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[Garani]

Is this one a native port?

A bit. They recompiled the engine to support the capabilities of the new machines (they now have a 120hz performance mode) but the game is basically the same and doesn't really use the new machines.

You can see that from the performance mode: it's the worse we have seen to date. But of course XSX dips don't matter because of VRR that basically no one has and will be activated by Sony as well SoonTM

 

[kyliethicc]

Does anyone have any info about PS5 UHD player capabilities? The 4k UHD Lord of the Rings is just about to be released and I wanted to buy it as my first UHD movie but... I don't have UHD player cuz I waited for Ps5.

I know the PS5 supports 4K UHD BDs and HDR10, and Dolby Atmos and DTS:X for BD playback. Just no Dolby Vision, but it can output 12 bit color w/ HDR anyways.

Do you know if the LOTR UHDBDs are the extended cuts?

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

A bit. They recompiled the engine to support the capabilities of the new machines (they now have a 120hz performance mode) but the game is basically the same and doesn't really use the new machines.

You can see that from the performance mode: it's the worse we have seen to date. But of course XSX dips don't matter because of VRR that basically no one has and will be activated by Sony as well SoonTM

Is also seems that graphics settings are the same from X and Pro, which is disappointing. Hope they patch it.

 

[Dave_at_Home]

Can't be a draw.

One is using smt at all times with unified cache.

The other is either single threaded at higher speeds or multi threaded with a 100mhz advantage and no unified cache.

I don't think there's any clear picture yet of what sort of difference the CPU performance is. It's always GPU talk. If someone has insight I'm all ears. With that said, Sony made the right call unifying L3 cache to maximize performance.

 

[FunkMiller]

I know the PS5 supports 4K UHD BDs and HDR10, and Dolby Atmos and DTS:X for BD playback. Just no Dolby Vision, but it can output 12 bit color w/ HDR anyways.

Do you know if the LOTR UHDBDs are the extended cuts?

Indeed they are. Had the box set delivered today. Both versions included, in fact.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Lizbert got a cut, the doctor is medicating her. The doctor says: "You're lucky it's just a shallow cut. And stop squirming around or I'll have to restrain you".

Now, take a kid with a cut and try to medicate him/her. They'll be crying, squirming, trying to run away. This is the quote, this is what they are saying. They are relating to a kid's experience with pain and injuries. There is nothing sexual.

And the camera joke, it's put in context by the doctor: "trying to look strong for your audience"?

I am sorry, I really can't see the sexual undertone. I get it that you see it, but it isn't there IMO.

The doctor is not the one being flirty or using sexual innuendo.. the obviously flirty character turned the doctor's innocent comment about restraints into sexual innuendo... the doctor who seems not super comfortable with being flirted with, then de-sexualized it with the comment about looking strong.. but for the flirty character, there is no other reason than sexual innuendo to say the "not on camera" comment.. the doctor isn't "Giving context" she's trying to make the sexual innuendo joke go away.. they also do the obvious "ahem" thing implying the subject needs changed.

Sorry I called you a liar, this is all kinda pointless either way lol

 

[kyliethicc]

Indeed they are. Had the box set delivered today. Both versions included, in fact.

Enjoy! Love those films (and books.) How do they look?

 

[TheGejsza]

I know the PS5 supports 4K UHD BDs and HDR10, and Dolby Atmos and DTS:X for BD playback. Just no Dolby Vision, but it can output 12 bit color w/ HDR anyways.

Do you know if the LOTR UHDBDs are the extended cuts?

AFAIK you get both versions (normal and extended) and additionally code for online version (for YT, Apple TV etc)

 

[TheGejsza]

Indeed they are. Had the box set delivered today. Both versions included, in fact.

Are you playing them na Ps5? Can you tell something about quality? How's SFX like gollum and some scenes with Oliphants? I've heard that new color grading makes SFX blend in better.

 

[Garani]

Sorry I called you a liar, this is all kinda pointless either way lol

I respect your point of view, but please be a bit less edgy and give the benefit of the doubt. And you are right, in the end it's just pointless.

I asked my wife and she does hear a bit of a sexy undertone, but she added that the kids won't get it anyway and if the game is fun to play who cares. But trust me, for the life of me, I don't get the sexy part. Honest to God!

 

[IntentionalPun]

I respect your point of view, but please be a bit less edgy and give the benefit of the doubt. And you are right, in the end it's just pointless.

