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Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate |OT2| "OT" means Official Thread!

ohlawd

Member
i wouldn't worry about it, I've had it freeze once over 250 hours of play time on the wii U
I've had mine freeze over 10 times now in the span of 100 hours.
Never offline tho, always when playing online.

Hmm I wanna do my urgent with you guys but uhhh freezing happens randomly. Really no point if I d/c in the middle of it. Bit of a pinch :(
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
Caping an Uragaan solo is such a pain in the ass lmao.

It feels like as soon as he starts limping he's moments from death so unless he decides to leave when he is ready for cap I just won't know and I'll just obliterate him.

Took me 3 tries to cap it.

Misread him once and wasted my 2 traps
Killed him the second time
Caped the third
 

tuffy

Member
I've had mine freeze over 10 times now in the span of 100 hours.
Never offline tho, always when playing online.

Hmm I wanna do my urgent with you guys but uhhh freezing happens randomly. Really no point if I d/c in the middle of it. Bit of a pinch :(
I've had exactly one freeze online in the middle of a loading screen, so that many freezes is unusual.

Is your game stored in the system's internal storage or on an external hard drive?
 

Anura

Member
I had a couple disc-based freeze before. It seemed to have been caused by overheating and after taking measures to stop it I haven't had a freeze yet.
 

ohlawd

Member
I've had exactly one freeze online in the middle of a loading screen, so that many freezes is unusual.

Is your game stored in the system's internal storage or on an external hard drive?
I've had more freezing in an actual hunt. Weee I'm destroying this Brachydios, then the screen freezes and it goes BZZZZZT. Can't do anything after so I have to force a shutdown.

Internal.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
I've had more freezing in an actual hunt. Weee I'm destroying this Brachydios, then the screen freezes and it goes BZZZZZT. Can't do anything after so I have to force a shutdown.

Internal.

Do you keep your Wii U in a drawer or something where airflow isn't good?

I played for literally 12 hours straight on saturday and never had a freeze and mine is digital stored internally as well.
 

tuffy

Member
I've had more freezing in an actual hunt. Weee I'm destroying this Brachydios, then the screen freezes and it goes BZZZZZT. Can't do anything after so I have to force a shutdown.

Internal.
All I can think of is that there's either something wrong with your downloaded copy or something wrong with your Wii U. You could try deleting the game (but not delete the save data, obviously) and re-download it to an external hard drive to see if that makes a difference. If crashes keep happening, I'd contact Nintendo customer service to see if they could fix it.
 

ohlawd

Member
Do you keep your Wii U in a drawer or something where airflow isn't good?

I played for literally 12 hours straight on saturday and never had a freeze and mine is digital stored internally as well.
Yessir. Airflow is freaking terrible lols. I call it the shelf of doom because everything in it collect tons of dust fast. It's probably cooking itself as I type this. Only reason I keep it there cuz I don't have anywhere else to place it. I'll move it on the ground for now.
 

Anteo

Member
yes.

I have the disc too but you know, loading times. Is the freezing more prevalent when played digitally?

Are you using an external Hard Disk? From my experience, my WiiU used to freeze a lot when using the hard disk for anything (even virtual console games). The problem is that the WiiU usb 2.0 port doesnt give enough energy for a Hard Disk (even for the ones that can work in 2.0), so I had to switcth to a Y usb cable to get enough energy.

Edit: Oh internal. Yeah then I got nothing
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
Yessir. Airflow is freaking terrible lols. I call it the shelf of doom because everything in it collect tons of dust fast. It's probably cooking itself as I type this. Only reason I keep it there cuz I don't have anywhere else to place it. I'll move it on the ground for now.

Ah that'll do it! Clean off the dust put it somewhere where it can breathe and your freezing issue's should stop!

Hard freezes with buzzing sounds usually indicate overheating.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Got few questions for HBG GAF:

So I've been farming to get the Helios ZZZXZ set (thanks to GAF for that bit of advice). Goldbeard was generous enough to give me plenty of fur and gems so now all I need is three Elder Dragonblood for the Helios Vambraces Z and two more Ceadeus Tails for the Helios Coil X. The main issue I'm having is despite my tail-breaking, I'm not getting tails from both species of Ceadeus. And each run took abut 25 minutes for me using my various Greatswords, which felt too long for farming. To shorten said kill time, I read that using the Heavy Bowguns makes the Ceadeus really easy to farm/kill, so I quickly slapped together this set based off of tips from GameFAQs:

-Arzuros Ace with Power Barrel and Limiter removed.
-Full set of Wroggi X armor gemmed for Evasion +1.

I've been using this against Ceadeus with some success despite my inexperience with bowguns and the fact that Wroggi armor is weak to water attacks. I don't die and Ceadeus constantly gets staggered/enraged constantly throughout the fight. I usually manage to break both his horns, his tail, and his beard by the time he dies. But killing him in this manner still takes around 25 minutes and I usually use up most of my Normal 3s and Popfishes.

