Wolf Akela
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Uh no we DID beg for MH3U. "Sven's Revenge" anyone?
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Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate |OT2| "OT" means Official Thread!
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Maybe. They just need incentives, and the servers incentive was good.
"We didn't have to beg for MH3U."
Sven said we have to wait. Most of us assumed it was not coming. But it was pretty clear Nintendo was holding back the announcement as it was a megaton for the Fall 2012 September conference.
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Monster Hunter Tri servers...
Monster Hunter Tri servers...
Totally forgot that yesterday was the final day for Tri's Online.
Good times were had...
RIP
ColtraineGF
Member
I think the fact that they're adding online for 4 despite being on 3DS is a good sign for the consideration of the West's needs
hopefully
Boogalogist
Member
I just completed the 8 star VQ canteen quest. It says dairy items are upgraded. I can't seem to see any difference so far.
(I haven't started on HR yet)
(I haven't started on HR yet)
I went ahead and made it because nether weapons kinda suck (no slots) imo. Thank you for your input.
Well at retail, it seems to have done just below MHTri's first month in the US. Who knows what digital sales are though. MH is one of the perfect games to own digitally.
ThatObviousUser
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It's doing slightly worse than Tri, and this is across two systems instead of one.
Wolf Akela
Member
I don't think the game even had as much advertising. Tri had so much viral marketing.
Do you have the actual numbers? If they're similar, I wouldn't be surprised if the digital sales put it slightly above.
These were posted in the NPD thread, and then posted in the original OT. Would be hard to find them in the NPD thread.
MHTri: 108k-143k
MH3U: 100k-130k
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54510954&postcount=18665
60.9K < MHU 3DS < 77.4K
40.4K < MHU WiiU < 51.6K
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54515607&postcount=18675
creamsugar posted a range and then the split between the two SKUs.
ColtraineGF
Member
Yay, finished all the village quests! Now, on to [Mark of a Hero]...
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RobbieNick
Junior Member
Alright! I got to the HR3 quests and I defeated Caedeus and am high rank in Moga village! Now too.....
WHY IS ALL MY ARMOUR COMPLETE CRAP NOW?!
Seriously, even the Royal Ludroth is kicking my ass! My weapons seem to be strong enough, but now I'm fainting at least once. What the hell?!
WHY IS ALL MY ARMOUR COMPLETE CRAP NOW?!
Seriously, even the Royal Ludroth is kicking my ass! My weapons seem to be strong enough, but now I'm fainting at least once. What the hell?!
Wolf Akela
Member
How and why did my armor sets disappear?
This, I agree with. It's part of the reason why the game feels a lot more frustrating than Tri. The pacing seems set up so that it's super easy to progress, and then the game grinds to a halt the second you need to stop and get a new armor set. I literally went through about half of High Rank using only an upgraded Low Rank Chainmail set for my bow.
And this I partially disagree with. While it's true for certain weapons, there are a lot of cases where the game suddenly wants you to go into grind hell, because e.g. the rare material you need for the weapon with a ridiculous drop rate is also what you need two more of for the armor set.
But you've also reminded me that part of what the devs wanted to do was make sure people didn't use the same armor and skill setups at endgame. So, putting things together, I can see exactly how their set of decisions made this into a frustration for me.
Problem 1: People complain about HR grinding. Ranking up takes too long.
Answer 1: Make it only key quests and urgent quests as the primary means of ranking up.
Problem 2: The game moves a little too fast. Even if you had to do every quest once instead of just the key quests, that's still a fraction of the amount of quests you had to complete before.
Answer 2: Add more armors and up the amount of rare drops needed and even the amount of different rare drops needed at once (admittedly, I haven't run the numbers; this is just my current perception). Players will need to upgrade their armors anyway or face being one or two shotted, forcing them to spend more time doing quests. Additionally, a number of players will stop feeling forced to pick the one monster perceived as fastest for HR grinding and will instead voluntarily be grinding on a monster they need those pieces from.
Problem 3: People are too homogenized in the endgame.
Answer 3: Differentiate the armor sets more by making much fewer of them to be well rounded and instead just decent. From the previous answer, armor can have it's primary purpose of being a damage sponge wall for players, and mixing the great skills together can rely on a second layer of RNG (charms) to try and get players to not depend on them so much.