I asked my wife and she does hear a bit of a sexy undertone, but she added that the kids won't get it anyway and if the game is fun to play who cares. But trust me, for the life of me, I don't get the sexy part. Honest to God!

I'm not edgy, that's just my samurai sword.

 

[kyliethicc]

Are you playing them na Ps5? Can you tell something about quality? How's SFX like gollum and some scenes with Oliphants? I've heard that new color grading makes SFX blend in better.

I just read the new 4K releases got rid of the infamous "green tint" on Fellowship from the old Blu-ray release. And reviews seem very positive about the video and audio quality.

The LOTR 4K UHDBDs have Dolby Atmos / True HD audio and Dolby Vision or HDR10. So the PS5 should work fine for the audio, and will be good enough for the 4k HDR10 video.

Neither console seems to have the ideal implementation of Dolby Vision for UHDBD playback, but oh well. I bet it looks great anyways.

 

[sircaw]

I'm not edgy, that's just my samurai sword.

i was going to say Harry Dresden, no idea why.

 

[THEAP99]

This is thread worthy and imo fuck sony if true:

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According to the source, the new console has been called PS5 Lite for now and its sale is forecast for the second half of 2021 . With this version, the Japanese manufacturer would have the purpose of solving the shortage and completing the demand for its recent launch PlayStation 5 , which in some countries is sold out and as a consequence has generated a shot in prices. Indicates the medium that the company's production capacity has been insufficient and worsened due to the coronavirus pandemic.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

You know your nose is up that MS ass when you defending windows 8

Except that windows 8 UI was absolutely shitty

I never liked the Metro UI, and I never said I did.

But it bogs my mind that some people here bash Microsoft for that horrendous Metro UI but defend with their lives the PSN Store UI changes.

Microsoft learned their lesson, and is sticking to what works. But at the same time people are hating Microsoft for not being "revolutionary" like Sony at the cost of functionality and usability

 

[Imtjnotu]

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No controller. No disk drive. No side plates. No hdmi out.

Just a box

 

[SlimySnake]

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4 tflops PS5?

Fuck that.

I also dont know how thats going to fix any shortages.

 

[kyliethicc]

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lol no

 

[kyliethicc]

No controller. No disk drive. No side plates. No hdmi out.

Just a box

No main chip inside either, just a fan and SSD wrapped in plastic lol - $99 PS5 Lite

"CeRnY hAs beTraYeD pS FaNs AgAiN"

 

[Mr Moose]

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It's the digital edition, that's their cheaper PS5.

 

[TheGejsza]

TL;DW
4k 60 FPS got a few drops on both consoles but they are almost identical framerate-wise and mostly stable with spikes to 50FPS here and there. PS5 has visible better (sharper) shadows and visible more foliage - albeit the difference is not huge.
120FPS 1080p mode works pretty well (80-120 range) but its about 5-15 FPS higher on XSX and thanks to VRR it's less noticable. Still PS5 got better shadows and foliage.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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Meanwhile, Xbox Series X 100 dollars cheaper with a controller included

 

[HoofHearted]

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looks like they want to possibly address and compete at XSS pricepoint (assuming Lite version would be ~$299)?

 

[PaintTinJr]

This is unrelated with the headroom that PC's has, nor the upgradability.

DDR4 on PC does NOT bottleneck the GDDR6 even when the CPU DOES NOT SHARE cache with the GPU. When gaming on PC, the CPU is used for things like audio, draw calls and physics. This is NO diffrerent of how SERIES X operates. DDR 4 is used for the slow parts (audio etc.) and the fast pool for the GPU parts.

It seems that this is too difficult for people here to understand ..

Your comment is a bit odd and the upper case part seems like a complete strawman.

All things being equal - that can be equal - a heterogeneous APU(CPU+GPU) with unified memory will outperform a discrete PC system made with the same specs & combined total memory - with a modern game engine like UE4.

The XsX is a hybrid setup - because of its memory pools - but it still incurs the major disadvantage of a discrete system.

 

[FunkMiller]

Enjoy! Love those films (and books.) How do they look?

Are you playing them na Ps5? Can you tell something about quality? How's SFX like gollum and some scenes with Oliphants? I've heard that new color grading makes SFX blend in better.

I‘ve only had a quick look at Fellowship on my CX with my Ps5, and the quality is excellent. Obviously it wasn’t filmed for 4k, so the print has the grain you’d expect from a twenty year old movie, but the picture is very sharp despite this. They‘ve done a good job on it. Better than blu ray, definitely. Sound mix on my 7.1 soundbar is phenomenal too.

