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[formasymphonic]

Hahahahaha. The coup head of Tekkadan is more or less Grifith lol.^^ And this the person u guys had been supporting here lol.^^

Gaelio is sooo going to kick that scrub lol.^^

Why loli is bleeding and crying? Mcgillis does not deserve being Char clone there.T_T

I hereby redub Chocolate otoko - "McGriffith"

 

[Rymuth]

I'll laugh my ass off if the mind/brain inside of Bael is Carta.

Jajajajaja

Thanks, I needed the mental image. XD

 

[sleverfunk]

So Fareed also has Alya vagina system?Color me surpirsed!
Also damn Mcgillis was a sex slave when he was a child

 

[casiopao]

I hereby redub Chocolate otoko - "McGriffith"

lololol.^^ Thats wonderful lol.

Now, lets see the baddies which is the idiot Ghallarjorn+Tekkadan vs the true protagonist which is Gaelio lol.^^

 

[Renewed]

I remember someone saying what if Vidar is just Ein thanks to playing his theme in that one fight. OH MAN

 

[Defuser]

Gali Gali is no saint either by siding with Rustal. Both him and Tekkadan are have their balls gripped by 2 evil men.

But hey at least we got more info regarding Bael. So Agenika got absorbed by Bael just like how Mikazuki is half absorb by Barbatos.

 

[formasymphonic]

So Fareed also has Alya vagina system?Color me surpirsed!
Also damn Mcgillis was a sex slave when he was a child

It was kinda obvious from a while back he was going to go down the AV route, once we knew he was after Bael. It was even more so after the Mobile Armour ep seeing the difference in ability between what he and everyone else could do vs Mika with an unrestricted AV Gundam.

I can't remember the ep number, but after the fight he even has a discussion with his 2nd in command (who's name I can't remember now, sorry) over Mika's/Barbatos' level of power and him desiring it.

 

[casiopao]

Gali Gali is no saint either by siding with Rustal. Both him and Tekkadan are have their balls gripped by 2 evil men.

But hey at least we got more info regarding Bael. So Agenika got absorbed by Bael just like how Mikazuki is half absorb by Barbatos.

Rustal is for certain not as bad Choco guy lol.^^ Only Iok who ruined his reputation there.^^

 

[newtypepilot]

damn, as if this show couldn't get any darker. I never thought there would be a character with a even more fucked up childhood than Marida.

We still don't know what McGillis's end game is though. There has to be another reason why he took Bael besides symbolism.

 

[Kojirospath]

Gali Gali is no saint either by siding with Rustal. Both him and Tekkadan are have their balls gripped by 2 evil men.

But hey at least we got more info regarding Bael. So Agenika got absorbed by Bael just like how Mikazuki is half absorb by Barbatos.

So endgame is Orga in Barbatos Mika?

 

[SliceSabre]

YOU THOUGHT EIN WAS GONE!? THINK AGAIN!

JUSTICE WILL BE HAD!!!! PUNISHED GAELIO DA BEST

 

[GoldCrusader]

I'm guessing it has the founder's brain/data in it because he said that it was a completion of the Alaya-Vijnana system + Ein's data. I assume that if he didn't have those, the mobile suit would be going berserk like when Barbatos fought the mobile armor. Hence him being able to "control" it...at least for now.

Goddamn between Barbatos Lupus Rex, Vidar and Bael though... Those are some awesome gundams

Yea thats more or less what I thought.

 

[Tecl0n]

God damn, Vidar and Bael are kickass designs.


Also, Gaelio is really the main character. #ShunWasRight

 

[casiopao]

IBO is kicking A/Z on their balls on how good it is.^^

 

[formasymphonic]

damn, as if this show couldn't get any darker. I never thought there would be a character with a even more fucked up childhood than Marida.

We still don't know what McGillis's end game is though. There has to be another reason why he took Bael besides symbolism.