So how can I kill Goldbeard faster? Should I go for a Pierce bowgun instead of Normal 3s? Is there a certain place I should be shooting other than his beard?

I spend a good chunk of time repositioning myself or chasing after Goldbeard as well, so is there a way to minimize that without getting a HBG so powerful that I can basically stunlock him?
 

tuffy

Member
Got few questions for HBG GAF:
The plan is that you're going to want to deliver normal lv. 3 at point-blank range to the head/belly or pierce shot down his face. The Arzuros Ace won't be able to crouch fire either of those, but I did find a couple of demonstration videos to give the general idea:

Pierce shot vs. Goldbeard

Normal lv. 3 shot vs. Goldbeard

Of course, Goldbeard likes to swing his big head around so if you do go in close it's best to stay near his top fins to avoid being knocked all over the place.
 

Anura

Member
Got few questions for HBG GAF:

So I've been farming to get the Helios ZZZXZ set (thanks to GAF for that bit of advice). Goldbeard was generous enough to give me plenty of fur and gems so now all I need is three Elder Dragonblood for the Helios Vambraces Z and two more Ceadeus Tails for the Helios Coil X. The main issue I'm having is despite my tail-breaking, I'm not getting tails from both species of Ceadeus. And each run took abut 25 minutes for me using my various Greatswords, which felt too long for farming. To shorten said kill time, I read that using the Heavy Bowguns makes the Ceadeus really easy to farm/kill, so I quickly slapped together this set based off of tips from GameFAQs:

-Arzuros Ace with Power Barrel and Limiter removed.
-Full set of Wroggi X armor gemmed for Evasion +1.

I've been using this against Ceadeus with some success despite my inexperience with bowguns and the fact that Wroggi armor is weak to water attacks. I don't die and Ceadeus constantly gets staggered/enraged constantly throughout the fight. I usually manage to break both his horns, his tail, and his beard by the time he dies. But killing him in this manner still takes around 25 minutes and I usually use up most of my Normal 3s and Popfishes.

So how can I kill Goldbeard faster? Should I go for a Pierce bowgun instead of Normal 3s? Is there a certain place I should be shooting other than his beard?

I spend a good chunk of time repositioning myself or chasing after Goldbeard as well, so is there a way to minimize that without getting a HBG so powerful that I can basically stunlock him?

You could try to replace evade with a different skull for a slight increase. I never find evade useful due to his huge lingering hitboxes and you can avoid his swim to the very top/bottom and laser you by far casting back. Not sure if that will save a respectable amount of time. The main issues is that the bowguns available at that point don't have the power to down him before ammo becomes an issue
 

Anura

Member
What makes the Azure Rathalos armor so good for switch axes?

Is it just the insane affinity coupled with easy to get HG earplugs?

The best SA in the game is the L. Narga one and it already has purple sharpness. Of course the Dire Maralis armor gemmed with CE+3 is a very good choice as well
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
The best SA in the game is the L. Narga one and it already has purple sharpness. Of course the Dire Maralis armor gemmed with CE+3 is a very good choice as well

Doesn't that one have less over all damage than the Brisant Demolisher? But that one caps out at white so yeah that makes sense.

Man but slime is just so goooooood.
 

ohlawd

Member
Not having a +5 Handicraft charm is destroying any motivation I have of getting rid of this Helios armor.

Just too addicted to purple sharpness.
 

upandaway

Member
Not having a +5 Handicraft charm is destroying any motivation I have of getting rid of this Helios armor.

Just too addicted to purple sharpness.
Justified, because the difference between white and purple sharpness is huge (I think x1.3 and x1.5). I don't have a single set without S+1.
 

perorist

Unconfirmed Member
Just wait till you can get razor sharp and sharpness+1 on the same set, you won't be able to go back after that either.

Only exception are L.narga weapons that already have purple I guess.
 

ohlawd

Member
I put up my old mixed GS set with Focus, S+1, Earplugs and CritDraw in the armor maker thing. The skill distributions are all screwed up :(

The rarest thing in that set was having a +8 CritDraw charm since the armor by itself already gave S+1.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
You're killing the high rank, right?

Yeah I'm killing HR, the Azure Attack one I think it's a 6 star guild quest?

Oh well maybe all these wings and carapces will come in handy if I wanna switch to lances later...

Oh and why the hell don't rath ruby's wanna drop either ;__;

My luck is deadful tonight
 

Pila

Member
Yeah I'm killing HR, the Azure Attack one I think it's a 6 star guild quest?

Oh well maybe all these wings and carapces will come in handy if I wanna switch to lances later...

Oh and why the hell don't rath ruby's wanna drop either ;__;

My luck is deadful tonight
6 star guild quests are G Rank.

