The Gyro aiming + lock-on reminds me more of the Wii controls for the Prime series. It's really neat.
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Metroid Prime Blast Ball |OT| Ridley is too big to fit in the BlastBall arena
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The Gyro aiming + lock-on reminds me more of the Wii controls for the Prime series. It's really neat.
I gotta say, Blast Ball didn't impress me much unfortunately, but the 'Training' demo for the actual Federation Force part actually was pretty fun. Plays like Metroid Prime, fighting Space Pirates was some fun actual combat.
Cautiously optimistic the main game will be redeemable barring the controversial art style.
Cautiously optimistic the main game will be redeemable barring the controversial art style.
Mr. Pointy
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Blast Ball itself is pretty fun so far. It feels slow in the beginning, but once you get into the groove of it, it clicks a bit more. When you start sidestepping around it's not too bad. I think the base movement could be increased a little bit. It ultimately feels like it's trying to be Metroid Prime 3 does Rocket League.
Online play was decent, spamming d-pad voices is fun, sometimes my shots didn't feel like they were pushing the ball but that could be lag.
I don't know if I'd see myself sticking with it for a long while, but I think there's potential.
The Federation Force training was okay. It plays like Prime 3. I'm not feeling intrigued by it.
The chibi art direction is still garbage. I can live with it to an extent in Blast Ball, but I can't take FedForce seriously. If NLG couldn't get FF to look like Prime 1/2/3 on the 3DS then they should have scrapped what they got and rebuilt it for NX handheld.
If I can continue playing Blast Ball for free like this, I could keep coming back to it, especially if NLG keep patching in gameplay tweaks.
Online play was decent, spamming d-pad voices is fun, sometimes my shots didn't feel like they were pushing the ball but that could be lag.
I don't know if I'd see myself sticking with it for a long while, but I think there's potential.
The Federation Force training was okay. It plays like Prime 3. I'm not feeling intrigued by it.
The chibi art direction is still garbage. I can live with it to an extent in Blast Ball, but I can't take FedForce seriously. If NLG couldn't get FF to look like Prime 1/2/3 on the 3DS then they should have scrapped what they got and rebuilt it for NX handheld.
If I can continue playing Blast Ball for free like this, I could keep coming back to it, especially if NLG keep patching in gameplay tweaks.
Here's the skins I got in the NA version
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Lightning - Performed 5 blocks in a game
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Shark - First Blast Ball Win
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Star - Beat a challenge (beat both single player and online, nothing else unlocked)
Kraid - 10 Blast Ball Wins
Mother Brain - Scored 3 goals in a game
Ridley - Ran over 10km
Bowser - amiibo
Bowser Jr. - amiibo
Luigi - amiibo
Mario - amiibo
Peach - amiibo
Rosalina - amiibo
Samus - amiibo
Zero Suit - amiibo
Skull - amiibo
I didn't get anything for going through Federation Force training but I also didn't get the highscore in Target practice (20k, only got like 11k)
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I didn't get anything for going through Federation Force training but I also didn't get the highscore in Target practice (20k, only got like 11k)
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This seems pretty bad to me. Blast ball I find boring, slow and clunky.
The Federation Force training was a tad better, but gyro aiming isn't great on portables IMO since you're moving the screen your watching. It also breaks the 3D so you have to turn that off.
I'm a huge Metroid fan, but I just can't see picking this up. Especially at a $40 release price. Seems like this should have been a budget download only title, or even F2P with skin purchases or something.
The Federation Force training was a tad better, but gyro aiming isn't great on portables IMO since you're moving the screen your watching. It also breaks the 3D so you have to turn that off.
I'm a huge Metroid fan, but I just can't see picking this up. Especially at a $40 release price. Seems like this should have been a budget download only title, or even F2P with skin purchases or something.
Diablohead
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Whoever enters the room first is the leader and has to press X to start, if the room isn't full bots fill the gap and they are rather good at times.Ōkami;210902568 said:
NOLA_Gaffer
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I made the mistake of playing through the Freedom Force training mission...now I want to play the actual game so much more than Blast Ball. 