Gaining power is the end game. Bael is both a figurative symbol of power for what Agnika represents to Gjallerhorn historically, and it's is place in Its hierarchy, and for its actual power.

McGriffith is a kid who grew up in a system that allowed him to be violated by those in power and found some form of solace in the history of Gjallerhorn "as an organisation founded by individuals who made the ultimate sacrifice; to gain the power to reform a world twisted by conflict/superpowers into one of peace, under their guidance".

After 300 years, those who have inherited the reigns of Gjallerhorn have mostly lost the spirit/intent from which the institute was founded upon, and McGriffith sees himself as the one who will become Agnika for the new era and reshape the world to reform it under his guidance. He initially claimed that Tekkadan could play this role during their revolution stuff in S1, but the beginning of S2 basically stated that their ascendency actually also made things worse / more unstable / incentivised the creation of more child soldiers etc - instead of making things better.

There is potential for huge irony in the ending of the series if Gaelio's side "wins" and Gjallerhorn is semi-reformed under him/Rustal, as back when Gaelio was debating whether to approve Ein's surgery + at another point later, McGriffith himself stated that Gaelio/those like him would be the ones to lead to Gjallerhorn's renewal. [sorry, I'm on mobile so I'll have to dig for the episodes / time stamps later]

- of course, at the time he meant that Gaelio/Ein would be the path he, himself, would use the further his plan - but the end irony could come to be quite satisfying.
- though, there is also a small chance that this is a whole "zero requiem" scenario, but seen as he legit thought Gaelio was dead, I am gonna doubt this for now.

 

[donkey show]

The masked man is Ein. Lol.

Nah man, the Gundam behind Gaelio is Ein.

Roflmao.

I want this to be real.

Double Edit:
Shout out to donkey show who called it from way back on page 3, lol

 

[Rymuth]

Gaining power is the end game. Bael is both a figurative symbol of power for what Agnika represents to Gjallerhorn historically, and it's is place in Its hierarchy, and for its actual power.

McGriffith is a kid who grew up in a system that allowed him to be violated by those in power and found some form of solace in the history of Gjallerhorn "as an organisation founded by individuals who made the ultimate sacrifice to gain the power to reform a world twisted by conflict/superpowers into one of piece under their guidance".

After 300 years, those who have inherited the reigns of Gjallerhorn have mostly lost the spirit/intent from which the institute was founded upon, and McGriffith sees himself as the one who will become Agnika for the new era and reshape the world to reform it under his guidance. He initially claimed that Tekkadan could play this role during their revolution stuff in S1, but the beginning of S2 basically stated that their ascendency actually also made things worse / more unstable / incentivised the creation of more child soldiers etc - instead of making things better.

There is potential for huge irony in the ending of the series if Gaelio's side "wins" and Gjallerhorn horn is semi-reformed under him/Rustal, as back when Gaelio was debating whether to approve Ein's surgery + at another point later, McGriffith himself stated that Gaelio/those like him would be the ones to lead to Gjallerhorn's renewal. [sorry, I'm on mobile so I'll have to dig for the episodes / time stamps later]

- of course, at the time he meant that Gaelio/Ein would be the pathetic himself would use the further his plan, but the end irony could come to be quite satisfying.
- though, there is also a small chance that this is a whole "zero requiem" scenario, but seen as he legit thought Gaelio was dead, I am gonna doubt this for now.

A few episodes back, I had an inkling that this might happen but now I'm almost willing to bet on it. Rustal is going to end up as the true winner of this conflict and be hailed as the great redeemer/reformer.

Jury's still out on Gaelio but I'm going to say he dies taking down McGriffisu

 

[Sanojio]

Mcguillis wasn't joking about living his life in anger. Shit. So much for a "father"

 

[Pbae]

Mcguillis wasn't joking about living his life in anger. Shit. So much for a "father"

...

The fuck man.

Does anyone here think that plot point for McGillis should have been laid out in season one or more heavily foreshadowed?

Gives more honesty to him working with Tekkadan.

