Linkin Park "What I've Done" (new single omgz)

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In some cases, this album is pretty weak. However, there are some awesome songs on this album as well. "Leave Out All the Rest" is incredible, as is "What I've Done," "Valentine's Day," and "The Little Things Give You Away."

It's not a great CD, but I think the change in style was good. Just a little more Mike Shinoda next time. Okay... a lot more Mike.
 
I've heard some song called"Valentine Day" and well it was alright, but for some reason I really don't like the new style of LP. Leaked album btw, not by me because I need it for myself, so help me out. :)
 
Pretty decent album, I was pleasantly suprised that there were no stupid hybrid rap/rock tracks.. god I hate that shit.
 
zedge said:
Pretty decent album, I was pleasantly suprised that there were no stupid hybrid rap/rock tracks.. god I hate that shit.

So what the hell does their "rapper" do now? Pretend to play an instrument?
 
Ravager61 said:
So what the hell does their "rapper" do now? Pretend to play an instrument?
Raps on 2 tracks, and sings on another.

And just for the record, he's always played an instrument. Guitar/Piano. *Three snaps*
 
Ravager61 said:
So what the hell does their "rapper" do now? Pretend to play an instrument?

He can keep playing the piano and leave the rapping to actual rap groups.

The little rapping there is is bearable. :D
 
Buttonbasher said:
Raps on 2 tracks, and sings on another.

And just for the record, he's always played an instrument. Guitar/Piano. *Three snaps*

I dont mean to come in and troll this thread but if there was ever a band that didnt need 2 guitar players, its Linkin Park.
 
I think I figured out what the exact issue for me not loving the album. It's still got the catchy beats and such but each song is just like the buildup from their previous work, so you just have the buildup, then another verse of buildup and no heavier, energetic main part. Like "In Pieces" where you expect after the 1st verse or even the 2nd to just have the guitars start wailing......and it doesn't.
 
Ravager61 said:
So what the hell does their "rapper" do now? Pretend to play an instrument?

He raps on two songs, sings another, and focused more on production, guitar/keyboard, and backup vocals.

zedge said:
He can keep playing the piano and leave the rapping to actual rap groups.

The little rapping there is is bearable. :D

What's wrong with rap?

Also, he is an "actual rapper". There's nothing wrong with mixing the genres.
 
Well, to back up my hatorade in this thread, I've listened to the album, thoughts:


1. Wake
- Is this a concept album? The riff initially holds on a very basic level of quiet-loud but then you realize it's completely aimless and ends in 25 seconds. This is a bad, if completely pointless start. I admire the ambition, but the album already sounds lost, hopefully they can focus themselves.

2. Given Up
- Definitely a change of style for the band. Reminds me of a couple 90s Helmet tunes, and this song has a very adequate pace, unfortunately accompanied by a structure that ultimately goes the way of their older stuff (meaning KABOOM SCREAM CLIMAX). I'll go as far to say the song is economical in a good the way Faint was (I don't like this song in comparison), but jesus titty f*cking christ are the lyrics awful. Also, this song renders the first even more pointless

3. Leave Out All the Rest
- Well, terrible lyrics, but I'll stop mentioning this because it's nearly expected (I'll only quote incredibly cringe-worthy ones or ones worth a damn). Yet, despite its incredibly predictable structure and it melodic similarity to their catalog, this song rises above 'What I've Done' in terms of what its aiming for. Not great, but certainly a passable radio hit, not sure why this wasn't put ahead of WID.

4. Bleed It Out
- ZOMG RAP, ahhhhh, what is this? I thought this album was about to muster momentum and it makes a mistake of changing styles but leaving conceptualizing in old form. The song does have a better than expected chorus that unfortunately feels wasted and worse because of the crappiness surrounding it.

