MMaRsu
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Not sure which part of Mafia 2 is mediocre, lmao.
But yes its a third person cover shooter just like this.
Allright, thank you for your very informing opinion. Your posts also reek of something
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But yes its a third person cover shooter just like this.
Allright, thank you for your very informing opinion. Your posts also reek of something
DeVeAn
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Calling out EVERY poster because they raggin' on the game is helping?
Ass of Can Whooping
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The fuck? Did the price just increase?
WHAT THE FUCK AHAHAHA
WHAT THE FUCK AHAHAHA
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Luipadre
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nvm its 60, it was the deluxe edition, they fixed it now
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MMaRsu
Member
LOL its coming soon on steam and the price is 79.99 euro, it was 60 5 minutes ago
Que?
Says 60 eurodollars for me
SteamDB says its 60 dollars too
Helping what? Clueless folks raging on something they haven't seen more than 5min gameplay of? Why would I not call them out lmao
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Mortisfacio
Member
Not seeing US price increase. Still showing $60 on Steam. Are people misreading the base vs deluxe edition?
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Gonzito
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Ah right that was whack lol
Luipadre
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Nydius
Member
Funny thing is I'm not even "raggin'" on the game, I'm just pointing out the history and truth behind its development so people can be more knowledgeable before making a purchase, especially since reviews will be non existent. But, apparently, that makes me a 'hater' to certain people.
This game is undeniably NOT what Benzies and BARB wanted to release, by their own past statements on their original plans. Everything about it reeks of having to get something out to market or piss off a lot of investors.
MMaRsu
Member
Luipadre
Member
Nope, it was prepurchase for 79.99 without the deluxe edition when i made the comment. Now it has the normal and deluxe edition. Probably was a steam listing mistake
MMaRsu
Member
SoMMaRsu , what's your reason for being captain of this game's defense force?
How am I captain of the defence force? I've said time and time again, if the game is shit, let's shit on it together. But lets wait until the fucking game is out?
People are just shitting on this game for absolutely no real reason. Its hilarious to see, and pathetic when they line up for the latest 2K sports slop, and Activision drivel.
Should be unlocked right?
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Kvally
Member
Nah. Not to mention, Starfield and Diablo 4 both were praised by reviewers (based on scores at OpenCritic).
PicoLordens
Member
Looks like patch 2 is also nowhere to be found on PS5. Game is a technical disaster on Pro. FR
HRK69
Member
Alright, let's address this tired lines that keeps popping up:
We're not pulling opinions from thin air
This whole "wait until the game is out before criticizing it" argument is tired and hollow. It ignores how games are marketed, sold, and hyped in the modern industry
If a game like Mindseye is showing red flags before release, why wouldn't people point them out? That's not being negative for the sake of it, that's being informed and cautious. We've seen this cycle too many times: flashy trailers, vague promises, early hype, and then.. disappointment.
Saying "people are just shitting on it for no reason" completely dismisses the actual concerns players have voiced, whether it's questionable gameplay, a weird tone shift, recycled ideas, or lack of clarity from the devs. These aren't "made up" reasons, they're based on what's been shown publicly.
You don't get to tell people to pre-order or "support the devs" one day, and then tell them to shut up and wait the next. Criticism is part of the conversation, and pretending otherwise is just fanboy denial.
And for the record, pointing out flaws in Mindseye doesn't suddenly make someone a hypocrite because they don't also post daily hate about 2K or Call of Duty. That's a deflection, not a defense.
People have a right to be skeptical. Especially when the industry has taught us over and over again not to blindly trust the hype
We're not pulling opinions from thin air
This whole "wait until the game is out before criticizing it" argument is tired and hollow. It ignores how games are marketed, sold, and hyped in the modern industry
If a game like Mindseye is showing red flags before release, why wouldn't people point them out? That's not being negative for the sake of it, that's being informed and cautious. We've seen this cycle too many times: flashy trailers, vague promises, early hype, and then.. disappointment.
Saying "people are just shitting on it for no reason" completely dismisses the actual concerns players have voiced, whether it's questionable gameplay, a weird tone shift, recycled ideas, or lack of clarity from the devs. These aren't "made up" reasons, they're based on what's been shown publicly.
You don't get to tell people to pre-order or "support the devs" one day, and then tell them to shut up and wait the next. Criticism is part of the conversation, and pretending otherwise is just fanboy denial.
