MindsEye |OT| The Benz Presents - Mafia 2077

So Mafia 2 then. People fell over themselves to worship that mediocrity for some reason, so why the double standard with this one then?
Not sure which part of Mafia 2 is mediocre, lmao.

But yes its a third person cover shooter just like this.

This game just reeks mediocrity. Even the name sucks.

Allright, thank you for your very informing opinion. Your posts also reek of something
 
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Calling out EVERY poster because they raggin' on the game is helping?

Funny thing is I'm not even "raggin'" on the game, I'm just pointing out the history and truth behind its development so people can be more knowledgeable before making a purchase, especially since reviews will be non existent. But, apparently, that makes me a 'hater' to certain people.

This game is undeniably NOT what Benzies and BARB wanted to release, by their own past statements on their original plans. Everything about it reeks of having to get something out to market or piss off a lot of investors.
 
So MMaRsu MMaRsu , what's your reason for being captain of this game's defense force?

How am I captain of the defence force? I've said time and time again, if the game is shit, let's shit on it together. But lets wait until the fucking game is out?

People are just shitting on this game for absolutely no real reason. Its hilarious to see, and pathetic when they line up for the latest 2K sports slop, and Activision drivel.

Wasn't this supposed to unlock 10 min ago?

Should be unlocked right?
 
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Alright, let's address this tired lines that keeps popping up:
People are just shitting on this game for absolutely no real reason. Its hilarious to see, and pathetic when they line up for the latest 2K sports slop, and Activision drivel.

We're not pulling opinions from thin air

This whole "wait until the game is out before criticizing it" argument is tired and hollow. It ignores how games are marketed, sold, and hyped in the modern industry

If a game like Mindseye is showing red flags before release, why wouldn't people point them out? That's not being negative for the sake of it, that's being informed and cautious. We've seen this cycle too many times: flashy trailers, vague promises, early hype, and then.. disappointment.

Saying "people are just shitting on it for no reason" completely dismisses the actual concerns players have voiced, whether it's questionable gameplay, a weird tone shift, recycled ideas, or lack of clarity from the devs. These aren't "made up" reasons, they're based on what's been shown publicly.

You don't get to tell people to pre-order or "support the devs" one day, and then tell them to shut up and wait the next. Criticism is part of the conversation, and pretending otherwise is just fanboy denial.

And for the record, pointing out flaws in Mindseye doesn't suddenly make someone a hypocrite because they don't also post daily hate about 2K or Call of Duty. That's a deflection, not a defense.

People have a right to be skeptical. Especially when the industry has taught us over and over again not to blindly trust the hype
 
I just don't share the fact that dg is anywhere near the quality of these games so even if it had a rough start, i would not put it in that list, sorry.

BUt in the end, it is your list, you can put barbie passion horses in it if you want, it just triggered me a bit because i think dg is a couple of tiers above what i consider glorified tech demos at worse and mediocre 6\10 games at best.

There would be a lot to discuss about how broken dg actually was at launch compared to actually broken games or why the media scored the game lower or how much better it looked in the first trailers compared to the other games but this is not the place nor would change your mind.

(Not considering mindseye because i didn't played the game yet but i doubt it's gonna be nowhere near dg)

It's weird. I beat Callisto Protocol. I beat Order 1886. I've tried to play DG 2 or 3x, I always really enjoy it at first and then just stop playing. It's clearly a better game than Callisto and Order, but I can't bring myself to continue playing it. In fact I'm about to install it again I guess. I did like Order though, Callisto is fuckng trash and time will never change that.
 
If a game like Mindseye is showing red flags before release, why wouldn't people point them out? That's not being negative for the sake of it, that's being informed and cautious. We've seen this cycle too many times: flashy trailers, vague promises, early hype, and then.. disappointment.

What fucking RED FLAGS bro??????

Vage promises? SOURCE????

Flashy trailers?? Yeah thats a RED FLAG for sure, nothing like that in the industry LMAO

Early hype?? Which early hype???

Yall just pulling stuff out of your fucking ass

A CFO leaving before a game launches literally means nothing.