 

[RangerBAD]

- This episode basically cemented Gaelio's group as the good faction.

- Gaelio's speech to McGilis is the same spiel every Gundam protagonist espouses

- You can pretty much replace Tekkadan with Titans, etc and every villainous Gundam faction that takes the government hostage

- Orga calls McG 'General' and refers to his victory as 'our victory'...get fucked, Orga


One last thing worth noting:

- Given Rustal and the old guy's dejection, I'm guessing there's a HUGE downside to awakening Bael. I postulated before that McGillis would awaken ever Mobile Armor at once -- perhaps the MA's will sense Baels awakening and, in turn, activate in order to defeat their fated nemesis - thus, McG may have very well jumpstarted the apocalypse

Since Rustal's part of it, not really. He's attempted some bad guy machinations. Both sides are both wrong and right. Tekkadan chose the only side that offered a deal. If Fareed loses, they'll be hunted down. I expect a double KO with Rustal being killed and Isurugi will probably honor Fareed's deal with Tekkadan or Gaelio's sisters will somehow do something. This civil war isn't that black and white. What's Gaelio's plan if he wins? What are his motivations other than revenge? The system is factually corrupt. It has to be changed. It's clear Rustal is part of that corrupt system. He tried to start a major war, and tried to make Tekkadan take the fall. Having an organization like Gjallarhorn, with that much autonomous power, is pretty scary. Even if Fareed wins and cleans it up, we now know that he would just power Gjallharhorn up more. Rustal and Fareed are the real power players here. So neither side is looking good despite noble words. No one as broken as Fareed could ever lead properly. IBO's world is one full of broken people.

 

[LotusHD]

When Gaelio shouted out "Ein!", my friends and I screamed lmao

Episode was greatness

 

[duckroll]

The more I look at it. The more Bael looks like Xenogears rather than Hi-Nu or Tallgeese III.

 

[casiopao]

The more I look at it. The more Bael looks like Xenogears rather than Hi-Nu or Tallgeese III.

Bael back wing looks a lot like F91 though.^^

 

[Rymuth]

The more I look at it. The more Bael looks like Xenogears rather than Hi-Nu or Tallgeese III.

I confess, that shot where it was slowly descending down, I was getting Anubis/ZOE vibes

 

[duckroll]

Since Rustal's part of it, not really. He's attempted some bad guy machinations. Both sides are both wrong and right. Tekkadan chose the only side that offered a deal. If Fareed loses, they'll be hunted down. I expect a double KO with Rustal being killed and Isurugi will probably honor Fareed's deal with Tekkadan or Gaelio's sisters will somehow do something. This civil war isn't that black and white. What's Gaelio's plan if he wins? What are his motivations other than revenge? The system is factually corrupt. It has to be changed. It's clear Rustal is part of that corrupt system. He tried to start a major war, and tried to make Tekkadan take the fall. Having an organization like Gjallarhorn, with that much autonomous power, is pretty scary. Even if Fareed wins and cleans it up, we now know that he would just power Gjallharhorn up more. Rustal and Fareed are the real power players here. So neither side is looking good despite noble words. No one as broken as Fareed could ever lead properly. IBO's world is one full of broken people.

Is the system corrupt or simply unfair to some people? What is corruption? Are the people in power not doing what they are entrusted to do? Was the world not largely safe and stable until Tekkadan came along?

Certainly things are unfair when seen from the "poor vs rich" angle, where child soldiers are forced to do bad things and get shit pay. Things like human debris are basically slavery. McDonalds being abused as a child sucks. It seems unfair that rich and powerful men get to stay in their positions because of who their ancestors were. But, it's still an structure which seems to largely work. McDonalds wants to strike it all down because he wants to show the world that Might Makes Right. He is a true bootstrap believer, and wants to break the nepotistic order that the world is now under. But what he wants to replace it with is something even more dangerous. He cares nothing for order and stability, he wants a world where the strong can force their will on the weak, which is really no different from the current order, except his idealized strength is that of a person's willpower, determination, and personal ability.