Game plays a lot better with a circle pad pro, or barring that a c-stick.
I turned off gyro the minute I found out how.
EDIT: Actually it probably plays better than the stick with the gyro, but it ruins the 3D.
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Yeah the stick is shitty. Great for camera in games like Monster Hunter, but terrible for aiming.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Well, this came out of nowhere. Guess I'll try it out...
I think that's a deliberate choice, it makes the game more methodical as opposed to over the top arcade action. It becomes less of a button masher and more strategic. You can definitely feel how heavy the ball is. It doesn't fly around like a ping pong ball, you need to account for its momentum and shoot it from the side to make it roll away from the goal.
I thought so too, that playing Splatoon on a handheld wouldn't work because the screen is tied to the controller so to speak. In Blast Ball though gyro aiming is fine because you're always locked on to the ball, but in the FF training it was definitely an issue when targets appear all over the place. I didn't experience any issues with the 3D effect though, the N3DS eye tracking technology works perfectly.
UnemployedVillain
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I'll have to DEFINITELY disagree. I played through the entirety of RE: Revelations with gyro aiming, because compared to using the stick it was godly
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Well of course. I'd rather just not play games that really need a dual analog set up for me to enjoy on hardware lacking two sticks.
Mr. Pointy
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The gyro controls work better in Blast Ball than they do in the FF demo.
I'm glad Nintendo released a demo for this game. Before getting my hands on it, I thought it looked dull, slow, and boring.
Now that I've played a few rounds, I can see the error of my ways. In reality, it's actually boring, dull and slow.
Seriously, I wouldn't play this for free. It's garbage. The palest shadow of rocket league, without the speed, agility or verticality - all the essential ingredients of that game.
And other than prime's lamentable control scheme it has nothing to do with metroid. This is sad, sorry shit. At least it's polished I guess.
Luigi's Mansion 3 when? Now THAT was a great game.
Now that I've played a few rounds, I can see the error of my ways. In reality, it's actually boring, dull and slow.
Seriously, I wouldn't play this for free. It's garbage. The palest shadow of rocket league, without the speed, agility or verticality - all the essential ingredients of that game.
And other than prime's lamentable control scheme it has nothing to do with metroid. This is sad, sorry shit. At least it's polished I guess.
Luigi's Mansion 3 when? Now THAT was a great game.
Can't play the game here as i am not connected on NNID on my current N3DS.T_T I would love if we can get a demo release on JP Eshop here as i had NNID for JP 3ds.
Also, i would hope the next OT for MP:FF, we will put a strict rule that if people who just wanted to complain about the game existence would not post in there as i would love to had a proper OT like TMS which is better without the censorship complained all over the OT.T_T
Also, i would hope the next OT for MP:FF, we will put a strict rule that if people who just wanted to complain about the game existence would not post in there as i would love to had a proper OT like TMS which is better without the censorship complained all over the OT.T_T
My biggest complaint right now is that the skill ceiling seems rather low. I don't feel like there's much more for me to do to really get better at.
Online games are already a drawn out back and forth. Even the Emp is no longer a blowout if you cockblock with the mech correctly.
More events like the special balls would be nice. Maybe a stage change?
Your movement speed is irrelevant in moment to moment play: you can hit the ball at any time. You only need to move to position for defense or make an offensive play, both of which require team strategy.
Online games are already a drawn out back and forth. Even the Emp is no longer a blowout if you cockblock with the mech correctly.
More events like the special balls would be nice. Maybe a stage change?
You know you can shoot, right?
Your movement speed is irrelevant in moment to moment play: you can hit the ball at any time. You only need to move to position for defense or make an offensive play, both of which require team strategy.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Blast Ball's not bad, probably not something I'd buy a whole game over though. Matches can get pretty drawn out.
Will try the actual Federation Force demo a bit later...
Will try the actual Federation Force demo a bit later...