5. Shadow of the Day
- Obvious from the start, this is the build up ballad (writing this at :10 in)...Now I've listened to the song twice and its apparent to me that the band, if Chester had any lyrical chops, could do okay as a ho-hum, but effective, mid-tempo ballad machine. This proves entirely competent in structure and I can hear some actual growth (the drumming and alterations in riff). Unfortunately, the song is almost 5 minutes because LP is schizo when it comes being economical. They've got the structure, they just needed to streamline it here (I wouldn't be surprised if this song was deliberately made to be 4+ to fit some sort of perception). Also, this song did feed nicely into the next....

6. What I've Done
- No. Let Mercy Come, And Wash Away this song from airwaves. Goooooooo. Seriously though, its not quite as bad as their bad forays into something different, but here it sounds like a bad, confused Audioslave tune (structurally). It feels like their ambition is far ahead of their musical ability at this point. Too long.

7. Hands Held High
- Easily the most interesting song thus far, good start to the second half. Shinoda can flow (although his content is usually rubbish), and it definitely works well with the march drums. The string attachments do not feel forced and the chorus is surprising and pleasing. The processed vocals about 3 minutes in are an effective musical choice, but I think production-wise, they could've done some better alterations, it kind of brings it down. Second best track.

8. No More Sorrow
- Metal? No. But the riff is surprisingly reasonable, but it's regrettably heavy because as soon as Chester pops, it goes to shit. Still, I'll give it credit for the guitar layers (they're cliche-sounding here, but a step forward for the band). The chorus hits okay, but f*ck that climax is terrible. Chester just doesn't have that foot-stomping ability the song goes for, and his proclamations fall so incredibly flat.

9. Valentine's Day
- This song reaffirms the earlier belief that LP is now a better mid-tempo ballad machine. The song is boring, but it feels better and works better then the rock-outs on this album. Its embarrassing in its self-importance, but it creates a nice a build up and it misses a nice opportunity to further introduce a piano line. Still, the pay-off is satisfying because Chester does not reach beyond himself and neither does the band. Note that the structure here is starting to feel a bit redundant.

10. In Between
- A nice backing texture and Shinoda has a voice that reminds me of Paris Hilton. Certainly lacking in ability/range, but when used appropriately to complement the music, it works. He doesn't reach at all, and the song is as servicable and pleasant as I could've hoped for from this band. This album has a much stronger second half thus far and it generally feels like there is a reasonable bit of cohesion here.

11. In Pieces
- Wow, this is a bad choice for Chester. Not only does he mimic the previous song, but he sounds much worse then his partner, Shinoda. The music fares better here though, I was caught by surprise with the Weezer-esque guitar strum, and it works...except when it populates the AWFUL chorus. The band offers some sort of out place solo that doesn't sound like complete shit for two measures and the succumbs to this ill-advised attempt at droning us out with texture and another chorus. This band keeps clipping its own wings. Also, another song that ends too abruptly and without cause.

12. Little Things Give You Away
- Chester does a better job of rising above his lyrics because he manages to not reach past his vocal abilities. The drummer deserves props for attempting something different (although it sounds like a 'this sounds cool but I don't know how to make it work' type of moment during the first drum break). The song has a very nice structure to it however, and once again, if the band works off its palette while making subtle shifts in structure and style, it does a very nice job. The guitar and drum build up is certifiably lovely 4 minutes in and it sounds like a completely different band. If not for Chester's poorly chosen falsetto moment, and the too-early chorus overlap, this part would be perfect. This is the best song on the album.


Overall, on a scale of 1-10, 5 being average, I'd give this album a 4.5 and deem it the best offered by the band. I would probably not choose to put any of these songs on an iPod or on a playlist (maybe the closing track), but for this band, it IS a step in the right direction. With this album, they have found a niche and something they're good at. There is apparent growth here, and while I wouldn't put them in the same sentence as many decent/good bands, they're rising above their peers in the mainstream. The biggest issue however is that if the band decides to go a softer route, they need to improve lyrically and by a good margin. I hope this band gets a good reception for this album because I think with another, they can act as a very, very tolerable act for the mainstream. I felt they had that potential with Hybrid Theory, and if they can find that lyrical growth, they'll be right there. Just drop the sluggish direction the hard-rock took on this album and build~
 
Kevtones said:
Well, to back up my hatorade in this thread, I've listened to the album, thoughts:


1. Wake
- Is this a concept album? The riff initially holds on a very basic level of quiet-loud but then you realize it's completely aimless and ends in 25 seconds. This is a bad, if completely pointless start. I admire the ambition, but the album already sounds lost, hopefully they can focus themselves.