Rustal is not a good person, but he has shown that he's a pretty decent leader. He knows how politics work, and he is willing to compromise and control his own people when he knows stability is at stake. Iok is an example a of bad person with bad judgement and bad leadership. Galileo on the other hand, is making the most practical choice here. He is siding with Rustal not because he likes the guy, but because weighing everything right now, it is the right choice for the world. Someone like McDonalds cannot be proven to be right. He has to be defeated to show that even if you have the strongest and most powerful Gundam, there is an order to things. You don't go around backstabbing people and hiring terrorist groups from Mars to do their wetworks and come up on top. You die like a bitch in a ditch. That is the reward awaiting traitors and terrorists.

Pro-tip: Ein stands for ONE. NUMBER ONE! GALILEO TO WIN! CONFIRMED!

 

[Shun]

Now you get to see the System OS of the Alaya Vijnana system, straight out of the actual school of Buddhism

1. Sight
2. Sound
3. Smell
4.Taste
5. Touch
6. Awareness, "Thoughts"
7. Self Perception, "Self Reflection"
8. Human Foundation, "Memories"

All these are System Indicators of a pilot under the Alaya Vijnana and their brain.


I mean I do work at Bandai, I wasn't trying to deflect or anything. I just wanted to hint at what was going to happen over the past 2 years in this new Gundam series.

 

[casiopao]

Is the system corrupt or simply unfair to some people? What is corruption? Are the people in power not doing what they are entrusted to do? Was the world not largely safe and stable until Tekkadan came along?

Certainly things are unfair when seen from the "poor vs rich" angle, where child soldiers are forced to do bad things and get shit pay. Things like human debris are basically slavery. McDonalds being abused as a child sucks. It seems unfair that rich and powerful men get to stay in their positions because of who their ancestors were. But, it's still an structure which seems to largely work. McDonalds wants to strike it all down because he wants to show the world that Might Makes Right. He is a true bootstrap believer, and wants to break the nepotistic order that the world is now under. But what he wants to replace it with is something even more dangerous. He cares nothing for order and stability, he wants a world where the strong can force their will on the weak, which is really no different from the current order, except his idealized strength is that of a person's willpower, determination, and personal ability.

Rustal is not a good person, but he has shown that he's a pretty decent leader. He knows how politics work, and he is willing to compromise and control his own people when he knows stability is at stake. Iok is an example a of bad person with bad judgement and bad leadership. Galileo on the other hand, is making the most practical choice here. He is siding with Rustal not because he likes the guy, but because weighing everything right now, it is the right choice for the world. Someone like McDonalds cannot be proven to be right. He has to be defeated to show that even if you have the strongest and most powerful Gundam, there is an order to things. You don't go around backstabbing people and hiring terrorist groups from Mars to do their wetworks and come up on top. You die like a bitch in a ditch. That is the reward awaiting traitors and terrorists.

Pro-tip: Ein stands for ONE. NUMBER ONE! GALILEO TO WIN! CONFIRMED!

Truly the PAP life lesson by ducky lol.^^

 

[SliceSabre]

Been a long time since I said a gundam was sexy.

 

[donkey show]

Been a long time since I said a gundam was sexy.

Obari putting in dat work.

 

[formasymphonic]

I would just like to point out that Carta and Iznario have the same taste in men.



Edit: (remember Carta being surrounded by blonde dudes on her ship / her main pilots etc). Ironic as he was supposed to be her guardian. I wonder if that's what happened to the boys once they got too old for his tastes?

McGriffith caught his eye as the favourite and got picked to be his heir and join Gjallerhorn as one of the 7 stars, while the others join the regular army or moved into Carta's forces? Remember that the Outer Earth Orbit Regulatory Joint Fleet didn't seem have to do much based on their jurisdiction, so was probably seen as being quite cushy.