 

[SgtCaffran]

The doctor is not the one being flirty or using sexual innuendo.. the obviously flirty character turned the doctor's innocent comment about restraints into sexual innuendo... the doctor who seems not super comfortable with being flirted with, then de-sexualized it with the comment about looking strong.. but for the flirty character, there is no other reason than sexual innuendo to say the "not on camera" comment.. the doctor isn't "Giving context" she's trying to make the sexual innuendo joke go away.. they also do the obvious "ahem" thing implying the subject needs changed.

Just checking but you do realise that the main character and doctor are in fact lovers? I would say that flirting in a relationship is perfectly normal. So is trying to change the convo of you know you are being filmed when that happens.

And even if there is a sexual joke in a game, kids won't get it, it's target audience is the adults. It's a very widely used tactic in children's movies and TV shows. I don't understand the panic. Overprotected kids?

 

[bitbydeath]

Weird. PS5 version of multiplats keeps having more foliage and little details than the Series X version. That's been the case for what, 3 games now?

So what happens if the GPU needs more than 10Gb?

 

[IntentionalPun]

Just checking but you do realise that the main character and doctor are in fact lovers? I would say that flirting in a relationship is perfectly normal. So is trying to change the convo of you know you are being filmed when that happens.

And even if there is a sexual joke in a game, kids won't get it, it's target audience is the adults. It's a very widely used tactic in children's movies and TV shows. I don't understand the panic. Overprotected kids?

Yes, vague sex jokes are totally fine in kids material... the poster I was talking to said their was no sexual innuendo, so I was just explaining it.

But no I didn't realize they were in an actual relationship; I've got no interest in the game.

 

[Reficul]

And even if there is a sexual joke in a game, kids won't get it, it's target audience is the adults. It's a very widely used tactic in children's movies and TV shows. I don't understand the panic. Overprotected kids?

This!
When the Kids are smart enough to get the so called sexual innuendo, they should be aware that persons of the same sex can be together. And they should learn that there isn't anything wrong with that.

Jeebus, what years is this? 1920? Do people still look at homosexuality as a disease?

I'm concerned about people being concerned about this. This snowflaky behaviour is pissing me off. Grow up people.



Sorry about the rant. Still upset that I haven't been able to get my hands on a PS5 yet.

 

[IntentionalPun]

This!
When the Kids are smart enough to get the so called sexual innuendo, they should be aware that persons of the same sex can be together. And they should learn that there isn't anything wrong with that.

Jeebus, what years is this? 1920? Do people still look at homosexuality as a disease?

I'm concerned about people being concerned about this. This snowflaky behaviour is pissing me off. Grow up people.



Sorry about the rant. Still upset that I haven't been able to get my hands on a PS5 yet.

Please keep in mind most of us discussing this aren't concerned by it lol

 

[THEAP99]

Writer and director of days gone:

 

[Reficul]

Please keep in mind most of us discussing this aren't concerned by it lol

I didn't reply to you, but you seemed to be quite agitated there for a while. Sorry if you felt offended by my post.

But your post is another things that gets on my nerves these days. I'm talking about the lol. Did you really find it so funny that you laughed out loud? If you did I find your sense of humour really lacking. Sorry to break it to you. It just wasn't that funny.

 

[mansoor1980]

Writer and director of days gone:

worked with sony bend for 20 years , damn.

 

[THEAP99]

Game director for days gone:



What's going on? Is Sony pulling the plug on bend?

 

[SlimySnake]

Weird. PS5 version of multiplats keeps having more foliage and little details than the Series X version. That's been the case for what, 3 games now?

thats because all these multiplats are using the base xbox one and base ps4 settings. so whatever upgrades the base ps4 version was getting was also ported to the PS4 Pro and now the PS5. Tom mentioned how the xbox one has the same foliage quality and shadows.

I suspect devs are not optimizing anything for the xbox series x despite what those fancy stickers on the boxarts say. it's just another lie from the MS camp. they must have known that these games werent optimized anymore than a simple fps and resolution boost. devs shipping on 7 consoles and PC during covid were never gonna do that.

though the fact that the xbox series x cant handle worse shadows and foliage in borderlands, lower level of detail in dirt 5, worse rt shadows and complete lack of muzzle flash and smoke effects in cod without dropping frames is probably not a good look either.

