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Mass Effect 3: Citadel |OT| The best.

Herlihy Boy

Neo Member
Am I going crazy or was Glyph talking to enemy combat drones? While we were fighting in the archives, I seem to recall him saying something along the lines of "I see you have offensive capabilities. I hope to install offensive capabilities of my own in the future."

Did anyone else hear something like this? I've checked out the whole thread and haven't seen any mention of it. It was pretty funny, so I really hope I'm not imaging it.
 

the chris

Member
Am I going crazy or was Glyph talking to enemy combat drones? While we were fighting in the archives, I seem to recall him saying something along the lines of "I see you have offensive capabilities. I hope to install offensive capabilities of my own in the future."

Did anyone else hear something like this? I've checked out the whole thread and haven't seen any mention of it. It was pretty funny, so I really hope I'm not imaging it.

I remember him also talking to the mercs about how the Alliance military offers really nice benefits.
 

Kurtofan

Member
Am I going crazy or was Glyph talking to enemy combat drones? While we were fighting in the archives, I seem to recall him saying something along the lines of "I see you have offensive capabilities. I hope to install offensive capabilities of my own in the future."

Did anyone else hear something like this? I've checked out the whole thread and haven't seen any mention of it. It was pretty funny, so I really hope I'm not imaging it.

Yeah he did.
 
Am I going crazy or was Glyph talking to enemy combat drones? While we were fighting in the archives, I seem to recall him saying something along the lines of "I see you have offensive capabilities. I hope to install offensive capabilities of my own in the future."

Did anyone else hear something like this? I've checked out the whole thread and haven't seen any mention of it. It was pretty funny, so I really hope I'm not imaging it.

Liara also tells him to lower the enemy's morale at one point.
 

- J - D -

Member
The group photo in the DLC is different compared to what's shown in the trailer, at least for me. In the trailer, Shepard's looking at the camera, but mine has Shep looking at Liara (my Shep's LI). Is it like this for everyone else? Does your LI take the place of Liara in the photo? Haven't had the chance to go back with another Shep profile.

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Bombless

Member
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Mine got screwed up by the famous Mass Effect Neck Twist™. But yeah your LI stands next to you. Maybe if you are a no romance Shep he looks straight at the camera.

edit : Got the soundtrack. The feels man, the feels. Also was listening to it while playing MP, and on a Krogan Warlord game Shepard's Tango came on...It was SO RIGHT.
 
Damn this was amazing DLC. Bravo. I also really love my renegade female shepard. Dat voice fits her so perfectly. Bioware still has it.
 

pmj

Member
How do you start this DLC? Can't find it anywhere in game.. Downloaded part 1 and part 2 is checked off as well.

Go to the citadel. There should be a menu asking if you want to go to the apartment or the regular citadel travel menu.

It could possibly be bugged and not always show up, because I missed it the first time around, and spent a long time searching every area of the citadel for the apartment.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
Damn this was amazing DLC. Bravo. I also really love my renegade female shepard. Dat voice fits her so perfectly. Bioware still has it.

Hopefully they take the same voice actress for "ME4" if they do the whole "Choose a male or female main character" again. Although it might sound weird if another character sounds just like femshep, but isn't femshep.

Go to the citadel. There should be a menu asking if you want to go to the apartment or the regular citadel travel menu.

It could possibly be bugged and not always show up, because I missed it the first time around, and spent a long time searching every area of the citadel for the apartment.

I think you always have to check your emails first in the Normandy to start a DLC mission.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The more I think about it, the more obvious this an epilogue. It's quite weird, but also very deliberate. It's been consciously structured in script to fit the canonical releases of Shepards adventures as we, the gamer, see them. As in, this is literally the "last Shepard adventure ever". Even though though it's not canonically the final Shepard adventure, as she/he still has the rest of the war to go.

The finality of the conversation between the crew at the very, very end of the DLC consciously observes that there's more of the adventure to go in literal sense, but also that this story is over. It's almost retroactive in its function as an epilogue. We've played the ending already. Even though there's more story to go in the game when you play Citadel, it doesn't really matter, because it is the last thing we may play.

Elaborating on Yanick Roy's World War analogy, this is like having a narrative telling the exploits of a band of soldiers come to an end before the war itself ends, and learning in an epilogue or whatever what happened to everyone. Yeah, there's technically more exposition and development of the world and lore and characters that we know and learn of, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how that narrative arc is structured and how it ends.

So yeah, though Shepard and co go off to fight the great Reaper war and make everybody miserable with the shitful ending, it almost doesn't matter, because for the gamer it's a retrospective. Citadel is the now, and how Citadel ends is how this chapter ends. The rest is, as they say, history.