Movement speed is entirely relevant because to get the ball where you want to go you must be in the right position to angle your shots, to defend your goal you must be able to get back between it and the ball, to coordinate with teammates you must be able to space out... This is all so obvious I'm amazed I need to spell it out.
What's more, the slow speed means you make less meaningful decisions per moment as it's easier to just keep shooting rather than strategically repositioning yourself. And so on.
It's a dull game. That said, they should have started with the fed force training demo. It makes a better first impression.It's still terrible, but it's better. Slightly.
Lock on is tap, not hold.
Agree to disagree I suppose. Shot angle gives you sufficient control over saves and trick shots from a distance, but you are rewarded with playing your area as the ball comes to you.
TheMoon
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I will make fucking sure of that.
fabricated backlash
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Thank you for the efforts
eXistor
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I just get errors, so I just quit the game I guess.
Most of the time I get errors, sometimes I end up in the arena, but the match never starts.
Thanks for the good job there.^_^ I will be sure to join that OT here lol.
TheMoon
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Still expecting that discussion to happen. Because nobody reads OPs.
But hopefully a lot of whining will be preempted by the review thread.
Diablohead
Member
They really need to do something about laggy hits to the ball sending it towards the wrong direction, I hit it from the front side but the server thinks I hit it from the rear side and it's hard to defend when that happens all the time.
When I play offline the collision is perfect.
I also see a lot of players aim at the ball but not lead their shots, usually people on my team :/
When I play offline the collision is perfect.
I also see a lot of players aim at the ball but not lead their shots, usually people on my team :/
TheMoon
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Yea the laggy business made me quit the online version of Challenge mode which I thought would be easier with humans controlling my teammates. Can't really defend against AI when your shots go all over the place.
Not leading shots might be a result of people having switched to N3DS/CPP controls and not using the free aim. I went back to gyro because I find the layout not suitable in that setup.
wild wild rice
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Is there a separate demo for Federation Force right now? I'm confused by some of what people are saying in this thread. Or is there like a traning mission in Blast Ball that is taken from Federation Force?
Point being I'm more interested in trying FF than BB.
Edit: Apparently not in NA. Oh well.
Point being I'm more interested in trying FF than BB.
Edit: Apparently not in NA. Oh well.
Yeah I just discovered that too. Sad. I wanted to test how how FF plays more than actually play BB.
Haven't played the game but wouldn't it be the other way? If you can move so fast between spreading out in an offensive position, yet able to move at a relative similar speed to the ball in order to go set up the defense quickly, wouldn't that actually allow for much less meaningful decisions and planning since you're not committing to any decision?
I'd think slow speed could make the game be very defensive prone, but I assume that's where missiles and charge shots come into play to screw up people's angles.
TheMoon
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Both games in NA and PAL are the same.
There is no FF demo. There is only the "Training" which is sort of a FF tutorial in the form of a training exercise that gets you the mech certificate and qualifies you for the Federation Force.
Everyone has the same game here. And none of us have an actual FF mission/demo.
The training mode you unlock is what I assume people are referring to.
TheMoon
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yes, see above.
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Those will just unlock the skull paint job that all non-specifically supported Amiibo unlock.
I think the only ones that have their own paint jobs are Samus, Zero Suit Samus, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr. and Rosalina.
you can put one of those back away
TheMoon
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Zero Suit Samus
Samus Aran
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Mario (all versions incl. Dr. Mario and 8bit Mario, same design)
Luigi
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Peach
Rosalina
are the only supported amiibo
all others give you a generic skull pattern.
claude.labonte
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ZERO SPACEBUCKS ahahah nice - I'm gonna try that, I've been moderately hyped about this
wild wild rice
Member
Gotcha.
Thanks. Guess I'll download it at least for the training exercise just to see what the game looks/feels like.
You have to make some progress in challenge mode to unlock it, I believe.
That's how I unlocked it in both my accounts, anyway. I think you have to beat Gamma.