However, Azure Attack is a 5 star quest and it's High Rank. Tail is a common carve from the tail itself, don't give up.

Edit: sorry, didn't see it's a old post
 

Anura

Member
I finally got another cloudy moonshard! I made the LBG and now I have every weapon that requires them and almost every LBG (missing 2).
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
6 star guild quests are G Rank.

However, Azure Attack is a 5 star quest and it's High Rank. Tail is a common carve from the tail itself, don't give up.

Edit: sorry, didn't see it's a old post

Lol it's cool, as soon as I get back from work I'll be back at it I guess lmao. I only need 2 tails so it shouldn't take long. However getting 2 rath rubies is going to possibly take forever.
 

Wiseblade

Member
"Hmm, I wonder if I could make a set with Evasion, Evade Extender and Sharpness+1 by using a mix of Barioth and Nargacuga armour..."

"It is possible, and I was able to squeeze constitution+1 in as well!"

"I already have the evade dist charm, almost all of the armour materials and amd constitution decorations. What do I need for the Handicraft gems?"

iPYEemHTuer0r.gif
 

upandaway

Member
Wiseblade, you using the Athena armor making app? It seems to me like you should be able to make a set with Constitution+2 like that.

edit: ouch, those elemental weaknesses. that looks dangerous!
 

tuffy

Member
My Evade Dist +6 charm with 1 slot and Evade Dist +4 charm with 3 slots are the ones I make the most use out of. With the Empress's Garden as a weapon, I came up with this absurd thing for hunting the Raths. Evade Extender is addictive (especially for HBG), but it's an expensive skill that would be hard to fit in otherwise.
 

Wiseblade

Member
Wiseblade, you using the Athena armor making app? It seems to me like you should be able to make a set with Constitution+2 like that.

edit: ouch, those elemental weaknesses. that looks dangerous!
The whole point of the set is to dodge EVERYTHING. I can just eat vegetables for fire/ice resistance and get better at Evasion for the rest.
 

OmegaZero

Member
Thanks for the help, guys. Helios ZZZXZ get!
Time to launch into G Rank!


Are there any armor sets that allow for Crit Draw and Focus to be easily gemmed in?
 

upandaway

Member
The whole point of the set is to dodge EVERYTHING. I can just eat vegetables for fire/ice resistance and get better at Evasion for the rest.
But still, you should check the app for any better options.

I don't know what your options are because of your charms, but with my Const +4 OOO charm I have plenty of options with decent elemental defenses for the same skill set.

Oooh man, I can make E+1/S+1/E.Dist/Earplugs really easily. I might do it quick.
 

upandaway

Member
Does everyone really bother with element def? If you're really worried you can just eat for positive def.
That means not eating for Pyro, Bombardier or Specialist, so if I can make an armor with nice resistances, I definitely will. It also means eating for Defense + Defender High on top of already better elemental defenses, in the case of the harder monsters where you'd eat for fixing the element defenses to begin with.
 

Anura

Member
That means not eating for Pyro, Bombardier or Specialist, so if I can make an armor with nice resistances, I definitely will. It also means eating for Defense + Defender High on top of already better elemental defenses, in the case of the harder monsters where you'd eat for fixing the element defenses to begin with.

That's why I said if you're REALLY worried. I mean I always solo ala easy with like -35 dragon and -25 or so thunder.
 

tuffy

Member
Does everyone really bother with element def? If you're really worried you can just eat for positive def.
I think it's more important for gunner armor, whose raw defense is so much lower and whose elemental resistance gets a little higher. It makes sense since elemental attacks tend to be ranged, so the ranged classes need better defense against them.

High elemental defense makes taking the accidental Rathalos fireball to the face much less risky, in my experience. So I try to have sets that have both a decent mix of skills and also some non-terrible resistances to whatever I'm facing, if necessary. That also lets me eat for damage increases instead which is nice.
 

Anura

Member
I think it's more important for gunner armor, whose raw defense is so much lower and whose elemental resistance gets a little higher. It makes sense since elemental attacks tend to be ranged, so the ranged classes need better defense against them.

High elemental defense makes taking the accidental Rathalos fireball to the face much less risky, in my experience. So I try to have sets that have both a decent mix of skills and also some non-terrible resistances to whatever I'm facing, if necessary. That also lets me eat for damage increases instead which is nice.

True but they also have higher elemental defense in the first place. I don't think I have a gunner set with much lower then a -10
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
Lol this is horrible, I'm missing my last rath ruby to finish the rath soul set, but I got antsy so I built the rest of it anyways so now i'm using agnaktor greaves with the set just to activate razor sharp while gemming for expert to get crit eye +3. However I cannot get the ear plugs without the set legs so this is like chinese cheap knock off rath soul set.
 
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