~fin
 

GlamFM

Banned
The group photo in the DLC is different compared to what's shown in the trailer, at least for me. In the trailer, Shepard's looking at the camera, but mine has Shep looking at Liara (my Shep's LI). Is it like this for everyone else? Does your LI take the place of Liara in the photo? Haven't had the chance to go back with another Shep profile.

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My Shep is looking at Miranda and Kasumi is missing - I think it has to do with the bugged "Hanar" Sidequest in ME3.
 

Arjen

Member
The more I think about it, the more obvious this an epilogue. It's quite weird, but also very deliberate. It's been consciously structured in script to fit the canonical releases of Shepards adventures as we, the gamer, see them. As in, this is literally the "last Shepard adventure ever". Even though though it's not canonically the final Shepard adventure, as she/he still has the rest of the war to go.

The finality of the conversation between the crew at the very, very end of the DLC consciously observes that there's more of the adventure to go in literal sense, but also that this story is over. It's almost retroactive in its function as an epilogue. We've played the ending already. Even though there's more story to go in the game when you play Citadel, it doesn't really matter, because it is the last thing we may play.

Elaborating on Yanick Roy's World War analogy, this is like having a narrative telling the exploits of a band of soldiers come to an end before the war itself ends, and learning in an epilogue or whatever what happened to everyone. Yeah, there's technically more exposition and development of the world and lore and characters that we know and learn of, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how that narrative arc is structured and how it ends.

So yeah, though Shepard and co go off to fight the great Reaper war and make everybody miserable with the shitful ending, it almost doesn't matter, because for the gamer it's a retrospective. Citadel is the now, and how Citadel ends is how this chapter ends. The rest is, as they say, history.

~fin

It felt like a post ending DLC to me, and i treated it as such honestly.
I mean the mood is way to light to be during the reaper invasion for me.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
So I went with my 2nd Shepard to do another run and i totally forgot this Shepard was the one where i decided to kill all my ME2 squadmates during the suicide mission and Wrex in ME1.

Man, that party is gonna suck.
 

GlamFM

Banned
So I went with my 2nd Shepard to do another run and i totally forgot this Shepard was the one where i decided to kill all my ME2 squadmates during the suicide mission and Wrex in ME1.

Man, that party is gonna suck.

That reminds me that this DLC party really is the only payoff we got for keeping everybody alive in ME2.

I´m still satisfied. The best thing the DLC did is getting me pumped for more Mass Effect.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It felt like a post ending DLC to me, and i treated it as such honestly.
I mean the mood is way to light to be during the reaper invasion for me.

That's kind of what I mean though. Strictly, to the game canon, it's obviously not post game DLC. But the way it was written, as in the experience and emotion it aims to weigh on the player, is very deliberately an epilogue/send-off to the series.

Like, we've all done the full Mass Effect 3 playthrough and lived through that misery. And even though Citadel takes place before, the actual end of ME3 is reflective. Shepard still goes on to do what he/she does, but it doesn't really matter. The series ends with Citadel. That's the goodbye, and unless you're experiencing the series for the first time, quite literally the last new "Shepard" experience any of us will have. Literally the end, for us.
 
This totally should have been a "One week later..." type thing after the end of the game,
with Shepard surviving
. I know that "spiritually" this is an epilogue, but the fact remains that canonically it's before the last battle begins... Still great though. Glad I played it.
 

GlamFM

Banned
That's kind of what I mean though. Strictly, to the game canon, it's obviously not post game DLC. But the way it was written, as in the experience and emotion it aims to weigh on the player, is very deliberately an epilogue/send-off to the series.

Like, we've all done the full Mass Effect 3 playthrough and lived through that misery. And even though Citadel takes place before, the actual end of ME3 is reflective. Shepard still goes on to do what he/she does, but it doesn't really matter. The series ends with Citadel. That's the goodbye, and unless you're experiencing the series for the first time, quite literally the last new "Shepard" experience any of us will have. Literally the end, for us.

Exactly how I feel.

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Hopefully they take the same voice actress for "ME4" if they do the whole "Choose a male or female main character" again. Although it might sound weird if another character sounds just like femshep, but isn't femshep.
Yeah it would be pretty conflicting lol.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
That's kind of what I mean though. Strictly, to the game canon, it's obviously not post game DLC. But the way it was written, as in the experience and emotion it aims to weigh on the player, is very deliberately an epilogue/send-off to the series.

Like, we've all done the full Mass Effect 3 playthrough and lived through that misery. And even though Citadel takes place before, the actual end of ME3 is reflective. Shepard still goes on to do what he/she does, but it doesn't really matter. The series ends with Citadel. That's the goodbye, and unless you're experiencing the series for the first time, quite literally the last new "Shepard" experience any of us will have. Literally the end, for us.