And for the record, pointing out flaws in Mindseye doesn't suddenly make someone a hypocrite because they don't also post daily hate about 2K or Call of Duty. That's a deflection, not a defense.
People have a right to be skeptical. Especially when the industry has taught us over and over again not to blindly trust the hype
analog_future
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MMaRsu
Member
It's a Steam upload error man
Calm the fuck down jesus christ
Also lmao Mat piscetella that clown still lives?
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drotahorror
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It's weird. I beat Callisto Protocol. I beat Order 1886. I've tried to play DG 2 or 3x, I always really enjoy it at first and then just stop playing. It's clearly a better game than Callisto and Order, but I can't bring myself to continue playing it. In fact I'm about to install it again I guess. I did like Order though, Callisto is fuckng trash and time will never change that.
MMaRsu
Member
What fucking RED FLAGS bro??????
Vage promises? SOURCE????
Flashy trailers?? Yeah thats a RED FLAG for sure, nothing like that in the industry LMAO
Early hype?? Which early hype???
Yall just pulling stuff out of your fucking ass
A CFO leaving before a game launches literally means nothing.
A company not wanting YT to be filled with spoiler heavy footage, nothing new. GTA does this, deletes footage before release.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I think literally everyone here is calm and having fun ragging on the hilarious launch process of this game, except for you who seems to be very upset for some reason.
Kupfer
Member
I'm not hating / shitting on Mindseye, the game just seems incredibly sketchy and the release feels extremely sloppy - and you seem to want to defend it vehemently despite all the red flags.
That's cool with me, I just don't get it. To me, everything about the game right now screams "stay away." Of course, I'd be happy to be proven wrong and for it to turn out to be a good game, but I doubt it.
And what makes you so sure it's a "clearly 7/7.5 game"? There are zero reviews, and honestly, everything we've seen so far doesn't really look like a 7.5...
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MMaRsu
Member
Lol, sure very fun, everybody is having fun shitting on anything this game does.
OH WAIT, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND CANT FREEROAM? WHAT A TURD LMAOOLOLOLOLOLO
Like I've said countless fucking times, I guess yall cant read for shit either, IF THE GAME IS SHIT LETS SHIT ON IT TOGETHER
What is "incredibly sketchy" about it for you?
The fact that there is a physical release out right now? A finished game that might be buggy and performance shitty in some places?
What is incredibly sketchy about that? Please elaborate.
Incredibly Sketchy is words I'd use for devs like The Day Before. Not for a game that has a full playthrough up on YT and you can finish it from start to end, has plenty of actors in it with good/decent voice acting?
So please explain, in all seriousness, what's "incredibly sketchy" about it?
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analog_future
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MMaRsu
Member
yeah def dont respond to any sincere questions
FeralEcho
Member
Saw some footage of the game expecting a trashdump based on everyone's negative consensus on it but I was pleasantly surprised to see a really really solid presentation with amazing voice acting,writting and performances. The gameplay itself looks pretty janky but the game seems like it might be worth it for the story and performances alone.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Why would I answer questions to subjects that I didn't bring up in the first place?
HRK69
Member
Yikes.
My post literally said "if a game is showing red flags" . Not that I listed an official set of red flags like patch notes. The whole point was: if people see warning signs, they're allowed to talk about it
No one's pulling stuff "out of their ass." They're just not blind to marketing patterns that have burned gamers before
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
PicoLordens
Member
This is literally the first game ever where I'm like.. OK.. I'll wait for a patch cuz this is very close to unplayable.
FeralEcho
Member
Yeah,the absurd hate for this game is embarassing. Just move on if you're not interested.
MMaRsu
Member
The 'Red Flags' ( I hate this fucking term by the way ) are so stupid.
Oh no, a CFO is leaving, that MUST mean the game is absolute shit or a scam!
They arent showing me 25 minutes of uncut gameplay in a trailer, it must be a sketchy scam!
I don't care about marketing patterns. I care about is the game fun to play or not.
You can't be serious. I was trying to be open-minded and give this game a chance, but they literally refused to send out review codes, officially to avoid spoilers. I think everyone with half a brain can figure out what's the real reason.
Kvally
Member
Mortisfacio
Member
This is what I'm confused about. You don't like the game. Cool. Looks generic. Cool. No free roam. Cool. But the hate for this game is weird. I feel like the CEO is an abuser or something. Has to be some scandal to warrant the hatred instead of just moving along, right?
