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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT| The Man Who Sold The World

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SomTervo

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Well tough luck I guess. Emmerich being in the game isn't a surprise or twist. He's the only one in that age pretty much capable of creating a Metal Gear. It would be like Otacon being in a Solid Snake game.

I know, and I don't disagree that much really. The more important thing is what I said immediately above:

The main thing is, though, I'd still argue that saying
'The mission where you get Huey'
is a far bigger spoiler than simply saying
'Huey is in the game'.
 
I got the message from Kaz about the FOB-related stuff but when I travel back to MB nothing happens and there's nothing in the mission list. Do i have to beat Main Op 21 first?
 

Oriel

Member
Is anyone else finding the inane chat by the guards on MB incredibly annoying? Sometimes they'll literally repeat the same thing after talking.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Regardless of the argument.

I think that people who are overly sensitive to even the little things should avoid this thread, if they were on a media blackout so as to avoid knowing anything about the game, including the stuff Kojima was willing to show off then why would they decide to come inside this thread now before finishing the game? Surely they can hold off considering they are the ones who are sensitive to every bit of little detail, even the ones that are already trivial.

Since this is an OT, it's not a spoiler free thread as spoilers are included in tags and in order to even make the spoiler tag identifiable to others instead of just making an entire post full of tags so that no one even knows where the spoiler is from, some hints and names will be dropped and this is where people who are overly sensitive to such things complain. If you are so intolerant of those stuff then you should be off this thread honestly.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
Starting to think this game is sort of broken.

I cleared Mission 16,
again on Extreme mode. 3 minutes, S Rank by just rushing to the target and grabbing it. Then escaping on horse.

You can do everything you want and have a great time, but you'll be rated highest if you play speedrun mode. I think thats flawed.
 

Arkeband

Banned
I'm loving this game and am playing very methodically and slowly. I love how things slowly start to open up - at first you don't need to play base shuffle with your recruits, then suddenly things expand and it becomes necessary.

One gripe I have so far is that enemy soldiers often don't see me when they clearly should be able to. I'm not THAT camouflaged where they can't see a guy with a horn and an eyepatch sitting on a rock with a machine gun pointed at them.

Maybe they get smarter as I progress, and this is reflected in their rank and skill levels?
 
Good point, and it's true that the guy above says you spoiled his presence. It is there in the OT. However, the guy should be able to come in mid-thread and not see anything substantially spoilery, just there in text. He probably avoided the OP because it would have more info than he wants.

The main thing is, though, I'd still argue that saying
'The mission where you get Huey'
is a far bigger spoiler than simply saying
'Huey is in the game'
.

I know it's a really minor point anyway. Let's let sleeping dogs lie at this point.

You know that the fact that you pushed it so much is the major element that would push someone to realize that there is some major shit happening in this mission though, right?

Being overly cautious and just expecting EVERYTHING to be in spoiler tags is just not going to happen. Everything that is in the OT in which you enter, should be allowed to be written again. First it's the name, now it's the fact that you get him? Come'on.
 

megalowho

Member
Look mate, the character you say I spoiled to you is in the actual OT that you say is spoiler free. In a picture with his voice actor and everything too. The moment you entered this very thread while being on a media blackout was your error, not mine.
Why people double down when called out for spoiling something for a poster instead of just tagging and moving on I'll never know.
 
Anyone who claimed that microtransactions wouldn't affect game design can now revel in how utterly wrong they were. As you're restricted to a max of 3 combat deployments for your soldiers unless you purchase extra FOBs, you'll have a much harder time dealing with enemy upgrades (e.g. helmets, riot suits, claymores, etc) because those types of deployments take about 40 minutes of in-game time. So you'll eliminate a few upgrades, start work on another few, and in the meantime the previous enemy upgrades will reappear.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Yea I felt the sudden spike in difficulty once I got there.

The night guards seemingly have better vision as I got spotted a ton of times on the plant and they're much more aggressive in their pursuit of you. I had one run to my position and climb down a ladder to look into my position. Daylight is insane as they can seemingly see me like a quarter of a mile away.

I know, and I don't disagree that much really. The more important thing is what I said immediately above:

Honestly it's not any different than saying the Side Ops mission to get Huey. There isn't a hard line separating the two so it doesn't really make a difference.
 

aravuus

Member
Holy shit, lots of A/A+ soldiers in the eliminate armored vehicle unit/tank unit side ops. Wish I could redo these and not the prisoner extraction ones.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Starting to think this game is sort of broken.

I cleared Mission 16,
again on Extreme mode. 3 minutes, S Rank by just rushing to the target and grabbing it. Then escaping on horse.

You can do everything you want and have a great time, but you'll be rated highest if you play speedrun mode. I think thats flawed.

Can you just run to the truck and fulton it ?

Also is it possible to fulton vehicles and extract with it similar to containers?
 