 

[RangerBAD]

Is the system corrupt or simply unfair to some people? What is corruption? Are the people in power not doing what they are entrusted to do? Was the world not largely safe and stable until Tekkadan came along?

Certainly things are unfair when seen from the "poor vs rich" angle, where child soldiers are forced to do bad things and get shit pay. Things like human debris are basically slavery. McDonalds being abused as a child sucks. It seems unfair that rich and powerful men get to stay in their positions because of who their ancestors were. But, it's still an structure which seems to largely work. McDonalds wants to strike it all down because he wants to show the world that Might Makes Right. He is a true bootstrap believer, and wants to break the nepotistic order that the world is now under. But what he wants to replace it with is something even more dangerous. He cares nothing for order and stability, he wants a world where the strong can force their will on the weak, which is really no different from the current order, except his idealized strength is that of a person's willpower, determination, and personal ability.

Rustal is not a good person, but he has shown that he's a pretty decent leader. He knows how politics work, and he is willing to compromise and control his own people when he knows stability is at stake. Iok is an example a of bad person with bad judgement and bad leadership. Galileo on the other hand, is making the most practical choice here. He is siding with Rustal not because he likes the guy, but because weighing everything right now, it is the right choice for the world. Someone like McDonalds cannot be proven to be right. He has to be defeated to show that even if you have the strongest and most powerful Gundam, there is an order to things. You don't go around backstabbing people and hiring terrorist groups from Mars to do their wetworks and come up on top. You die like a bitch in a ditch. That is the reward awaiting traitors and terrorists.

Pro-tip: Ein stands for ONE. NUMBER ONE! GALILEO TO WIN! CONFIRMED!

Well, I would say the state in Mars is in is the main conflict I have with the system working. My main point is we're dealing with shades of grey. No one comes out smelling like roses. Here we have the old guard (Rustal/Gaelio), the new Guard (Fareed), and we have Tekkadan that's taking the one offer on the table. How ever you feel about Tekkadan, their goal seems to be breaking the cycle of human debris and the poverty that creates them. I figure Tekkadan would continue exist, even as Mars' SDF or Army or whatever. I just figure they won't be taking in 12 year olds. So, yeah, I see no real winning for anyone but the powerful with Gjallarhorn around. I won't argue that the sudden throwing of a Gundam back into the world's mix didn't turn shit upside down. Their existence created the opportunity for something to happen eventually.

Now that I think about it, there is a high possibility that Gjallarhorn is destroyed and replaced by Tekkadan. That would make some people pretty upset.

 

[donkey show]

I would just like to point out that Carta and Iznario have the same taste in men

Dude xD

 

[TheRealTalker]

when he shouted for Ein I lost it


lolololol and we were joking about it in this thread

 

[Geist-]

So, let's see if I understand this. Ein is installed into Vidar, and Gaelio works in tandem with Ein to create a less crazy version of S1 Ein. And McGillis is in Bael, and I feel like it's implied that Agnika Kaieru is inside Bael.

So, if we consider what keeps happening to Mika when he tries to fully utilize Barbados, maybe this is the secret to how the Gundams defeated the Mobile Armors. Maybe humans need to be full integrated into a Gundam Ein-style, along with another human as pilot to utilize a gundam's full potential.

Mika-Barbatos piloted by Orga for the finale?

 

[donkey show]

when he shouted for Ein I lost it


lolololol and we were joking about it in this thread

I always believed the moment I foresaw it. :3

 

[Andrew J.]

YES THE TIME FOR TRUE JUSTICE IS UPON US!

YOU THOUGHT EIN WAS GONE!? THINK AGAIN!

JUSTICE WILL BE HAD!!!! PUNISHED GAELIO DA BEST

Pro-tip: Ein stands for ONE. NUMBER ONE! GALILEO TO WIN! CONFIRMED!

Ein winning a battle? Good one, guys. lol

 

[Urban Scholar]

Guys what the hell did I just watch? Sweet jesus...