Gamer_By_Proxy
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• "Premium Pass"
• "Deluxe" Thorn & Kepler Yellowjacket Weapon
• "Future" Jacob Vest Skin
• "Future" DC2 Companion Drone Skin
• "Future" Silva Sedan Vehicle Skin
The "Premium Pass" includes:
• Pack 1 "Exotic Pack" ("Exotic" Jacob Vest Skin, "Exotic" DC2 Companion Drone Skin, "Exotic" Silva Sedan Vehicle Skin)
• Horde Mode Mission: Face a variety of enemies with distinct tactics and behaviors. Think fast and use your surroundings to outmaneuver your opponents.
• Pack 2: Extra missions and challenges in Q3 2025
• Pack 3: Extra missions and challenges in Q4 2025
• Pack 4: Extra missions and challenges in Q1 2026
Kupfer
Member
Judging by the material I've seen so far, everything just feels outdated - the animations, ragdoll physics, driving mechanics, sounds, gameplay and gunplay.
The game world -from the looks- feels shallow and empty - it all seems pretty unfitting for a current-gen title that, at its core, looks like a seventh-generation console game with higher resolution.
As I understand it, it's supposed to be a puzzle piece in the larger Everywhere universe - but we don't know anything about that either. It just feels like a pipe dream to me.
And then starting off with a game that gives the impression the publisher doesn't even want players to really get their hands on it… it's just sketchy.
The only thing I've thought looked cool since the first trailers are the explosions - they actually look really nice - but is that enough?
HRK69
Member
You're acting like people discussing Mindseye critically is some personal attack on your existence.
We said it shows signs that deserve scrutiny, based on everything the devs have chosen to show (or not show). If that short-circuits your brain, that's on you.
You're mocking valid concerns like:
"CFO left? LMAO that means nothing!"
"No gameplay? You want 25 minutes?? LOL!"
"Marketing patterns? Who cares!"
Dude, these aren't wild conspiracy theories, they're the bare minimum things people pay attention to in an industry that lies constantly. You don't care? Cool. That doesn't mean no one else should.
You sound like the guy who gets scammed by the same trick five times and then yells at everyone else for not "just waiting to see if it's fun."
Nobody owes you silence just because you've decided to glue yourself to the hype train.
If people see red flags, they'll talk about it. If that hurts your feelings, log the fuck off and do something else
Oh, and you're not defending the game, you're defending your ego for being hyped too early
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MMaRsu
Member
I never said "I liked it", I havent played it yet.
That is my thought as well. I will play it when I get home.
I'm interested in the story though. I like a good scifi romp. And a third person shooter? Shit we need more of those in the singleplayer space.
Not sending out review copies means absolutely nothing these days.
The Switch 2 also didn't send out any review units, why do you think that is? (games journalism is shit)
Yeah let's hold these devs to the lies that other devs have made, while this is the devs first game. If you want to see what the game is about, there is hours of gameplay to see for all.
So what fucking red flags are we seriously even talking about here?
Tell me about these red flags
Fucking lmao
Thanks for at least writing up a serious post about why you feel the game looks mediocre.
The game world is just an simple backdrop, for the missions and story that play out. Like LA Noire. That game has almost nothing to do in the open world. That doesnt make LA Noire a bad game though?
The everywhere stuff doesn't really interest me. If the game came out of a failed project, then I don't mind, as long as the game is fun to play.
Lol, I wasn't really ever that hyped for the game at all. I thought it looks cool.
I think the hate is absolutely unwarranted considering the amount of GAAS infested MTX shithole games we get these days.
We all ask "Where are the fun AA games?" but when one comes out, it has to have the graphics and gameplay of GTA V, and the polish of a Nintendo game according to some posters.
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Kvally
Member
I know. I was just joking. It was getting too serious all up in here
Whether or not this game is panned, hopefully I enjoy it. People shit all over Saints Row 22, Crackdown 3, Redfall, Oure, The Order 1886....but I enjoyed them. Everyone should just enjoy the games they want to enjoy.
HRK69
Member
If there's 'hours of gameplay' and you still can't spot the red flags, that's not a defense of the game, that's a red flag about you
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
It's telling your only example you can pick from is the Switch 2
MMaRsu
Member
You still haven't mentioned any of these red flags dude. Stop fucking gaslighting me. If you want to have a discussion about why these red flags exist for you, then by all means.
If you want to dance around the subject and just yell RED FLAGS, RED FLAGS then begone, please.
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SomeNorseGuy
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I haven't written this completly off. Going to watch some extended gameplay later if I can find some and see how I feel about it.