Mr Moose
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There's no tearing in that screenshot on PS4.
The red line shows where it is happening on the Xbox One.
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The red line shows where it is happening on the Xbox One.
Crazychipmunx
Member
Bloodborne doesn't have screen tearing to my knowledge, just unstable frame time
kyliethicc
Member
Its just faster for loads, etc. An external SATA SSD would be the ideal way to store/play older games that don't require the internal SSDs (or the subsequent expansion SSDs, the card on Xbox or an M2 on PS5.)
Thing is you pay almost 2x for 0.5x the size currently. A 2TB HDD is ~ $60 while a 1TB SSD is ~ $110. Hopefully those prices fall.
SportsFan581
Member
You'd have to really examine the whole shot. The typical TV (US NTSC) runs at a constant refresh rate of 60 frames per second (or one frame per 16.66ms) and that is steady regardless of what is coming in. If a system is running at 30fps, you won't see tearing the TV just draws the entire frame twice before moving to the next frame. At 38fps you are taking 23.6ms per frame. In this case the TV runs 1 frame just fine, however, unlike the 30ftp system, the TV doesn't draw the identical frame twice. It draws the same image for the first 6.94ms and then finishes with a new image that is ready (the 30fps is running slower and doesn't finish its next frame until the start of the 3rd frame). This second image is now built from parts of two different frames, if movement happens in that frame you'll get some tearing. Depending on frame timing and the amount of movement that is happening, it may be near impossible to see. The Xbox in shot also has a tearing issue because it is not sticking the 30fps, so at times the TV needs to draw across 3 frames before the system is ready to return the next frame.
Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston
Member
TBH, who needs a bloodborne patch or have Halo infinite when this game exists??I don't think it really matters if there are other next gen racers at launch. If the game looks poor than that's the way it is. Dirt 5 doesn't look good on the XSX and I'm sure it will look worse on the PS5. It's not like we can say that Bugsnax looks amazing because it's the only game of it's type at the PS5s launch.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
Let me help you with some non 720p resolution there
Also there are from an event in early June, that was put back from the start of june. Build has to be from May latest possibly earlier.
Its been 5 or so months now since that build its bound to improve even further, this dirt game is 1 month from release.
GT7 does not have a confirmed release date yet does it?
sircaw
Banned
Has anyone seen
xacto
, my beloved first moggy is missing, and has not come home.
AeneaGames
is still here but that's more to do with shes to large to leave the house.
If your reading this Comeback
xacto
we miss you.
xacto
, my beloved first moggy is missing, and has not come home.
AeneaGames
is still here but that's more to do with shes to large to leave the house.If your reading this Comeback
xacto
we miss you.
Mr Moose
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sircaw
Banned
you should be a fucking SAS Sniper dude.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Has anyone seen
If your reading this Comeback
xacto
has ‘gone to live on a lovely farm’ mate.He’s having a lovely time with all his pussy cat friends, and please ignore the wet bin bag behind the kitchen door.
PSX
Member
Sony a hardware company beats MS on optimization every single time that MS is software company lol doesn't make sense.
PSX
Member
sircaw
Banned
Just because you don't see quality that's not anyone fault but your own.
Bugsnax will outsell both those games, so take your Venom BACK>
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston
Member
Lol never! Give me Goodbye Volcano High or give me death!Just because you don't see quality that's not anyone fault but your own.
Bugsnax will outsell both those games, so take your Venom BACK>
PSX
Member
Just because you don't see quality that's not anyone fault but your own.
Bugsnax will outsell both those games, so take your Venom BACK>
Dancing "gif" well I got nothing just pick on in internet
sircaw
Banned
Lol never! Give me Goodbye Volcano High or give me death!
i would be very careful if i was you, mentioning the mere word volcano around here.
There are certain posters that get really upset about mentioning anything heat-related on the forums.
Its a reportable and bannable offense for people like O Orky . I suggest your edit your post before he sees it.
SportsFan581
Member
Interesting, I didn't know they were using adaptive v-sync on the consoles. LOL
I guess it was a necessity with how low frame rates were getting on the X1 there. I'll say I don't like v-sync when used in a situation like this is showing for PS4 either. The game is jumping between 60 and 30fps like a yoyo, so while the v-sync will stop the tearing, the game will still be jittery as hell. V-sync is best used when you choose settings that are going to lock you into one framerate (30 or 60).
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Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston
Member
Lol
Insane Metal
Member
AeneaGames
Member
Yeah I think it looks good enough for me to enjoy the heck out of it!
I don't have a 120hz display so how it looks in that mode is not my concern. I probably will run it in the image quality mode unless I notice it plays a lot better in the other mode or do what I've done in the past, play image quality first then after some time switch over, then I've seen the nice stuff as well.
Wondering when it will release tho. Ah well might just pick up the PS4 version and not play it and wait until I get my PS5 but I wanna know first what the price will be in the PS store, we should know next week
Setsuna Mudou
Member
You will only notice it if you're playing something fast paced with meaningful screen rotation. Normally you can spot it right away on pc if using a mouse, allowing very fast lateral camera movement. On those racing games you'll notice it mostly when doing a fast corner.