So uh, playing on PC

Logged into serves for first time, went to heli to a mission but I can only select to make a FOB, can't back out the menu or select any other items.

When I buy a waters the game just stops, like it's still running but nothing is happening

Any ideas? I literally cannot keep playing the game now and it fucking sucks
 

Jarmel

Banned
So uh, playing on PC

Logged into serves for first time, went to heli to a mission but I can only select to make a FOB, can't back out the menu or select any other items.

When I buy a waters the game just stops, like it's still running but nothing is happening

Any ideas? I literally cannot keep playing the game now and it fucking sucks

Don't play online? The online stuff seems borked netcode-wise.
 
I'm around 33% at about 26 hours played. Here's some thoughts about a few things...

Mission 16 -
I didn't have trouble with this mission. I S ranked it after two tries.I took out the armor that was escorting the truck. The truck then stopped at a camp up the road. The ghost dudes slowly come your way no matter what, even if they don't spot you. I let them get close enough, made a wide belly crawl around them, and fultoned the truck without every having to fight them

Mission 18 -
Wow. Escort missions. Fuck them. Kojima should have learned from TLOS. So I used Quiet and kept repostioning her ahead of me and told her to take people out. The point I almost ragged was when I was extracting and had to load up each freaking kid. Seriously? I had to redo that part alone about 5 times. I somehow got an A rank still.

Mission 20 -
Surprise boss fight! Simple and cool. I almost had it on the first try but I didn't realize he got back up.
 

SomTervo

Member
Regardless of the argument.

I think those people should avoid this thread then if they were on a media blackout so as to avoid knowing anything about the game, including the stuff Kojima was willing to show off then why would they decide to come inside this thread now before finishing the game?

Surely they can hold off considering they are the ones who are sensitive to every bit of little detail, even the ones that are already trivial.

Indeed, I agree generally, and I think a lot of people who were busy bees in the review thread are notably absent from this thread. For example, Screaming Meat. He was posting daily in the trailer and review threads. Nowhere to be seen now. I think a lot of people are taking that approach. But at least 2-3 other black-out folk have come in here because they have issues or important questions that aren't/can't be answered anywhere else.

Regardless of that, they're the minority and we can't cater to them. I do agree with you in principle.

You know that the fact that you pushed it so much is the major element that would push someone to realize that there is some major shit happening in this mission though, right?

Being overly cautious and just expecting EVERYTHING to be in spoiler tags is just not going to happen. Everything that is in the OT in which you enter, should be allowed to be written again. First it's the name, now it's the fact that you get him? Come'on.

Oh, I don't think the mission is that important. I'm just being overly cautious for the sake of people who occasionally pop in who are on media blackout, because I know exactly what it feels like to see even a tidbit of info you don't want to see. As I mentioned above, loads of those people are clearly avoiding the OT like the plague, but at least three have popped in because they have a burning question that hasn't been answered anywhere else (usually about gameplay), and they need an answer.

However, you can't make an OT without breaking a few story eggs. I get all y'all's points. I'll stand down.

Honestly it's not any different than saying the Side Ops mission to get
Huey
. There isn't a hard line separating the two so it doesn't really make a difference.

Ah, that wasn't my point. My point was that we have to "get" him at all. Up until that happened I would have assumed he appeared in some other context, eg just a cutscene intro or something. Not '
we've got a lead on Huey, Cipher are holding him captive - go get him'
. Obviously Baldwin never said that.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Anyone who claimed that microtransactions wouldn't affect game design can now revel in how utterly wrong they were. As you're restricted to a max of 3 combat deployments for your soldiers unless you purchase extra FOBs, you'll have a much harder time dealing with enemy upgrades (e.g. helmets, riot suits, claymores, etc) because those types of deployments take about 40 minutes of in-game time. So you'll eliminate a few upgrades, start work on another few, and in the meantime the previous enemy upgrades will reappear.

This is very true.
The least they could have done is reduce the frequency of those missions or make the helmet/armour counter (headshots/bodyshots required for enemies to wear helment/armour) reset after each of these missions so that you don't have to do them again after 30 mins.
 
Why people double down when called out for spoiling something for a poster instead of just tagging and moving on I'll never know.

Because I stand by what I said, I didn't spoil anything. If a member thinks such a ridiculous small thing is a spoiler, then that person shouldn't have entered the OT of the game in the first place.
 

haikira

Member
Why people double down when called out for spoiling something for a poster instead of just tagging and moving on I'll never know.

I don't think it's really a spoiler stating
Huey
is in the game. I've only tagged his name so I don't catch the wrath next. I see everyone's mentioning Quiet as a companion openly around here, and I'd argue that's more unexpected if you're going in blind.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Because I stand by what I said, I didn't spoil anything. If a member thinks such a ridiculous small thing is a spoiler, then that person shouldn't have entered the OT of the game in the first place.