Someone make me feel better about this bleak post by ripping it to threads or something. The thing is that I went to play Guild Wars 2 while waiting for Tri Ultimate to come out, and stopped playing GW2 regularly before TriU's release because of similar design issues in GW2. Well, that and misplaced developer effort (there's finally a fucking spectator mode!).
This is not actually too bad, considering it's selling to a much smaller installed base on Wii U, and on a system that isn't extremely popular in the US with the 3DS. The only worry comes from how many people may have double dipped...
the higher you go, the less important defense gets and the more important 'not getting hit' becomes. But the start of high/g rank are especially tough because you're still using a set from the previous rank. You can alleviate this somewhat by upgrading, but nothing beats simply learning the monster. SnS is ideal for this, you won't be breaking speed records but it's very safe to use.
this game starts off a lot more forgiving than its predecessors but there's still that moment where 'the real monster hunter starts here' and you just need to learn patience/caution. If Ludroth is slapping your shit then your problem is most likely that you're not assuming he will do the roll attack every time. Because he will, and it'll hit you until you start positioning yourself in a way that he can't. I like to stand behind his back legs and hit him as he turns.
Sammy Samusu
Member
HORROR SHOW IN MOGA WOODS
Commodity from every monster but Nargacuga, that was a great run!
Forecast for tomorrow:
:lol
Also found this old picture, how things have changed! <3
Commodity from every monster but Nargacuga, that was a great run!
Forecast for tomorrow:
:lol
Also found this old picture, how things have changed! <3
ThatObviousUser
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Lol wtf at Zinogre. Took him down easy but his speed was total WTF level as a GS user at first, haha.
Also had really janky animations. Maybe copied over from the PSP game?
Also had really janky animations. Maybe copied over from the PSP game?
ThatObviousUser
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"I spent way too much time tearing up Moga Woods as a kid. I'm like a scholar-athlete! So why am I single?"
Trying to ask me something, gurl?
I don't think so. Go away.
ThatObviousUser
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I can't stay mad at you. <3
Vermillion
Banned
Whoo! Jhen set complete after a couple of hours. I made different variants, which was fun. One with Speed Sharpening, another with autotracker, another with a huge defense boost... Enjoying it!
"God's Beard!"
Member
Getting Long Fragments is the worst thing ever
Came to say Mock Melynx max is the best mask one can give to the Shakalakas.
Just got a Stygian Zinogre Skyemerald from Cha-Cha by him "stealing" it from S. Zinogre during the triple Crimson Qurupeco quest. Best mask ever.
I didn't even face S. Zinogre (outside of the arena) yet and my first item from him is this.
Just got a Stygian Zinogre Skyemerald from Cha-Cha by him "stealing" it from S. Zinogre during the triple Crimson Qurupeco quest. Best mask ever.
I didn't even face S. Zinogre (outside of the arena) yet and my first item from him is this.
ThatObviousUser
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Oh hoh hoh.
Vermillion
Banned
*blink*
Boogalogist
Member
You can feed them?? What happens when you feed them?
Do they turn into Gremlins if you feed them after 12?
Bacon_Boss
Member
Finally getting to rank 8 at the port. I'm not quite done with the villiage quests but I think i'll take this chance to tackle my 3ds backlog. Online play's where most of my hunting will be from here on out.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Add me. thetrin.
I'm always up for playing with gaffers.
Looking to play some more HR2 tonight. Was with a great group of guys that helped me out with Nibelsnarf, Diablos and Gigginox. Might join up with them again to close out some other hunts, and then farm for gear.
I wasn't expecting what happens to the monsters in G Rank - I went back and fought a High Rank Great Jaggi last night to get the final mats for Jaggi X armour and it seemed like it was moving in slow motion in comparison.
The balance seems all out of whack, though. The group I was in was doing the 2 Jaggi & Green Plessy fight for Jaggi parts and Conqueror's Seals. The Jaggis got steamrolled despite their extra ferocity and the Plessy was literally flash underwater, stabbity stab, leave water, pitfall trap, stabbity stab, shock trap, stabbity stab, dead.
