Lunatic_Gamer
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[MLiD] PS6 Full Specs Leak: RTX 5090 Ray Tracing & Next-Gen AI w/ AMD Orion!
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forsakkenSoul
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bitbydeath
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160W sounds low, but it is rumoured to be using chiplets which could be the reason why.
160 bit memory bus and that 160W TDP...
pacman4000
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So, which one is it?
Bojji
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7900XTX is chiplet as well and it draws a lot of power. GPU seems reasonable with that amount of cores but low TDP will throttle it...
He is talking about 9070 to 5080 level of power for raster and 5090 level of power for RT. This doesn't make any fucking sense...
Bernardougf
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399 for sure
Hero_Select
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We keep getting so many of these "leaks" that it's hard to keep track of what the actual fuck is going on.
pacman4000
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Chiplets does not reduce power draw.
Bojji
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I bet it will be cheaper than PS5.
bitbydeath
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PS5 was 200W on a monolithic design.
A decrease from that makes sense given the change to chiplets.
Bernardougf
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Well by 2027 if things continue like this, im betting sony would have to pay me to buy a ps6 ... so cheaper than the ps5 is an understatement
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bitbydeath
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Yes it does.
What Is A Chiplet, And Why Should You Care?
How a modular approach can improve yield, reduce cost, and improve PPA/C.
semiengineering.com
Magic Carpet
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It's gonna be priced less than my PC. Expensive but still less than my PC. 
Bojji
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Jump in clocks 2GHz to 3GHz for GPU and CPU will be over 4GHz for sure (5 maybe?) from 3.5GHz. 36CUs on PS5 - > 52/54CUs on PS6
Even with lower node I doubt this thing will eat less power than PS5.
These specs look super weird and memory speed is low, PS5 Pro is already memory speed limited and this jump to 640GB/s is small...
Buggy Loop
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Obligatory post for anything MLID related.
pacman4000
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No they don't. Not compared to an all-in-one die solution.
bitbydeath
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I don't know, just stating it will impact power requirements, no idea on the degree of impact. I suspect they know what they're doing though and wouldn't go all out everywhere else if it led nowhere.
Bernardougf
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Its just me or a 9070/5080 in almost 3 years for a 8 year gen seems like really fucking low ?
bitbydeath
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All hardware leaks have come from him.Obligatory post for anything MLID related.
bitbydeath
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I can post more links proving you're wrong if you don't like the one I previously sent you.
Bernardougf
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Also this.
Buggy Loop
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bitbydeath
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The specs he's agreed with, just some of the takes he doesn't.
Eg.
Well I was going to reveal Canis at some point but MLID beat me to it
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StreetsofBeige
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PS6 is going to be a like a 5090 with 40 gb ram?
Lagspike_exe
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Can anyone extrapolate the increase in RT needed for 9070 XT to match 5090 in performance?
Loomy
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This could all be bullshit, I don't know. Don't much care in 2025.
What I want to point out though, are the subtle baity console war bullshit that always comes with a new generation.
The last 2 points specifically. When comparing Playstation to Playstation, he uses #x to indicate performance improvement.
When comparing Xbox to Playstation though, all of a sudden, it switches to percentage
25% seems like a huge number compared to all the ones he's been using up to that point. He could have very easily put down
What I want to point out though, are the subtle baity console war bullshit that always comes with a new generation.
The last 2 points specifically. When comparing Playstation to Playstation, he uses #x to indicate performance improvement.
When comparing Xbox to Playstation though, all of a sudden, it switches to percentage
25% seems like a huge number compared to all the ones he's been using up to that point. He could have very easily put down
But who wants consistency in units used when sharing data?
pacman4000
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That's pointless since [a situation where a chiplet design allows for] a power reduction require a context that doesn't apply here.
I'm sorry but your link doesn't prove anything.
Instead of googling, why not start to think instead? Why would separate n3p dies for cpu and gpu decrease power draw? The answer is that they don't. The opposite happens. Comunication between these 2 (and, with both options having the same power hungry GDDR7 interface) will absolutely be more efficient if they both belong to the same n3p die.
Aka common sense. Beats googling taken out of context sentences every time...
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Bojji
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No.
9070 to 5080 performance in raster. Amount of RAM is still not set in stone.
PS6 is gonna be better than 9070XT in RT (RDNA5 will make it happen) but what MLiD is saying about RT = 5090 is just his wet dream. It doesn't even make any fucking sense.
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Buggy Loop
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And he's speculating here
He never got anywhere close any AMD ray tracing performance speculations. He could be looking at some ray intersection metric and be extrapolating to his usual « Nvidia killer » like it happened with RDNA 2.
The guy can only copy paste information directly given to him. Then he inflates expectations and the cycle of AMD starts anew. Disappointed to follow.
Those GPUs aren't running a 3nm processor which would have decreased the TDP
bitbydeath
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We don't know if it's speculation or not.
Gaiff
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Hybrid workload in games.
Synthetic ray-traced benchmark.
The 5090 is around ~2x the performance of the 9070 XT in ray tracing. The odds that the PS6 is that fast are almost non-existent.
Considering the machine is still ways off, it can be nothing but speculation.
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bitbydeath
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It could be something handed to him in the form of, aiming for X.
RodriGames40
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A 5080 with a fuckton of VRAM seems like. Not bad, and I imagine these will seem like great numbers if the RTX 6000 series (Vera Rubin) disappoints also.
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Tobimacoss
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Isn't he miscalculating how much more powerful Magnus is?
If 27 Workgroups with 54 CUs (1 workgroup 2 CU disabled) for Orion. And if Magnus was reportedly 40 workgroups according to one leak, or 36 workgroups according to MLID leak, then 36 X 2 = 72 CUs, 4 disabled for 68 CUs.
9 more WGs than Orion comes out to 33% more, and counting the disabled ones, 26 vs 34 comes out to 30% more. But if that 40 WG leak, then that comes out to 46-48% more
If 27 Workgroups with 54 CUs (1 workgroup 2 CU disabled) for Orion. And if Magnus was reportedly 40 workgroups according to one leak, or 36 workgroups according to MLID leak, then 36 X 2 = 72 CUs, 4 disabled for 68 CUs.
9 more WGs than Orion comes out to 33% more, and counting the disabled ones, 26 vs 34 comes out to 30% more. But if that 40 WG leak, then that comes out to 46-48% more
MrTroubleMaker
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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If these leaks are true, by the time the PS6 releases it'll be roughly around the performance level of an Nvidia or AMD 60 series card, so lower mid range cards in the 300 to 400 USD/EUR range. I don't think they'll manage to release the whole box for less than that, so if you're on PC already you can just slap a new card into your machine and pay less.It's gonna be priced less than my PC. Expensive but still less than my PC.