A company not wanting YT to be filled with spoiler heavy footage, nothing new. GTA does this, deletes footage before release.
 
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It's a Steam upload error man

Calm the fuck down jesus christ

Also lmao Mat piscetella that clown still lives?

I think literally everyone here is calm and having fun ragging on the hilarious launch process of this game, except for you who seems to be very upset for some reason.
 
Why, because I hate to see people shitting on a developers first game, while lining up to purchase the latest Activision or Ubisoft slop?

Gtfo

People are so happy to shit on this clearly 7/7.5 game, with weird remarks like "what even is the game"????

As if you cant understand what the game is after a five minute look at the gameplay?

Actually stupid ass comments. Comparing it to the actual scam A day before. Why even?

So disrespectful
I'm not hating / shitting on Mindseye, the game just seems incredibly sketchy and the release feels extremely sloppy - and you seem to want to defend it vehemently despite all the red flags.
That's cool with me, I just don't get it. To me, everything about the game right now screams "stay away." Of course, I'd be happy to be proven wrong and for it to turn out to be a good game, but I doubt it.

And what makes you so sure it's a "clearly 7/7.5 game"? There are zero reviews, and honestly, everything we've seen so far doesn't really look like a 7.5...
 
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I think literally everyone here is calm and having fun ragging on the hilarious launch process of this game, except for you who seems to be very upset for some reason.
Lol, sure very fun, everybody is having fun shitting on anything this game does.

OH WAIT, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND CANT FREEROAM? WHAT A TURD LMAOOLOLOLOLOLO

I don't hate Mindseye, the game just seems incredibly sketchy and the release feels extremely sloppy - and you seem to want to defend it vehemently despite all the red flags.
That's cool with me, I just don't get it. To me, everything about the game right now screams "stay away." Of course, I'd be happy to be proven wrong and for it to turn out to be a good game, but I doubt it.

And what makes you so sure it's a "clearly 7/7.5 game"? There are zero reviews, and honestly, everything we've seen so far doesn't really look like a 7.5...

Like I've said countless fucking times, I guess yall cant read for shit either, IF THE GAME IS SHIT LETS SHIT ON IT TOGETHER

What is "incredibly sketchy" about it for you?

The fact that there is a physical release out right now? A finished game that might be buggy and performance shitty in some places?

What is incredibly sketchy about that? Please elaborate.

Incredibly Sketchy is words I'd use for devs like The Day Before. Not for a game that has a full playthrough up on YT and you can finish it from start to end, has plenty of actors in it with good/decent voice acting?

So please explain, in all seriousness, what's "incredibly sketchy" about it?
 
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Calm the fuck down jesus christ
What fucking RED FLAGS bro??????

Vage promises? SOURCE????

Flashy trailers?? Yeah thats a RED FLAG for sure, nothing like that in the industry LMAO

Early hype?? Which early hype???

Yall just pulling stuff out of your fucking ass

A CFO leaving before a game launches literally means nothing.

A company not wanting YT to be filled with spoiler heavy footage, nothing new. GTA does this, deletes footage before release.
Lol, sure very fun, everybody is having fun shitting on anything this game does.

OH WAIT, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND CANT FREEROAM? WHAT A TURD LMAOOLOLOLOLOLO

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Saw some footage of the game expecting a trashdump based on everyone's negative consensus on it but I was pleasantly surprised to see a really really solid presentation with amazing voice acting,writting and performances. The gameplay itself looks pretty janky but the game seems like it might be worth it for the story and performances alone.
 
What fucking RED FLAGS bro??????

Vage promises? SOURCE????

Flashy trailers?? Yeah thats a RED FLAG for sure, nothing like that in the industry LMAO

Early hype?? Which early hype???

Yall just pulling stuff out of your fucking ass

A CFO leaving before a game launches literally means nothing.

A company not wanting YT to be filled with spoiler heavy footage, nothing new. GTA does this, deletes footage before release.
Yikes.