 

[SlimySnake]

Game director for days gone:



What's going on? Is Sony pulling the plug on bend?

thats too bad. i loved days gone, but the gaming media sent it to die.

sony bend didnt do it any favors by making the first few hours a fucking slog, and some shoddy work during early cutscenes and voice work. it makes a really bad first impression and you cant do that with a new IP. 8 years to make this game is probably too long too.

still, if sony pulls the plug i will be pretty fucking pissed. sony is more profitable than they have ever been and they need to support these risky studios more than ever now.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Game director for days gone:



What's going on? Is Sony pulling the plug on bend?

Eh.. it's 2 people.

Good money bet would be these 2 guys are going to join a new studio or are creating one. Notice the ginormous coincidence that the guy who we previously didn't know about timed an announcement about their past year "break" to coincide?

We are now talking about the departures more than we would if it was a single person leaving Bend... hmmmmm...

 

[IntentionalPun]

I didn't reply to you, but you seemed to be quite agitated there for a while. Sorry if you felt offended by my post.

But your post is another things that gets on my nerves these days. I'm talking about the lol. Did you really find it so funny that you laughed out loud? If you did I find your sense of humour really lacking. Sorry to break it to you. It just wasn't that funny.

No.. I wasn't offended.. and in fact the lol you just ranted about was just an attempt at getting across my comment to you wasn't in any sort of offense.

Spoiler

lol

 

[THEAP99]

Eh.. it's 2 people.

Good money bet would be these 2 guys are going to join a new studio or are creating one. Notice the ginormous coincidence that the guy who we previously didn't know about timed an announcement about their past year "break" to coincide?

We are now talking about the departures more than we would if it was a single person leaving Bend... hmmmmm...

Imo it could mean nothing. But it's strange to me that both main minds behind the first game would dip like this. I wonder if Sony shook things up maybe.

thats too bad. i loved days gone, but the gaming media sent it to die.

sony bend didnt do it any favors by making the first few hours a fucking slog, and some shoddy work during early cutscenes and voice work. it makes a really bad first impression and you cant do that with a new IP. 8 years to make this game is probably too long too.

still, if sony pulls the plug i will be pretty fucking pissed. sony is more profitable than they have ever been and they need to support these risky studios more than ever now.

I honeslty wouldn't classify days gone as a risky game itself, i mean it was pretty standard open world game.. But, it was a risk for sony and bend themselves, and one I felt was needed. Risks must always be taken and I think Bend have potential for Days Gone 2 to make a huge jump..

But I wonder with Jim Ryan's recent attitude about new IPS being risky is in reference to Death Stranding and Days Gone not doing much?

They are working on a new IP perhaps

 

[Shmunter]

Glad I didn't buy Control recently.. will add that to the backlog..

Needs to be the ultimate edition for it to be next gen however

 

[IntentionalPun]

Imo it could mean nothing. But it's strange to me that both main minds behind the first game would dip like this. I wonder if Sony shook things up maybe.

Well one guy left a year ago. 2 people over a year is pretty normal stuff.

John Garvin said "Over the past two decades, I helped the studio grow into a major developer, now part of the Sony family. " in a separate tweet...so he definitely doesn't seem to think Bend Studios are shutting down lol

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

 

[Mahavastu]

I don't deny is faster but use such solution especially when you have to fill so many CUs not seem exactly so practical. The only reason because MS did this is for their priorities in the multiplat development and not because it gives any sort of benefit in the series X hardware. For example the problematic performance I seen in Valhalla seems caused to such configuration.

Especially if you have that many CUs you need any bandwith you can get to feed them. You have to see what alternatives XBox had and what advantages / disadvantages other solutions had.
I assume that both, the current bandwith is "not enough" and there are other bottlenecks in the XSX, which forces the CUs to idle because the data do not arrive fast enough. There have to be reasons why the performance difference on paper is not realized.

In the end we do not know much more then leakers with anonymous sources tell us about the PS5 architecture. It would be really interesting

 

[Metroiddarks]

I'm really not trying to talk shit to him. Objectively speaking, you see how this is working out. Games run just as good, if not a little more so at times, on PS5. Both systems are stupid close to each other and I don't find multi-platform games worth dissecting. Depending on how well optimized each platform is, is probably where any difference will show.

Still, I can't help but laugh at how desperate some hardcore fans of team green have become. They look at the performance of the PS5 and think there's something wrong with the tools/developers when it comes to Series X. I think Series X and PS5 are performing exactly as they should. They just didn't want to investigate exactly how the PS5 works. What's absolutely clear at this point, is PS5 has superior latency and data throughput. That's how it matches Series X. Ultimately, what really annoys me, is I really do think Series X is a great console and don't like to come across as bashing it.