Well, i'm sure that Bioware would have released this as a real, post-ending, epilogue if it wasn't for the fact that you get sent back to before the Cerberus base mission once you've beaten the game, and of course because Shepard
is dead(unless you got that extra Destroy scene, but then EDI would still be missing).

So they kinda had no choice but to put this in the middle of the war, even if it makes little sense to have Shepard have a party while everybody else in the galaxy is dying or being transformed into Reapers.

Hackett : Shepard! Reapers are attacking Thessia! We need your help or we might lose the whole planet and millions of Asari lives.
Shepard : Sorry sir. I got a
clone to kill
and a party to do. He also touched my hamster. Nobody mess with my hamster.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Well, i'm sure that Bioware would have released this as a real, post-ending, epilogue if it wasn't for the fact that you get sent back to before the Cerberus base mission once you've beaten the game, and of course because Shepard
is dead(unless you got that extra Destroy scene, but then EDI would still be missing).

Sure, but they couldn't do that for the reasons you stated. The two primary complaints directed towards BioWare at Mass Effect 3's conclusion were:

1) This ending is fucking dogshit relative to the canon for a multitude of reasons. It needs to be totally re-written.
2) This ending fails to offer conclusive character and relationship exposition and finality, which is very important as it has been one of the major themes throughout the series.

The only way they'd fix Issue No.1 is if they buckled to fan complaints, admitted the ending was balls, and retconned. They weren't going to do it for either reasons we know or reasons we don't, and instead gave us the Extended Cut to pad it out a bit further and make it marginally less shit.

Issue No.2 was all that was left, and in an isolated bubble it presented a problem: how do you conclusively end characters and relationships when post-game content directly conflicts with Issue No.1? So I guess the question was posed: can we fix Issue No.2 without conforming to fan solutions for Issue No.1?

Citadel was that answer.
 

Arjen

Member
That's kind of what I mean though. Strictly, to the game canon, it's obviously not post game DLC. But the way it was written, as in the experience and emotion it aims to weigh on the player, is very deliberately an epilogue/send-off to the series.

Like, we've all done the full Mass Effect 3 playthrough and lived through that misery. And even though Citadel takes place before, the actual end of ME3 is reflective. Shepard still goes on to do what he/she does, but it doesn't really matter. The series ends with Citadel. That's the goodbye, and unless you're experiencing the series for the first time, quite literally the last new "Shepard" experience any of us will have. Literally the end, for us.

Yeah, i'm sorry it was a pretty long way to say i agree with you.
 

Ixion

Member
Hopefully they take the same voice actress for "ME4" if they do the whole "Choose a male or female main character" again. Although it might sound weird if another character sounds just like femshep, but isn't femshep.

The thing I'm looking forward to the most in ME4 is a new voice actor for the male lead. lol

We need a better voice actor and better facial animations. Then our character will be less of a robot.
 
Seems like every squadmate was involved or at least had some sort of hello, all but
Legion
. Did I miss that or was that overlooked or kept out?
 
How could I forget about the hamster. Omg

"Should we check on my fish? Cause if she's getting rid of all the pets..."
I loved that all Shep's stuff was in that dumpster, even the model ships.

Man, so many great things about this DLC and so much variation in conversations. Also, I invited Grunt, but here is Wrex and Shepard going at it without Grunt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLMAW42KqQc

My favorite line though:

"It's Sovereign's half brother Sluggard! AND HE'S LOOKING FOR SOME PAYBACK!!"
 

Coldsnap

Member
Ha, I've sat down about 5x to play this DLC without being able to find out to initiate it. w/e done with it. Checked email, walked around citadel, landed in citadel.
 
Lady says nothing about being able to dock a a "silver strip"

How about "apartment?"

edit: when choosing where to dock at the Citadel, remember how the main game would let you pick Normandy Docking Bay, Huerta Memorial Hospital, etc? Apartment should be just like that
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I haven't played any of the DLC....how are Leviathan/Omega?

Not ranks, but thoughts:

Leviathan = Well paced with an interesting narrative hook through a decent variety of locations. Balanced between combat and non-combat sequences. Highly lore essential, dealing with the origin of the Reapers. Should have been in the main game.

From Ashes = Short, set entirely in one location, and reliant on tiresome combat. Deals with a lore essential character. Adds said character to your squadmate roster, and like everyone else has his own dialogue trees and commentary during missions. Excellent character too, who provides essential lore insight as well as plenty of humour. Like Leviathan, should have been in the main game.