On the other hand, the 2 Great Baggi, 2 Lagombi fight is rather intense to solo, as despite the reduced HP due to multiple monsters, Great Baggi's rage mode is utterly ridiculous turbo speed and when he hits, it really hurts!
The balance seems all out of whack, though. The group I was in was doing the 2 Jaggi & Green Plessy fight for Jaggi parts and Conqueror's Seals. The Jaggis got steamrolled despite their extra ferocity and the Plessy was literally flash underwater, stabbity stab, leave water, pitfall trap, stabbity stab, shock trap, stabbity stab, dead.
On the other hand, the 2 Great Baggi, 2 Lagombi fight is rather intense to solo, as despite the reduced HP due to multiple monsters, Great Baggi's rage mode is utterly ridiculous turbo speed and when he hits, it really hurts!
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Damn, coming straight from the MHFU (and a 4 year break from the series), I'm a bit overwhelmed by some of these upgrades. For starters, are telling me I can keep killing monsters, convert them to resource points, and buy all ores I want from those points, or is there something I'm missing?!
This is going to save me a lot of time, especially early on.
Added!
This is going to save me a lot of time, especially early on.
Added!
SparksterMeta0
Member
Going to sleep now.
I managed to capture a Stygian Zinogre.
But man... is that a beast! Barely even survived.
I managed to capture a Stygian Zinogre.
But man... is that a beast! Barely even survived.
Homing electric balls that inflict Dragonblight is NOT fair!
It looks cool, though, because it occasionally strolls around with lightning around it like a boss.
It looks cool, though, because it occasionally strolls around with lightning around it like a boss.
Sorry, late reply.
Yeah I found out you can feed them food that you eat. Not sure if their stats go up or anything but they certainly seem to last longer. I was getting annoyed at how quickly they seem to die in some battles.
Finished the HR7 urgent (Dire Miralis) yesterday, got promoted to HR30, yay!
Also farmed Golden Rathian for his Golden Lune set, almost done with it.
Might try Mark of a Hero again soon!
Monsters i still need to fight (until i've seen every monster in MH3U):
Also farmed Golden Rathian for his Golden Lune set, almost done with it.
Might try Mark of a Hero again soon!
Monsters i still need to fight (until i've seen every monster in MH3U):
- Alatreon
- Silver Rathalos
- Savage Jho
- Abyssal Lagiacrus
- Lucent Nargacuga
- Hallowed Jhen Mohran
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Dem Lava Nuggets, Duramboros Humps; And you will swim in resource points.
Aaand done! Feels good to be on the other side of that. Now for Mark of a Hero...Only 5 village quests left until I unlock Mark of a Hero finally
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Holy crap. I used up 20 mega potions and barely took down I.Lagi... Now to let Brachy and Los hopefully weaken each other
Edit: Failed, and not trying again any time soon. Los and Brachy 2 hit kill me when they're in rage. Not fun :/
Holy crap. I used up 20 mega potions and barely took down I.Lagi... Now to let Brachy and Los hopefully weaken each other
Edit: Failed, and not trying again any time soon. Los and Brachy 2 hit kill me when they're in rage. Not fun :/
I personally just fought them more or less normally (albeit with g-rank gear) but I have a couple ideas on how to make that fight easier.
You could start by waiting on one side of the arena and throwing a smoke bomb before they spawn (right as lagi's corpse disappears) and hope only one of them 'aggros', and fight him on that side of the arena for as long as possible. I forget how close to one another they spawn but this works in some land arena quests.
Otherwise, if you can bring tons of LBB/LBB+/barrels/gunpowder/scatterfish and equip Bombardier/Pyro you could just bomb one of them to hell. It's not safe to attack them very often since they are both aggressive monsters, but it's easy to drop bombs on Rathalos and ragemode Brachy will detonate them for you while blowing himself and Rathalos up.
My usual Farcaster trick applies. Inventory space is at a premium in this quest, of course.
Holy crap. I used up 20 mega potions and barely took down I.Lagi... Now to let Brachy and Los hopefully weaken each other
Edit: Failed, and not trying again any time soon. Los and Brachy 2 hit kill me when they're in rage. Not fun :/
What type of weapon/armor set did you use?