framedrops in open areas. You should be used by now after 7 yrs of gen. I don't know why Kagari is so picky about this when it comes to LR and then forgets to mention the problems that ARR suffers from regarding the framerate. A game that barely runs at 20 on PS3 when you're lucky.
Chance Hale
Member
It'll all be over soon, hopefully this is the last big, non-tales JRPG on the system.
Lol, choppy 30fps is hardly new to this gen. It's been a commonplace thing since the fifth-gen consoles. Always funny watching Goldeneye speedrunners look at the ground to keep the game running fast...
Umm, because this is an LR thread?
Chance Hale
Member
N64/PS1 Era was 15-20 FPS, but those are the dark ages so one can only hope this new gen will be the end of such things. Steady 30 is all I ask for! Would be neat if SE started releasing their JRPGs on the PC as well but I have no real hope for such things.
I play FF14 on PC at 60fps.
Yes but are they also going to offer it as (paid) DLC?
Lol I love that art.
Chance Hale
Member
I would play FFXIV at 60 FPS but the aliasing started getting to me so I settled for locked 30 and 4xSGSSAA. That game's built in FXAA is awful.
The average fps definitely isn't 30 though. It's worse than XIII-2, whose average was 26fps.
That's a 'yes' then.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Ah that's why lol, on PS3 is an unbelievable mess unfortunately.
Any chance the english version will feature any little change about any type of stuff other than the obvious english script? Like vocal songs changed to instrumental or bugs removed or stuff like that?
I don't measure the fps on for ARR PS3, but it's not "20 fps if you're lucky". Rather, it's faster than that barring some intense battles. Considering that it is an MMO, it runs fantastically.
If a single player game on an engine that should have been optimized over the course of six years is running poorly even with shoddy graphics for an end-of-generation game, however, then you have to question the technical competency of the game.
was a mistranslation, because that content/dialogue never existed even in the Japanese version. I believe I made a comment about how that was incorrect before.
If a single player game on an engine that should have been optimized over the course of six years is running poorly even with shoddy graphics for an end-of-generation game, however, then you have to question the technical competency of the game.
What you said in the spoiler
about going to a wedding
You are comparing an MMO to a single player game. But okay.
Don't try and make sense of it. It will just make you more angry.