2. Given Up
- Definitely a change of style for the band. Reminds me of a couple 90s Helmet tunes, and this song has a very adequate pace, unfortunately accompanied by a structure that ultimately goes the way of their older stuff (meaning KABOOM SCREAM CLIMAX). I'll go as far to say the song is economical in a good the way Faint was (I don't like this song in comparison), but jesus titty f*cking christ are the lyrics awful. Also, this song renders the first even more pointless

3. Leave Out All the Rest
- Well, terrible lyrics, but I'll stop mentioning this because it's nearly expected (I'll only quote incredibly cringe-worthy ones or ones worth a damn). Yet, despite its incredibly predictable structure and it melodic similarity to their catalog, this song rises above 'What I've Done' in terms of what its aiming for. Not great, but certainly a passable radio hit, not sure why this wasn't put ahead of WID.

4. Bleed It Out
- ZOMG RAP, ahhhhh, what is this? I thought this album was about to muster momentum and it makes a mistake of changing styles but leaving conceptualizing in old form. The song does have a better than expected chorus that unfortunately feels wasted and worse because of the crappiness surrounding it.

5. Shadow of the Day
- Obvious from the start, this is the build up ballad (writing this at :10 in)...Now I've listened to the song twice and its apparent to me that the band, if Chester had any lyrical chops, could do okay as a ho-hum, but effective, mid-tempo ballad machine. This proves entirely competent in structure and I can hear some actual growth (the drumming and alterations in riff). Unfortunately, the song is almost 5 minutes because LP is schizo when it comes being economical. They've got the structure, they just needed to streamline it here (I wouldn't be surprised if this song was deliberately made to be 4+ to fit some sort of perception). Also, this song did feed nicely into the next....

6. What I've Done
- No. Let Mercy Come, And Wash Away this song from airwaves. Goooooooo. Seriously though, its not quite as bad as their bad forays into something different, but here it sounds like a bad, confused Audioslave tune (structurally). It feels like their ambition is far ahead of their musical ability at this point. Too long.

7. Hands Held High
- Easily the most interesting song thus far, good start to the second half. Shinoda can flow (although his content is usually rubbish), and it definitely works well with the march drums. The string attachments do not feel forced and the chorus is surprising and pleasing. The processed vocals about 3 minutes in are an effective musical choice, but I think production-wise, they could've done some better alterations, it kind of brings it down. Second best track.

8. No More Sorrow
- Metal? No. But the riff is surprisingly reasonable, but it's regrettably heavy because as soon as Chester pops, it goes to shit. Still, I'll give it credit for the guitar layers (they're cliche-sounding here, but a step forward for the band). The chorus hits okay, but f*ck that climax is terrible. Chester just doesn't have that foot-stomping ability the song goes for, and his proclamations fall so incredibly flat.

9. Valentine's Day
- This song reaffirms the earlier belief that LP is now a better mid-tempo ballad machine. The song is boring, but it feels better and works better then the rock-outs on this album. Its embarrassing in its self-importance, but it creates a nice a build up and it misses a nice opportunity to further introduce a piano line. Still, the pay-off is satisfying because Chester does not reach beyond himself and neither does the band. Note that the structure here is starting to feel a bit redundant.

10. In Between
- A nice backing texture and Shinoda has a voice that reminds me of Paris Hilton. Certainly lacking in ability/range, but when used appropriately to complement the music, it works. He doesn't reach at all, and the song is as servicable and pleasant as I could've hoped for from this band. This album has a much stronger second half thus far and it generally feels like there is a reasonable bit of cohesion here.