Exactly the third party games are so close that de DF analisis are becoming boring.

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They are selling everything they produce they don't need a cheaper product just produce more PS5s and
regarding PS5 slim yes will exists in 3-4 years from now, not the next year, the people who think that is crazy
or just try to justified to themselves why is not worth it buy that console, like if was easy to buy one.

Imo it could mean nothing. But it's strange to me that both main minds behind the first game would dip like this. I wonder if Sony shook things up maybe.



I honeslty wouldn't classify days gone as a risky game itself, i mean it was pretty standard open world game.. But, it was a risk for sony and bend themselves, and one I felt was needed. Risks must always be taken and I think Bend have potential for Days Gone 2 to make a huge jump..

But I wonder with Jim Ryan's recent attitude about new IPS being risky is in reference to Death Stranding and Days Gone not doing much?

They are working on a new IP perhaps

The people change of work a lot in that industry and not Days Gone is not something considered an example of what Sony can do, yes I know
the sales were good but the critics doesn't and for Sony that is also important.

 

[Sinthor]

I'm not edgy, that's just my samurai sword.

Holy shit! The length of that sword is impractical as HELL unless you were on horseback but damn...it is impressive!

 

[MasterCornholio]

Holy shit! The length of that sword is impractical as HELL unless you were on horseback but damn...it is impressive!

 

[Sinthor]

This!
When the Kids are smart enough to get the so called sexual innuendo, they should be aware that persons of the same sex can be together. And they should learn that there isn't anything wrong with that.

Jeebus, what years is this? 1920? Do people still look at homosexuality as a disease?

I'm concerned about people being concerned about this. This snowflaky behaviour is pissing me off. Grow up people.



Sorry about the rant. Still upset that I haven't been able to get my hands on a PS5 yet.

Man...people need to calm down. The initial comment was just someone saying the sexual innuendo wasn't appropriate for a kids game. NOTHING about same sex, etc. Quit trying to make it more than it was! Bottom line, there's an argument to be made about not including adult references in kids material. That's just a parenting decision. Not sure Bugsnax is even targeted at kids- I don't think it actually is. But bottom line there's an argument to be made for that. We don't have to turn that into some huge SJW crusade. The reference is there and some may be offended by it. That's fine and they can make their choices accordingly. For myself, I could care less what someone else decides to play or not play, or material to watch or not watch. I decide for myself what I will play or watch. But, I won't dismiss anyone's concerns about such things either...those are valid viewpoints, for them. Not everyone has to be accepting of everything that we ourselves are. Thats actual diversity versus conformity, by the way. I won't force my POV on anyone and make damn sure nobody's going to force their POV on ME.

 

[Sinthor]

thats because all these multiplats are using the base xbox one and base ps4 settings. so whatever upgrades the base ps4 version was getting was also ported to the PS4 Pro and now the PS5. Tom mentioned how the xbox one has the same foliage quality and shadows.

I suspect devs are not optimizing anything for the xbox series x despite what those fancy stickers on the boxarts say. it's just another lie from the MS camp. they must have known that these games werent optimized anymore than a simple fps and resolution boost. devs shipping on 7 consoles and PC during covid were never gonna do that.

though the fact that the xbox series x cant handle worse shadows and foliage in borderlands, lower level of detail in dirt 5, worse rt shadows and complete lack of muzzle flash and smoke effects in cod without dropping frames is probably not a good look either.

I agree. I think the "optimization" being done for the new consoles via these free patches, is the low hanging fruit. Easier to provide higher frame rate options without retooling, not gonna see 8k textures and objects like on the UE5 demo or anything either. Basically these free patches will give us a version that is not quite native but runs better than just pure BC mode on the new hardware. So it's cool...good to have, but I won't buy a game specifically for that. I AM looking forward to The Witcher 3 getting a patch as I'm hopeful it will give us the fast loading times, etc. and maybe 60fps? But that's about it.

 

[Self High Five]

Xbox Series S has been in stock on Bestbuy's Canadian website nation wide for over the past 8 hours:

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/xbox-series-s-512gb-console-new-model-online-only/14964950

Series X allocation is rumored to have been sold out in less than 20 minutes.

lol

 

[LiquidRex]

I have to say with all the talk of XSS holding back the XSX... If Sony choose to follow suit, it's a fail for me in my opinion...