My post literally said "if a game is showing red flags" . Not that I listed an official set of red flags like patch notes. The whole point was: if people see warning signs, they're allowed to talk about it

No one's pulling stuff "out of their ass." They're just not blind to marketing patterns that have burned gamers before
 
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Yikes.

My post literally said "if a game is showing red flags" . Not that I listed an official set of red flags like patch notes. The whole point was: if people see warning signs, they're allowed to talk about it

No one's pulling stuff "out of their ass." They're just not blind to marketing patterns that have burned gamers before

The 'Red Flags' ( I hate this fucking term by the way ) are so stupid.

Oh no, a CFO is leaving, that MUST mean the game is absolute shit or a scam!

They arent showing me 25 minutes of uncut gameplay in a trailer, it must be a sketchy scam!

I don't care about marketing patterns. I care about is the game fun to play or not.
 
What fucking RED FLAGS bro??????

Vage promises? SOURCE????

Flashy trailers?? Yeah thats a RED FLAG for sure, nothing like that in the industry LMAO

Early hype?? Which early hype???

Yall just pulling stuff out of your fucking ass

A CFO leaving before a game launches literally means nothing.

A company not wanting YT to be filled with spoiler heavy footage, nothing new. GTA does this, deletes footage before release.
You can't be serious. I was trying to be open-minded and give this game a chance, but they literally refused to send out review codes, officially to avoid spoilers. I think everyone with half a brain can figure out what's the real reason.
 
Lol, sure very fun, everybody is having fun shitting on anything this game does.

OH WAIT, YOU DRIVE AROUND AND CANT FREEROAM? WHAT A TURD LMAOOLOLOLOLOLO



Like I've said countless fucking times, I guess yall cant read for shit either, IF THE GAME IS SHIT LETS SHIT ON IT TOGETHER

What is "incredibly sketchy" about it for you?

The fact that there is a physical release out right now? A finished game that might be buggy and performance shitty in some places?

What is incredibly sketchy about that? Please elaborate.

Incredibly Sketchy is words I'd use for devs like The Day Before. Not for a game that has a full playthrough up on YT and you can finish it from start to end, has plenty of actors in it with good/decent voice acting?

So please explain, in all seriousness, what's "incredibly sketchy" about it?
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The gameplay itself looks pretty janky but the game seems like it might be worth it for the story and performances alone.

That is my thought as well. I will play it when I get home.
 
Yeah,the absurd hate for this game is embarassing. Just move on if you're not interested.

This is what I'm confused about. You don't like the game. Cool. Looks generic. Cool. No free roam. Cool. But the hate for this game is weird. I feel like the CEO is an abuser or something. Has to be some scandal to warrant the hatred instead of just moving along, right?
 
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So please explain, in all seriousness, what's "incredibly sketchy" about it?
Judging by the material I've seen so far, everything just feels outdated - the animations, ragdoll physics, driving mechanics, sounds, gameplay and gunplay.
The game world -from the looks- feels shallow and empty - it all seems pretty unfitting for a current-gen title that, at its core, looks like a seventh-generation console game with higher resolution.
As I understand it, it's supposed to be a puzzle piece in the larger Everywhere universe - but we don't know anything about that either. It just feels like a pipe dream to me.
And then starting off with a game that gives the impression the publisher doesn't even want players to really get their hands on it… it's just sketchy.
The only thing I've thought looked cool since the first trailers are the explosions - they actually look really nice - but is that enough?
 
The 'Red Flags' ( I hate this fucking term by the way ) are so stupid.

Oh no, a CFO is leaving, that MUST mean the game is absolute shit or a scam!

They arent showing me 25 minutes of uncut gameplay in a trailer, it must be a sketchy scam!

I don't care about marketing patterns. I care about is the game fun to play or not.
You're acting like people discussing Mindseye critically is some personal attack on your existence.

We said it shows signs that deserve scrutiny, based on everything the devs have chosen to show (or not show). If that short-circuits your brain, that's on you.

You're mocking valid concerns like:

"CFO left? LMAO that means nothing!"

"No gameplay? You want 25 minutes?? LOL!"

"Marketing patterns? Who cares!"