11. In Pieces
- Wow, this is a bad choice for Chester. Not only does he mimic the previous song, but he sounds much worse then his partner, Shinoda. The music fares better here though, I was caught by surprise with the Weezer-esque guitar strum, and it works...except when it populates the AWFUL chorus. The band offers some sort of out place solo that doesn't sound like complete shit for two measures and the succumbs to this ill-advised attempt at droning us out with texture and another chorus. This band keeps clipping its own wings. Also, another song that ends too abruptly and without cause.

12. Little Things Give You Away
- Chester does a better job of rising above his lyrics because he manages to not reach past his vocal abilities. The drummer deserves props for attempting something different (although it sounds like a 'this sounds cool but I don't know how to make it work' type of moment during the first drum break). The song has a very nice structure to it however, and once again, if the band works off its palette while making subtle shifts in structure and style, it does a very nice job. The guitar and drum build up is certifiably lovely 4 minutes in and it sounds like a completely different band. If not for Chester's poorly chosen falsetto moment, and the too-early chorus overlap, this part would be perfect. This is the best song on the album.


Overall, on a scale of 1-10, 5 being average, I'd give this album a 4.5 and deem it the best offered by the band. I would probably not choose to put any of these songs on an iPod or on a playlist (maybe the closing track), but for this band, it IS a step in the right direction. With this album, they have found a niche and something they're good at. There is apparent growth here, and while I wouldn't put them in the same sentence as many decent/good bands, they're rising above their peers in the mainstream. The biggest issue however is that if the band decides to go a softer route, they need to improve lyrically and by a good margin. I hope this band gets a good reception for this album because I think with another, they can act as a very, very tolerable act for the mainstream. I felt they had that potential with Hybrid Theory, and if they can find that lyrical growth, they'll be right there. Just drop the sluggish direction the hard-rock took on this album and build~

I can't quite put my finger on it ... but there is something fundamentally absurd about critically listening to a Linkin Park record.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
I can't quite put my finger on it ... but there is something fundamentally absurd about critically listening to a Linkin Park record.


I spewed a whole lot of hatorade in this thread, so its kind of an integrity type of thing.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
I can't quite put my finger on it ... but there is something fundamentally absurd about critically listening to a Linkin Park record.

Wrong. It's still art.

It may not be RADIOHEAD but it's art.

On that note, they announced the Projekt Revolution bands and dates today.

Linkin Park, My Chemical Romance, Taking Back Sunday, HIM, Placebo and Julien-K on the Main Stage and Mindless Self Indulgence, Saosin, The Bled, Styles of Beyond and Madina Lake on the Revolution Stage

I'm not even a fan of everyone, but it's a really varied lineup, which I like.

Can't wait.

Projekt Revolution Tour Dates
Fri Jul 27 Marysville, CA Sleep Train Amphitheatre
Sat Jul 28 San Bernardino, CA Hyundai Pavilion
Sun Jul 29 Mountain View, CA Shoreline Amphitheatre at Mountain View
Wed Aug 01 Phoenix, AZ Cricket Pavilion
Fri Aug 03 Selma, TX Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
Sat Aug 04 Woodlands, TX The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
Sun Aug 05 Dallas, TX Smirnoff Music Centre
Tue Aug 07 Atlanta, GA HiFi Buys Amphitheatre
Wed Aug 08 Charlotte, NC Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Charlotte
Fri Aug 10 West Palm Beach, FL Sound Advice Amphitheatre
Sat Aug 11 Tampa, FL Ford Amphitheatre
Mon Aug 13 Raleigh, NC Walnut Creek Amphitheatre
Tue Aug 14 Virginia Beach, VA Verizon Wireless Virginia Beach Amphitheater
Wed Aug 15 Wantagh, NY Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
Fri Aug 17 Cuyahoga Falls, OH Blossom Music Center
Sat Aug 18 Darien Center, NY Darien Lake Performing Arts Center
Sun Aug 19 Bristow, VA Nissan Pavilion
Tue Aug 21 Toronto, ON Molson Amphitheatre Wed Aug 22 Clarkston, MI DTE Energy Music Theatre
Fri Aug 24 Mansfield, MA Tweeter Center for the Performing Arts
Sat Aug 25 Camden, NJ Tweeter Center at the Waterfront
Sun Aug 26 Hartford, CT New England Dodge Music Center
Tue Aug 28 Syracuse, NY NY State Fair
Wed Aug 29 Holmdel, NJ PNC Bank Arts Center
Fri Aug 31 Noblesville, IN Verizon Wireless Music Center
Sat Sep 01 Tinley Park, IL First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre
Mon Sep 03 Englewood, CO Coors Amphitheatre
 