 

[TheRealTalker]

at this rate Gali's sister is going to get more screen time then Kudellia in S2

Spoiler

judging by the preview

 

[ThatChairMan]

I think it's pretty silly how the "teleport behind you" is the signature move of a AV-user going to the next level. It always happens! And then I got massive blueballs from that "fight", which was really just a few brief exchanges.

 

[Rymuth]

at this rate Gali's sister is going to get more screen time then Kudellia in S2

Spoiler

judging by the preview

who.gif

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

...

The fuck man.

Does anyone here think that plot point for McGillis should have been laid out in season one or more heavily foreshadowed?

Gives more honesty to him working with Tekkadan.

Well there was a certain scene in Season 1, that now takes a darker turn.

 

[RangerBAD]

Let's split hairs: It's not really Ein, but even a model of his brain will still lose.

 

[Shouta]

Now that I think about it, there is a high possibility that Gjallarhorn is destroyed and replaced by Tekkadan. That would make some people pretty upset.

I want this to happen. It would be glorious.

This entire conflict is fucked up, lol

So, let's see if I understand this. Ein is installed into Vidar, and Gaelio works in tandem with Ein to create a less crazy version of S1 Ein. And McGillis is in Bael, and I feel like it's implied that Agnika Kaieru is inside Bael.

So, if we consider what keeps happening to Mika when he tries to fully utilize Barbados, maybe this is the secret to how the Gundams defeated the Mobile Armors. Maybe humans need to be full integrated into a Gundam Ein-style, along with another human as pilot to utilize a gundam's full potential.

Mika-Barbatos piloted by Orga for the finale?

Yes, Bael has the soul of Agnika Kaieru. Whether that be his actual brain or an imprint of it, doesn't matter. It's Agnika Kaieru in essence. The AV system is a huge strain on the human body but having a system like Ein or AK running it in conjunction with a regular pilot basically gives the same effect without the downsides. It basically takes on the load and filters the necessary information probably.

 

[formasymphonic]

There is potential for huge irony in the ending of the series if Gaelio's side "wins" and Gjallerhorn is semi-reformed under him/Rustal, as back when Gaelio was debating whether to approve Ein's surgery + at another point later, McGriffith himself stated that Gaelio/those like him would be the ones to lead to Gjallerhorn's renewal. [sorry, I'm on mobile so I'll have to dig for the episodes / time stamps later]

On a desktop now so here are some relevant timestamps of dialogue to go with some of what I was saying earlier (I won't quote whole scenes, so watching the clips is recommended).

From Ep 22: 06:50-10:15 covers Gaelio being hesitant to submit Ein to the surgery, with McGillis convincing him by reiterating Gjallerhorn's history and purpose.

Gaelio: They should learn from Ein's loyalty.
Maybe a man like Ein is the one who is closest to the long gone essence of Gjallerhorn.
[...]
McGillis: You do understand, right Gaelio? This is for Ein, and also for us.
Show Them. The origin of Gjallarhorn that was their self sacrifice to save Earth.
You and Ein with the Alaya-Vijnana shall eliminate those space rats. And show that we're the ones to lead this organisation properly.

From Ep 23: 09:27-11:42 covers Gaelio regretting having Ein bound to the machine, and is consoled by McGillis

McGllis: Gaelio, with Gjallarhorn so corrupt. I wonder how your heart stayed so pure.
Gaelio: Are you mocking me?
McGillis: I'm serious. And not just you, Ein as well. I feel it is your good conscience that will reform Gjallarhorn.

[...]

McGillis: Gaelio. Carta. You were both great friends, the is no lie in those words. You are indeed the ones to change Gjallarhorn.

Also there is the dialogue from Galieo/McGillis confrontation in ep 25 (but there are multiple parts so I won't link to them)

McGillis: Gaelio. There is no lie in what I told you. To lead Gjallarhorn into the right direction, I needed you and Ein.