Dude, these aren't wild conspiracy theories, they're the bare minimum things people pay attention to in an industry that lies constantly. You don't care? Cool. That doesn't mean no one else should.

You sound like the guy who gets scammed by the same trick five times and then yells at everyone else for not "just waiting to see if it's fun."

Nobody owes you silence just because you've decided to glue yourself to the hype train.

If people see red flags, they'll talk about it. If that hurts your feelings, log the fuck off and do something else

Oh, and you're not defending the game, you're defending your ego for being hyped too early
 
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You can't be serious. I was trying to be open-minded and give this game a chance, but they literally refused to send out review codes, officially to avoid spoilers. I think everyone with half a brain can figure out what's the real reason.

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That is my thought as well. I will play it when I get home.
I never said "I liked it", I havent played it yet.

I'm interested in the story though. I like a good scifi romp. And a third person shooter? Shit we need more of those in the singleplayer space.

Not sending out review copies means absolutely nothing these days.

The Switch 2 also didn't send out any review units, why do you think that is? (games journalism is shit)

Dude, these aren't wild conspiracy theories, they're the bare minimum things people pay attention to in an industry that lies constantly

Yeah let's hold these devs to the lies that other devs have made, while this is the devs first game. If you want to see what the game is about, there is hours of gameplay to see for all.
So what fucking red flags are we seriously even talking about here?

Tell me about these red flags

Fucking lmao

Judging by the material I've seen so far, everything just feels outdated - the animations, ragdoll physics, driving mechanics, sounds, gameplay and gunplay.
The game world -from the looks- feels shallow and empty - it all seems pretty unfitting for a current-gen title that, at its core, looks like a seventh-generation console game with higher resolution.
As I understand it, it's supposed to be a puzzle piece in the larger Everywhere universe - but we don't know anything about that either. It just feels like a pipe dream to me.
And then starting off with a game that gives the impression the publisher doesn't even want players to really get their hands on it… it's just sketchy.
The only thing I've thought looked cool since the first trailers are the explosions - they actually look really nice - but is that enough?

Thanks for at least writing up a serious post about why you feel the game looks mediocre.

The game world is just an simple backdrop, for the missions and story that play out. Like LA Noire. That game has almost nothing to do in the open world. That doesnt make LA Noire a bad game though?

The everywhere stuff doesn't really interest me. If the game came out of a failed project, then I don't mind, as long as the game is fun to play.

Oh, and you're not defending the game, you're defending your ego for being hyped too early

Lol, I wasn't really ever that hyped for the game at all. I thought it looks cool.

I think the hate is absolutely unwarranted considering the amount of GAAS infested MTX shithole games we get these days.

We all ask "Where are the fun AA games?" but when one comes out, it has to have the graphics and gameplay of GTA V, and the polish of a Nintendo game according to some posters.
 
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I never said "I liked it", I havent played it yet.

I know. I was just joking. It was getting too serious all up in here :)

I'm interested in the story though. I like a good scifi romp. And a third person shooter? Shit we need more of those in the singleplayer space.

Not sending out review copies means absolutely nothing these days.

The Switch 2 also didn't send out any review units, why do you think that is? (games journalism is shit)

Whether or not this game is panned, hopefully I enjoy it. People shit all over Saints Row 22, Crackdown 3, Redfall, Oure, The Order 1886....but I enjoyed them. Everyone should just enjoy the games they want to enjoy.
 
Yeah let's hold these devs to the lies that other devs have made, while this is the devs first game. If you want to see what the game is about, there is hours of gameplay to see for all.
So what fucking red flags are we seriously even talking about here?

Tell me about these red flags

Fucking lmao
If there's 'hours of gameplay' and you still can't spot the red flags, that's not a defense of the game, that's a red flag about you
 
If there's 'hours of gameplay' and you still can't spot the red flags, that's not a defense of the game, that's a red flag about you

You still haven't mentioned any of these red flags dude. Stop fucking gaslighting me. If you want to have a discussion about why these red flags exist for you, then by all means.

If you want to dance around the subject and just yell RED FLAGS, RED FLAGS then begone, please.
 
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