wtf is this

eff this, do yourselves a favor and everyone go run out and pick up the new Dinosaur Jr album to cleanse your mind of thise LP filth~
 
Enron said:
wtf is this

eff this, do yourselves a favor and everyone go run out and pick up the new Dinosaur Jr album to cleanse your mind of thise LP filth~

Funny you say that cause I seriously started listening to the new D Jr. album right after my intake of the LP album.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
I can't quite put my finger on it ... but there is something fundamentally absurd about critically listening to a Linkin Park record.

Or spending 30 minutes of a "review" of their album, just to show how smart you are.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Or spending 30 minutes of a "review" of their album, just to show how smart you are.


...? I said a lot of negative things about Linkin Park throughout this thread, whats flawed about backing up my words with an extended thought about the new record? I don't care really if people care what I have to say about it, its more along the lines to show I didn't bash Linkin Park because of their mainstream stigma, or to belittle the tastes of the LP fans @ GAF.

And snakeswithlasers, do you even understand what being critical of an art-form entails? You don't selectively evaluate the merits of specific genres/styles and exclude others from your analysis. Listening to bad records/watching bad films can do wonders to better understand a type of creativity/art-form.
 
I laughed my ass off the first few times I listened to the CD, as there's alot of fairly predictable, whiny, only-the-way-LP-can-do it rap/rock going on here, but come on, ya know that going in. That said, I'm honestly starting to enjoy a few of the songs. It's my guilty pleasure music. I know there's far better, more meaningful stuff out there, but there's something undeniably fun about their stuff. I'd feel like a total jackass playing it with my windows down, but with the tint rolled up and the doors securely locked, I'm not afraid to get a little into it. :D
 
Kevtones said:
...? I said a lot of negative things about Linkin Park throughout this thread, whats flawed about backing up my words with an extended thought about the new record? I don't care really if people care what I have to say about it, its more along the lines to show I didn't bash Linkin Park because of their mainstream stigma, or to belittle the tastes of the LP fans @ GAF.

And snakeswithlasers, do you even understand what being critical of an art-form entails? You don't selectively evaluate the merits of specific genres/styles and exclude others from your analysis. Listening to bad records/watching bad films can do wonders to better understand a type of creativity/art-form.

Blah blah, whatever dude, have fun on your little elitist pedastal. I don't listen to shit to build up a knowledge base so I can be critical. I also don't watch shit to build up a knowledge base so I can be critical. Furthermore, I don't engage in hobbies so that I can fight on the internet - which is what you did by listening to/writing a 'review' for Linkin Park. That's absurd, no matter how you slice it.

I enjoy the music I find aesthetically pleasing, which may or may not be to your taste - however, I'm smart enough to know that once I heard Linkin Park on the radio in the 90s (or early 2000s, I honestly don't remember) they were a shitty band and that I wasn't going to need to critically listen to their records to prove a point on a message board some years later. You didn't learn the same lesson - for shame.