This is resolved with vsync (or some other such technique). In general, if you're running a refresh rate above the max refresh rate your screen can take, this will cause screen tearing. Basically, what should happen to 99.9% of the people trying to play at 120fps in 60hz tvs
One of the downsides of vsync techniques is that you get some additional input lag. In competitive fps you'll most likely trade some tearing for lower input lag as your brain will compensate for it if you're lucky / used to it. But yeah, for some chill console experience you don't want screen tearing like this in any way.
AeneaGames
Member
Exactly, it's why I believe they are doing what I described, start using their own PS3 emulator and allow us to download them besides streaming. Much easier to control what is being played and they can assure an excellent experience!
They might do the same for PS1 and PS2 games...
ToadMan
Member
I idly wondered if the "captured on Xsex" text was technically true, but they were running the Xbone version in BC just to show the game.
Then the 120fps mode was shown so that idea went away!
ToadMan
Member
No idea. Ask codies why they're currently not offering this feature (although the rep did say they'd let people know if that plan changed - so maybe it will, who knows?).
Dave_at_Home
Member
STOP THAT.Prepping for Bully 2. Good work
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Ok guys, after those dirty graphics we've seen previously, I forgot that I didn't make GT7 screenshots. Here are some high-quality, PNG, 4K screenshots I've made from the official trailer. Dynamic 4K@60fps done right, and also has heavy raytracing usage. Probably Sony's new AI image reconstruction is making some magic here, it's simply crazy. Put in mind that this is a pre-alpha build, things will get even better.
Cleanse your eyes, people!
This screenshots shows sub-surface scattering (SSS)
What is real life? Give me my fucking PS5! Sony has shown us the best gaming graphics so far!
Sony is showing some real-life camera effects, like emulating shutter speed effects, focal length bokeh, and some other deficiencies like lens distortion. I love them!
Cleanse your eyes, people!
This screenshots shows sub-surface scattering (SSS)
What is real life? Give me my fucking PS5! Sony has shown us the best gaming graphics so far!
Sony is showing some real-life camera effects, like emulating shutter speed effects, focal length bokeh, and some other deficiencies like lens distortion. I love them!
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devilNprada
Member
Would it be a different kind of save file format? Only reason a non techy like me could think of.
Insane Metal
Member
Uh oh
sircaw
Banned
Ok guys, after those dirty graphics we've seen previously, I forgot that I didn't make GT7 screenshots. Here are some high-quality, PNG, 4K screenshots I've made from the official trailer. Dynamic 4K@60fps done right, and also has heavy raytracing usage. Probably Sony's new AI image reconstruction is making some magic here, it's simply crazy.
Cleanse your eyes, people!
This screenshots shows sub-surface scattering (SSS)
What is real life? Give me my fucking PS5! Sony has shown us the best gaming graphics so far!
Sony is showing some real-life-camera effects, like emulating shutter speed effects, focal length bokeh, and some other deficiencies like lens distortion. I love them!
I don't like car games but damn its pretty.
kyliethicc
Member
Are Godfall and The Medium the only 3rd party games coming out this year that are next-gen (and pc) only?
AeneaGames
Member
And you're glad I'm still here fishy
! Besides you can't go anywhere either because I'm on top of you!
kyliethicc
Member
you more of a Wave Race fan I assume?
sircaw
Banned
Instant Pancake.And you're glad I'm still here fishy
Besides you can't go anywhere either because I'm on top of you!
sircaw
Banned
only car game i liked was burnout paradise i think it was called, it was just fun.
SportsFan581
Member
Have you only tried more sim style racing or some of the crazy ones? I don't really use the Forzas or the GTs, but I have put a lot of hours into some of the crazy driving games like FlatOut or Twisted Metal.
kyliethicc
Member
You'd love Abzu
MasterCornholio
Member
And you're glad I'm still here fishy
Besides you can't go anywhere either because I'm on top of you!
I'll always have a spot on my lap for you.
sircaw
Banned
i think i said this before somewhere down the line, if i was to pick one of the big game franchises i would probably go with forza, Grand Turismo looks to simulated to me, like proper driving, i am in it for the cheap thrills and the pace.
To me and i could be wrong here but Forza looks more arcade to me, and if i was a car racer fan i would of bought an xbox for it.
And yes, i just had a look at flatout, i played that at a friends house like 7 years ago, i think it was on ps4 it was really really fun. i totally forget about that game.
sircaw
Banned
SportsFan581
Member
FlatOut 4 was a bit buggered by the devs, but still fun. FlatOut 2 was perfection in the genre though, IMO.
sircaw
Banned
i can't remember which one is was all i know it was super duper fun.
sircaw
Banned
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
That and fast 'cold storage' and transfer of PS5 games I guess.
ToadMan
Member
Difficult to say. It might be something about the format of the underlying data and data structures that requires effort to convert but to me that's a relatively simple programming task.
If I had to guess, I'd say it was something to do with save file encryption on PS4 for a particular install on a particular account, and just moving the file to the PS5 isn't enough - there's a "dance" to do and they don't want to invest the time.
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