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MCU Nick Fury is middle-aged in the 2010s and still there's no mention of weird serums
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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)
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Chiaroscuro
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It is a case of visual identification. All those chances are relevant but do not impact the way the caracter look is imprinted in fans memory.
Change a carácter look, even like only a change of hair color, and people will complain. Try making Thor a redhead in the movies (as hes is in the Nordic Mithology) and you will see.
Yep, thats exactly how I feel about it. On that note, I would absolutely love for Sam Wilson to take up the Cap mantle after Steven Rogers in the MCU although I feel like they're setting Bucky up for it.
FTFY. No way they're gonna introduce Kamala Khan before Carol Danvers.
Which is how this plays out in every scenario. The classic characters always get higher priority for film adaptations. Turns out all those classic characters are incredibly white, so one or two minor supporting characters get turned into PoC. This pisses off comic book purists, because "you shouldn't make white characters non-white, you should make new non-white characters". Some writer comes up with Kamala Khan as the new Ms. Marvel, but since Carol Danvers is a classic, she needs to get her shot on the big screen first.
We need to collectively keep thinking of new reasons to delay having to portray diverse superheroes on screen, because the execs at the big studios aren't doing that enough already.
Wasn't she Ms. Marvel originally? Unless I'm confused, that's still technically a classic character.
Yes. She was originally Ms. Marvel. And Binary. And Warbird.
(She's had a lot of codenames.)
Comic books, amirite? What do I know.
But seriously, this doesn't change my original point in any way.
No, it doesn't. I agree with you completely.
TDLink
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They have already said they're going to do Carol Danvers but personally I wouldn't have minded if it was Kamala. I wouldn't have minded if the new Spider-Man was Miles instead of Peter either, especially since we've had Peter twice now. Unfortunately that just isn't the way Marvel wants to go with it. But that's a Hollywood problem in general.
As an aside, I'm happy that it's rumoured that Jon Stewart is finally going to get his shot on the big screen as Green Lantern. But it's still bullshit that he has to share that with Hal Jordan and after Hal Jordan already got his big screen movie (which was bad). Hollywood is making baby steps though. It is cool that of the new MCU Avengers team there's only one white guy on it.
For the record, Carol Danvers (And Ms/Captain Marvel in general) isn't really classic in the same way that many of the other heroes Marvel have brought to screen are. The sad fact is that they just don't have that many headlining female heroes so they kind of have to dig down for someone. Since they're doing that already it didn't need to be a white woman but since it's their first female led film to begin with I guess that's how they're mitigating the risk or whatever. I don't agree with those sentiments but it's not surprising that that is how they're looking at it.
Also, I don't mind when minor supporting characters get their race changed. For example, as a Norse god it is a bit silly for Heimdall to be Idris Elba but ultimately it doesn't matter because him being white isn't actually an important part of the character.
For Danny Rand it absolutely is though. For that character especially, being a rich white boy is pretty important both for his stories in New York and K'un-Lun.
I seriously hope so, because the wait for more Netflix Marvel goodness is seriously killing me.
Hot Coldman
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I imagine Inhumans' climax involves New York getting Terrigen gassed. Cue post-credits scene with some New Jersey Muslim family watching it on the news, with a cut to their daughter's empty bedroom with an open window.
CyclopsRock
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I think the idea of new characters taking up the "mantle" is perfectly fine, but is there any examples of it ever happening in films? The closest I can think of is the hint that Gordon-Levitt would take up the Batman mantle, but we never actually saw it happen. It seems to be a very "comic book" thing, a result of them simultaneously wanting to keep alive popular franchises but still wanting to move the series along with significant story lines. Otherwise you get The Walking Dead syndrome where you pick up new character, lose some, they settle, they get attacked, they flee ad nauseam with nothing changing. I get all that, but I don't think that aspect translates very well to the screen, because you don't get a new film every month etc. It could well be that a character is a different race in a reboot, but that's different to taking up a mantle. Maybe it'd work a bit better in something like a TV show like Daredevil. But to me, if they want more minority ethnicites in starring roles, they'd be better off just making new characters (whether that's making whole new characters, or otherwise leveraging characters who've yet to have films or TV shows made of them).