I also don't fundamentally believe that all music is "art" - it's not. And that's my opinion, if you disagree, fine, I don't particularly give a shit. But, I'm not saying that is a bad thing - because some people just want to sit down and listen to the musical equivalent of "MI:3" or "Happy Gilmore" - and that's awesome for them.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
Blah blah, whatever dude, have fun on your little elitist pedastal. I don't listen to shit to build up a knowledge base so I can be critical. I also don't watch shit to build up a knowledge base so I can be critical. Furthermore, I don't engage in hobbies so that I can fight on the internet - which is what you did by listening to/writing a 'review' for Linkin Park. That's absurd, no matter how you slice it.

Integrity is absurd? I'm not going to be an asshole about Linkin Park's shitty music and not back myself up. I'm passionate about music, so please stop bemusing my interest in it as anything but genuine. Oh and stop with the elitist bullshit because...

SnakeswithLasers said:
I enjoy the music I find aesthetically pleasing, which may or may not be to your taste - however, I'm smart enough to know that once I heard Linkin Park on the radio in the 90s (or early 2000s, I honestly don't remember) they were a shitty band and that I wasn't going to need to critically listen to their records to prove a point on a message board some years later. You didn't learn the same lesson - for shame.

...you posted this. Not only do you make a retarded assumption, but your mentality is the same elitist bullshit that makes a lot of great music not make it to the mainstream. Its the same type of bullshit logic, different taste. Read the thread if you want to see my largely negative opinions on LP.

SnakeswithLasers said:
I also don't fundamentally believe that all music is "art" - it's not. And that's my opinion, if you disagree, fine, I don't particularly give a shit. But, I'm not saying that is a bad thing - because some people just want to sit down and listen to the musical equivalent of "MI:3" or "Happy Gilmore" - and that's awesome for them.

You really don't understand the fundamental concepts of art then, cheers.
 
Kevtones said:
Integrity is absurd?
Yes - essentially you're in a religion debate on a message board - you aren't going to "win", and ultimately nobody really gives a shit about YOUR opinion. Just like no one gives a shit about MY opinion.

I'm not going to be an asshole about Linkin Park's shitty music and not back myself up. I'm passionate about music, so please stop bemusing my interest in it as anything but genuine. Oh and stop with the elitist bullshit because...

Look man, everyone reads pitchfork, it doesn't make you special and it doesn't make your opinions more valid. The fact that you feel that you need to take extra time out of your day to "be an asshole about Linkin Park's shitty music" with more than an off-handed comment is absurd.

...you posted this. Not only do you make a retarded assumption, but your mentality is the same elitist bullshit that makes a lot of great music not make it to the mainstream. Its the same type of bullshit logic, different taste. Read the thread if you want to see my largely negative opinions on LP.

Let's get this straight - I'm calling you elitist because you took the time to critically listen to and then retort on a record that you probably wouldn't have given a shit about had someone not mentioned that they liked it. Offhandedly dismissing it (which is what I did) as something you won't like isn't elitist - it's knowing your tastes and saying "LOL! This band is sucks!" and that is what the internet's for - LULZ.

For the record, personally, I don't give a shit what music is popular in the mainstream - I don't care if people are listening to U2, Radiohead, Linkin Park, Man Man or Mastadon on their local radio station. Why do you care so much?

You really don't understand the fundamental concepts of art then, cheers.

Bands like Linkin Park are better described as "crafts" ... not arts. That's my opinion - you don't have to agree, like I said, I don't give a shit.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:

I came into this thread, posted something similar to what you/many others, but I felt the need, because I got attacked, to follow up. If anything, I'm responding to you for the same reason and probably some misunderstanding.

I'm pretty sure we're on the same page (except for the art/craft thing), and in truth, I care about this thread as much as you do (meaning I don't). I probably should've said 'LP got better then really super shitty and they're now just super shitty' instead that extensive write up but I had some time on my hands and needed to unwind with some junk.
 
Kevtones said:
I came into this thread, posted something similar to what you/many others, but I felt the need, because I got attacked, to follow up. If anything, I'm responding to you for the same reason and probably some misunderstanding.