Anyways, these mainly cover the "irony" aspect of McGillis potentially being the manufacturer of his own demise if Gaelio's side wins and they reform Gjallarhorn.

There is some other stuff I wanted to link to & quote, like the intro in Ep one explaining that Tekkadan's ascendancy actually cause more problems politically than it solved, or McGillis/Isurugi's discussion of Barbatos' power and how it fights (Ep 33: 16:25-17:56) and how interesting of a contrast it is to Julia and her obersvation of how Vidar fought in Ep 34 ....but tbh its long and I cba to add any more to this.

 

[Kojirospath]

I'm adding to Orga-BarbatosMika Rustal in Julia. Makes way too much sense.

Edit: last fight will be 2v2, Gaelio/Vidar/Ein + Rustal/Julia/Julia vs. Fareed/Bael/AK + Orga/Barbatos/Mika

 

[RangerBAD]

Julia seems fated to be cannon fodder. There's only seven episodes left.

 

[formasymphonic]

Julia seems fated to be cannon fodder. There's only seven episodes left.

Maybe, but narratively Tekkadan feel like they have no real reason to be in this fight or an opponent to go against. Meanwhile the other side has no more named pilots - so as Kojiro says above, its more than likely to be:

- Gaelio/Vidar vs McGillis/Bael
- Julia/Reginlaze Julietta vs Mika/Barbatos

If there were more eps i might have even suspected she could go down the AV road as well, but i doubt it now.

 

[TheRealTalker]

On a desktop now so here are some relevant timestamps of dialogue to go with some of what I was saying earlier (I won't quote whole scenes, so watching the clips is recommended).

From Ep 22: 06:50-10:15 covers Gaelio being hesitant to submit Ein to the surgery, with McGillis convincing him by reiterating Gjallerhorn's history and purpose.



From Ep 23: 09:27-11:42 covers Gaelio regretting having Ein bound to the machine, and is consoled by McGillis


Also there is the dialogue from Galieo/McGillis confrontation in ep 25 (but there are multiple parts so I won't link to them)


Anyways, these mainly cover the "irony" aspect of McGillis potentially being the manufacturer of his own demise if Gaelio's side wins and they reform Gjallarhorn.

There is some other stuff I wanted to link to & quote, like the intro in Ep one explaining that Tekkadan's ascendancy actually cause more problems politically than it solved, or McGillis/Isurugi's discussion of Barbatos' power and how it fights (Ep 33: 16:25-17:56) and how interesting of a contrast it is to Julia and her obersvation of how Vidar fought in Ep 34 ....but tbh its long and I cba to add any more to this.

felt the same way

it would've quite traditional if McGills planned all this and actually knew he didn't kill Gali so that what you stated could occur but likely it is more like he is so laser focused on his deciption that he didn't realize fully what he was spouting

I'm adding to Orga-BarbatosMika Rustal in Julia. Makes way too much sense.

Edit: last fight will be 2v2, Gaelio/Vidar/Ein + Rustal/Julia/Julia vs. Fareed/Bael/AK + Orga/Barbatos/Mika

this is turning out to become a combo meal set up

add Lafter's brain and space Guts (Akhiro) and we are fully going all pseudo combos here

 

[RangerBAD]

Maybe, but narratively Tekkadan feel like they have no real reason to be in this fight or an opponent to go against. Meanwhile the other side has no more named pilots - so as Kojiro says above, its more than likely to be:

- Gaelio/Vidar vs McGillis/Bael
- Julia/Reginlaze Julietta vs Mika/Barbatos

If there were more eps i might have even suspected she could go down the AV road as well, but i doubt it now.

Mika would destroy her. Unless she does use the AV system, but even then Mika destroys her with experience alone.

 

[Kojirospath]

Mika would destroy her. Unless she does use the AV system, but even then Mika destroys her with experience alone.

To clarify, and hinted at in the convo between the female mechanic and Julia, Julia is going to be Rustal's Ein. She keeps on saying she wants to be his sword. What better way than to become Gundam.