Chiaroscuro
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The Inhumans movie can lead to some great stuff in MCU. But I doubt we will see Kamala on it. Too expensive for a tv series too.
By the way, I Just remember something. Does Marvel has the movie rights to the Krees? I thouht that they, together with the Skrulls, belong to Fantastic Four/Fox. Just like the Shiar with X-men (reason that none were in Guardians). So what does it means to Carol?
George Oscar Bluth II
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The Kree were in Guardians of the Galaxy.
and Agents of Shield
Chiaroscuro
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I realized my mistake as soon as I posted it (Ronan, duh) and was about to edit it, but shame on me.
http://screencrush.com/netflix-luke-cage-cottonmouth-marvel/
Luke Cage will face Cottonmouth in show pilot.
Luke Cage will face Cottonmouth in show pilot.
Funky Papa
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Look at that handsome motherfucker.
peanutbutterlatte
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Local politics? I'd bet my bacon there'll be Civil War related threads throughout Dardevil Series 2/Luke Cage. Makes sense really.
In real life he doesn't have any pores. he's made of an atomically perfect humanoid skin substance.
Sooooo the Jessica Jones episode titles allegedly got figured out by a resourceful Reddit user: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/3hko0a/jessica_jones_episode_titles_are_out/
There are already running times for five episodes, too, ranging between 50 and 54 minutes.
There are already running times for five episodes, too, ranging between 50 and 54 minutes.
So doing the math on Woodard's casting - assuming she's the main antagonist as speculated - puts us at an early summer release for Luke Cage. Vincent D'onofrio was announced in June 2014, show premiered in April 2015 (~10 months). David Tennant was announced in January 2015, show expected to premiere around November 2015 (~10 months). Woodard announced in August 2015, show premiere around June 2015.
I think that's pretty sensible - give Daredevil some breathing room but still keep things on track for the Defenders.
I think that's pretty sensible - give Daredevil some breathing room but still keep things on track for the Defenders.
No ome has posted the pics of the new Daredevil costume? I am shocked!
https://mobile.twitter.com/Daredevil/status/634168013344739329/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/RuhailAli/status/634171288123244545/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Also, I would like to start the Daredevil Season 2 Production thread when this ok.
Edit: Confirmed to be the season 1 costume. Sorry.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Daredevil/status/634168013344739329/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/RuhailAli/status/634171288123244545/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Also, I would like to start the Daredevil Season 2 Production thread when this ok.
Edit: Confirmed to be the season 1 costume. Sorry.
Admiral Woofington
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It's not as blocky but still looks way too silly lol. Sorry but the transition of a bright red devil makes him look like he went to halloween. And this is in a universe with Captain America.
peanutbutterlatte
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... Yeah it wasn't though.
George Oscar Bluth II
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The Darefleck outfit seemed like something that the character wears to shake his leather-clad ass in your face rather than fight crime.
Probably needs to be a brighter shade of red because they'll be doing most of the shooting in low light. I don't think we'll ever see it in conditions like that second picture.
Having said that, there wasn't much of a problem with visibility in Season 1 and he was in all black, so... /shrug.
I like it!
lol no. I like the movie (the DC that is) but the bright red just doesn't work. Love the leather tho', is somewhat functional.
They need to fix the cowl somehow, maybe just adding a chin-strap just like Caps always get better whith it and looks just silly without.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Confirmed where?
DonasaurusRex
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it was on this day i realized i need a "do you smoke crack".gif
come on now let that film die and only speak of the directors cut if you must (is there a version that cuts out the stupid playground fight scene?)
TheGreatDirector
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They black front of the cowl should help the rest of the costume considering how the old one looked.
It have been talked about for days in the Daredevil OT.
And I think the second link is a prototype for Season 1. And it looks ugly.
I agree they should make a costume like the FOX Daredevil costume and just fix the mask.
The movie had it flaws, I am always fucking angry when I see what they did to Bullseye, but the DDs costume was just great. Looked like it is supposed to do.
By the show's costume designer on Twitter. It was from a panel at a convention about, as you might guess, costume design.
giancarlo123x
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New costume is great, will look even better at night since he sticks out so much in the day.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Thanks.
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