Now that I think about it, I wrote the exact same thing in almost the exact same manner as you did when I played that mission, except I wrote "when you meet Huey" and that "This game just became the Metal Gear I know". No one was bothered with it really back then.
 

haikira

Member
ARGH!!! Any tips for Mission 31?

the rail gun is so fucking cheap!

Pretty sure
if you hide behind some rock, he'll just keep firing the rail gun, then give up.

EDIT:
Focused on you saying the rail gun, rather than giving general tips. I think other people have you covered now, though I will say this, whenever a reflex time moment happens, just use a gun with regular bullets, not a rocket.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Anyone who claimed that microtransactions wouldn't affect game design can now revel in how utterly wrong they were. As you're restricted to a max of 3 combat deployments for your soldiers unless you purchase extra FOBs, you'll have a much harder time dealing with enemy upgrades (e.g. helmets, riot suits, claymores, etc) because those types of deployments take about 40 minutes of in-game time. So you'll eliminate a few upgrades, start work on another few, and in the meantime the previous enemy upgrades will reappear.

This is absolutely true. For example my Motherbase is maxed out at capacity because I can't expand. That's because the requirements to upgrade the base are insane, partially due to almost all the base upgrades require Fuel. At least four upgrades require Fuel. What the fuck. Where the hell does the game expect me to get 18,000 in Fuel three times over?

The game outright expects you to do the FOB stuff and cough up money to Konami. I have no clue how the reviewers didn't catch how absolutely grindy this game is.
 

SomTervo

Member
I don't think it's really a spoiler stating
Huey
is in the game. I've only tagged his name so I don't catch the wrath next. I see everyone's mentioning Quiet as a companion openly around here, and I'd argue that's more unexpected if you're going in blind.

I'm guilty of this.

But I've been careful not to spoil any of her backstory or how she appears/what mission she's in, however. (That's what Baldwin did re
Huey
, that's what I was taking issue with.) I've just been discussing Q as a game mechanic.
 

ryushe

Member
Probably been asked before, but if I've already completed a mission but decide to replay it again to complete the secondary mission tasks but extract from the mission before I complete the "main" task, will my progress still count completing the secondary stuff?
 

J-Skee

Member
Are there any other cutscenes that are just as missable as the
Paz cutscene in the Medical area of Mother Base
? Please just give the mission number associated with it. If it's too spoiler, I rather not know at all.
 

SomTervo

Member
Are there any other cutscenes that are just as missiable as the
Paz cutscene in the Medical area of Mother Base
? Please just give the mission number associated with it. If it's too spoiler, I rather not know at all.

This would be great.
 

Alienous

Member
Also -

Why is it that when you start a mission all your guns are loaded with clips/mags missing 1 bullet

It's how weapons work, I think.

A bullet held in the chamber, then however many bullets the magazine can hold. So if you loaded a gun from empty, like I presume is done before the mission, you'll just have however many bullets are in the magazine.
 
I was fighting a bear yesterday and you guys know how dd sticks close to you no matter what. So when I push square to dive out the way I hear a loud whimper and see him fly. I was so sad but extracted the fucker to interrogate him.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Question regarding Quiet:
does she become a buddy through natural progression of the main missions, or simply through grinding? She hasn't left her cell for me apart from one additional cutscene.
 

nOoblet16

Member
This is absolutely true. For example my Motherbase is maxed out at capacity because I can't expand. That's because the requirements to upgrade the base are insane, partially due to almost all the base upgrades require Fuel. At least four upgrades require Fuel. What the fuck. Where the hell does the game expect me to get 18,000 in Fuel three times over?

The game outright expects you to do the FOB stuff and cough up money to Konami. I have no clue how the reviewers didn't catch how absolutely grindy this game is.

The servers were not up and they thought you could build many FOBs.
There's also a lot to do with hype, reviewers give in to it and do not introspect what they have just witnessed. This is why the repeats, rehashes and other materials never got criticised even in the tiniest form from the majority of the reviewers...that in my opinion is very disingenuous as it does not really "review" the game but just give your first impressions until a certain point in the game.
 
It's how weapons work, I think.

A bullet held in the chamber, then however many bullets the magazine can hold. So if you loaded a gun from empty, like I presume is done before the mission, you'll just have however many bullets are in the magazine.

That detail though

This game
 

DSmalls84

Member
Do you have to complete all of the additional mission objectives that unlock at the same time, or can you do them one a time like the side ops?
 

nOoblet16

Member
You can throw them at longer distance by holding R2, same applies to decoy disks, and I'm guessing grenades (never used them)

Ofcourse I know that, what I meant was that the magazine needs to land quite close to the enemy for them to notice, usually somewhere within 10 m from their location (and I say 10m generously).
 
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