I'm pretty sure we're on the same page (except for the art/craft thing), and in truth, I care about this thread as much as you do (meaning I don't). I probably should've said 'LP got better then really super shitty and they're now just super shitty' instead that extensive write up but I had some time on my hands and needed to unwind with some junk.

Well, to be fair, you're right - I should've read the whole thread. Furthermore, you're also right about another thing - I came in to make an "LOL LINKIN PARK!" joke and saw your review post and said "LOL! LINKIN PARK REVIEW!" instead. -Which I suppose is unfair since we're on the same page.

So, fine - LOL! LINKIN PARK!
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
Well, to be fair, you're right - I should've read the whole thread. Furthermore, you're also right about another thing - I came in to make an "LOL LINKIN PARK!" joke and saw your review post and said "LOL! LINKIN PARK REVIEW!" instead. -Which I suppose is unfair since we're on the same page.

So, fine - LOL! LINKIN PARK!


:lol fair
 
This CD is ****ing shit. I don't know how anyone who is above the age of 14 and not a female can enjoy this. Some songs were LOL worthy... good lord what happened? I used to like this band.
 
Very disappointed with their new release. I expected more songs I could "rock out to." I'm all for evolution and innovation in your music, but LP seems like a completely different band this time around.
 
Razoric said:
This CD is ****ing shit. I don't know how anyone who is above the age of 14 and not a female can enjoy this. Some songs were LOL worthy... good lord what happened? I used to like this band.

you became 15?
 
Brobzoid said:
you became 15?

:lol possibly

Linkin Park has always been one of those guilty pleasure bands for me. Cheesy, catchy, stupid lyrics, decent music, etc. But this album is just complete shit.
 
This album is crap. I don't care for the ballad-fest that is the new LP. They should go back to the roots of Hybrid Theory where they had some energy, not this sleepy sell-out shit.
 
Eggo said:
This album is crap. I don't care for the ballad-fest that is the new LP. They should go back to the roots of Hybrid Theory where they had some energy, not this sleepy sell-out shit.

oh, yes. it's just now they sold out....
 
I like the album. It's a bit different from their older stuff but I like the more mellow feel to most of the songs. There's not enough Shinoda though...
 
Razoric said:
This CD is ****ing shit. I don't know how anyone who is above the age of 14 and not a female can enjoy this

I stopped reading here, as ignorant stupidity gets on my nerves.

Yah mahhhnnnnnnn, they're just not MANLY enough.

Eggo said:
This album is crap. I don't care for the ballad-fest that is the new LP. They should go back to the roots of Hybrid Theory where they had some energy, not this sleepy sell-out shit.

:lol :lol

They "sold out" because they made a mellow album.

Haha. Right.

Cloudy said:
There's not enough Shinoda though...

My only main problem with the album is that there's not enough Mike. If they had just upped the album by two tracks: a third one with him rapping and a second of him singing, it would have been perfect.

As it stands though, they topped Hybrid Theory for me. Not a bad song on the CD, though I get some people don't like mellow stuff, that's fine. I'll continue to appreciate how amazing "The Little Things Give You Away" is.
 
omg rite said:
My only main problem with the album is that there's not enough Mike. If they had just upped the album by two tracks: a third one with him rapping and a second of him singing, it would have been perfect.

As it stands though, they topped Hybrid Theory for me. Not a bad song on the CD, though I get some people don't like mellow stuff, that's fine. I'll continue to appreciate how amazing "The Little Things Give You Away" is.

And a little while I typed that, I found this:
http://www.myspace.com/mintutestomidnight

"No Roads Left", a song that Mike sings that was left off the album for some reason.

I think this would have fit perfectly on the album. No idea why they left it off.
 
Billboard.com said:
Linkin Park's "Minutes to Midnight" crashes in at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 in a big way this week, its 623,000 copies the highest first-week total of 2007, according to Nielsen SoundScan. It's the biggest debut week number since Jay-Z's "Kingdome Come" moved 680,000 last December; only five other titles have moved more than 600,000 in a week in the past two years. Linkin Park's last album, 2003's "Meteora," began at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 with 810,000.