Omega = Decent length, good idea, mangled execution. I liked it because I thought it had a good handling on otherwise tiresome combat. Relies more on moving you from encounter to encounter instead of "defend against the waves!", the latter of which was a hallmark of ME3's encounter design. Very combat heavy. Story had potential but is simply trying to handle too much in too shorter period of time. BioWare way overhyped numerous qualities of this that failed to deliver. EG: New squadmate just for these missions, a female Turian. Turns out to be a bit shit and only used on one or two actual missions. Only really worth it if you're a big Mass Effect fan. Adds nothing to the lore, nor develops characters.

Citadel = Okay mission made all the more enjoyable by leniency from BioWare in how serious they handled it. Citadel is almost 100% character focused and loaded with symbolism of what the series represents to fans. It is in spirit an epilogue to Commander Shepard, the Mass Effect trilogy, and the cast of squadmates across three games. In execution heavy fan service, and BioWare doing their best to construct an epilogue for a game that can't have one.

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So I keep neglecting to buy any of the ME3 DLC missions for one reason or another.

If I were to only get one, this would be it?

Edit: More or less answered 2 posts above. I'm slow, sorry.
 

Coldsnap

Member
For some reason I cannot download Part 1. Instantly finished on Xbox live but wont show up on my hard drive. Just going to delete it and try to download again for the third time
 

Zen

Banned
Wait did I miss something?
Where did Sherpard know what's her name from? The lady that pretended to be a data specialist? She called her Mia?
.
 

Ixion

Member
For some reason I cannot download Part 1. Instantly finished on Xbox live but wont show up on my hard drive. Just going to delete it and try to download again for the third time

I had the same problem, except with Part 2.

You have to delete both parts and re-download.
 

CyReN

Member
Mass Effect 3: Citadel DLC has froze 4 times now, I've had to replay the same mission over and over again. WHY.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Tali, your voice is so sexy and cute but please
don't ever sing love ballads ever again

The battle section of this DLC is fantastic for the quips (spoilered just in case):

"It's Archangel, how we are supposed to kill him?" "You can't."
"They got a Krogan! Why don't we have oneeee?"
"Somebody kill the Krogan!" "Somebody can try."
"And he's not as handsome as the real Shepard!"
"Glyph! Lower their Morale!" "Attention Cerberus troops, your life expectancy will be reduced to zero in 5 seconds, 5... 4.... 3...."
"I DON'T want to talk about it!"

Not to mention Glyph's various shenanigans, especially the one related to the Elcor.

Also
Shepard's "I should go," his indifference being locked up in a seemingly inescapable pod, Javik's/Tali's/Wrek's "EHEM!", Wrex sulking I am not taking him to the final area, Edi saying "I want to go too... It seems I rarely gets picked :(", Treynor's toothbrush, and Garrus' electronic/boutique shop quips during the battle in the Normandy's CIC area....

God so many awesome moments...

And then
the house party..... the dancing... Zaeed's hitting on Samara, Tali's VROOOM VROOM VROOOM, Liara's debate with James, James' record (grah!, no achievement), SHEPARD WREX GRUNT SHEPARD WREX, Grunt's NO to various people wanting to attend the party, Treynor's not-so-secret history of lusting over EDI, Wrex-Grunt-Javik preparing for battle in the middle of the party, Javik's getting drunk and a hangover...........

God...........

And then it's over :(

Time to finish up Omega and Leviathan, then finishing the game for that Insanity achievement. My heart is heavy though, knowing that the journey has finally, really, come to an end :((

Anyways, if there is one thing that I can really criticize, it's the fact that,
goddamn it Shepard, how many times have you been betrayed right now by persons you are quick to trust? Lair of the Shadow Broker, Arrival, and now this
. Geezz, you can be such an idiot sometimes; anyone could have seen that plot point dozens of lightyears away.
 

Khar

Member
Nice job Bioware. I never thought I'd say that again.

I never truly expected branching endings for ME3 where your decisions all come into play. The hand waving over all of the previous 'big decisions' Shepard made in ME1 and ME2 put paid to that.

What I'd hoped for was something like TNG's All Good Things... -- it's not the best TNG episode but it's one of my favourite endings. Every character had a little moment and it said goodbye to the series perfectly.

Citadel did manage to capture some of that. Especially in the closing moments.

It was much much sillier though! Which I kind of loved.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
The best.

That final scene with Shepard looking at the Normandy and his crew slowly joining him/her with that beautiful soundtrack made me sad because i knew this was the last time we were gonna see these guys. :(

Well, maybe with some hope we might see Liara or Wrex again since they can live for a long time. Still won't be enough.
 
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