Damn. Nice debut.
 
This is Linkin Park's worst album. I give it a 5/10. The only songs I like are Given Up, Bleed It Out, What I've Done, No More Sorrow, and In Pieces.

Mike Shinoda should have rapped more on his album. He is a critical piece to Linkin Park's success.
 
yeah the new album is fairly lackluster... i was at the jimmy kimmel taping actually and after the cameras stopped they went back to their old hits thankfully.
 
ive been listening to it a lot...and while it lacks the energy from the previous works...im warming up to some of the songs.

i like all the songs besides shadow of the day and the one mike sings on. i like mike rapping not singing. i also miss the dj hahn instrumentals. they could have easily had one besides "wake" .
 
Superman00 said:
I hate the change in style. I like 1 song out of the album. I=

Alright I have given the album a good 3 weeks and I FU@#$ING HATE IT. And I cant express how dissappointing that is to me. I remember the first time I heard them play at Boreal ski resort and they were playing with Slipknot no one knew who they were but they completely blew us away. I fell in love with that sound and I guess I just have to get used to the idea that the brilliance that Hybrid Theory was to me will never be duplicated. They sound like a hundred other bands now they lost so much of what I thought made them different but I guess thats the way it goes.
 
Why release a new album if you dont have anything new to say?
I thought the first album was okay, but thats all they ever did.
They seem to be artistically bankrupt. Oh well, people like familiarity and patterns. This album should suit a certain crowd.
 
Staccat0 said:
Why release a new album if you dont have anything new to say?
I thought the first album was okay, but thats all they ever did.
They seem to be artistically bankrupt. Oh well, people like familiarity and patterns. This album should suit a certain crowd.

What are you even about exactly? Do you think they have a new album or something coming out? "This album should suit a certain crowd." The album is over a year old and sold a crapload. Not sure what you mean.

And as for "why release a new album if you don't have anything new to say" huh? Their lyrics aren't amazing, but they did have new things to say. One of the songs is a political anti-Bush song, another is a song about Hurricane Katrina. That's not "something new to say"?

But on that note, that's a silly thing to say anything. 90% of bands don't have anything new to say, album after album. Why is that needed? Just listen to the music and enjoy it, whatever that music may be. :P
 
omg rite said:
What are you even about exactly? Do you think they have a new album or something coming out? "This album should suit a certain crowd." The album is over a year old and sold a crapload. Not sure what you mean.
Ummm... okay. People bought the shitty thing. I hated it. The first one came from a somewhat interesting place musically. They are shot. They are Creed or Nickelback. They have nothing to say.
omg rite said:
And as for "why release a new album if you don't have anything new to say" huh? Their lyrics aren't amazing, but they did have new things to say. One of the songs is a political anti-Bush song, another is a song about Hurricane Katrina. That's not "something new to say"?
How embarrasing...
An Anti-Bush song? really?
A Katrina song? Yeah America needs art thats pushing those kinda boundaries.
In "artsy fartsy" circles "nothing new to say" means something different than what your getting at.
Lyrics aside, they hevent grown musically either. What is there to follow? Why keep paying money for the same thing over and over?
omg rite said:
But on that note, that's a silly thing to say anything. 90% of bands don't have anything new to say, album after album. Why is that needed? Just listen to the music and enjoy it, whatever that music may be. :P
No.
Music is how I make my living. I'm not interested in boring myself to death. These guys gotta make a living somehow and I know people like this sorta thing, but I'm gonna critisize it. Its part of the artistic process for me.

I don't like 90% of bands and neither do you. Indeed you've never heard them. Why waste my time pretending to enjoy music that bores me when 10% is great?

Don't be stupid. I'll analyze it, give it a fair shot and try to understand it's appeal, but I wont pretend I like it.
 
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