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[Bogroll]

Compression is still better on PS5 though. So using Kraken and maybe Oodle Textures would give you a smaller file size than just the XSX version. I'm guessing the only version that would be smaller than the XSX version in the Xbox family would be the XSS version due to using lower quality assets.

72gb, downloading now XSS and if I like I will transfer to XSX.

 

[MasterCornholio]

72gb, downloading now XSS and if I like I will transfer to XSX.

Weird the XSS should be smaller unless it's using the same assets.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

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what did he say?

microsoft in last minute bought Housemarque, Returnal day 1 on gamepass

 

[dcmk7]

microsoft in last minute bought Housemarque, Returnal day 1 on gamepass

 

[Neo Blaster]

Both fit on the same size BR disk. Its probably redundant data.

Dear God...

 

[MasterCornholio]

Dear God...

 

[Riky]

So it's really 36.2GB?
Also, someone who can download the Series X version can check if you are correct, they'll only download one version.

I know I'm correct, all the Series games I own I can download onto the External card and play on either a Series X or S with no download, the same file works on both machines.

 

[SlimySnake]

lol im saving this for later. one of my favorite episodes.

 

[Mr Moose]

I know I'm correct, all the Series games I own I can download onto the External card and play on either a Series X or S with no download, the same file works on both machines.

So it's not very smart delivery, is that what you are saying? Having both versions together would be a waste of space.
Maybe, just maybe, the game is the same size on both because it's the same game and there won't be any improvements between them, it's a PS4 game.

 

[Riky]

So it's not very smart delivery, is that what you are saying? Having both versions together would be a waste of space.
Maybe, just maybe, the game is the same size on both because it's the same game and there won't be any improvements between them, it's a PS4 game.

It's not just this game, it's all Series games. There is one file size that contains everything for both versions. Like I said put the file on a Seagate storage card and you can swap between machines no problem.

 

[Mr Moose]

It's not just this game, it's all Series games. There is one file size that contains everything for both versions. Like I said put the file on a Seagate storage card and you can swap between machines no problem.

So it's like a PS4 Pro game being the same size as a PS4 game?
I thought some are different sizes, like CoD on the Series S?

 

[Riky]

So it's like a PS4 Pro game being the same size as a PS4 game?
I thought some are different sizes, like CoD on the Series S?

You can "shrink" some games if you wish, I presume it removes specific Series X stuff if you want to save space on Series S, but you don't have to and I don't because I move the games between machines.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You can "shrink" some games if you wish, I presume it removes specific Series X stuff if you want to save space on Series S, but you don't have to and I don't because I move the games between machines.

Removing the Series S version wouldn't make the Series X version smaller if that's what you think

 

[roops67]

Trying to buy a PS5 is friggin hard. I need advice off anyone who's bought one in the UK, how did you do it??

Its been a few months now I've been daily checking for stocks at every possible outlet, but I'm seeing absolutely nowt nothing zero zilch kaput. Sales are reported as record breaking, so I must be doing it wrong?!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

It's not just this game, it's all Series games. There is one file size that contains everything for both versions. Like I said put the file on a Seagate storage card and you can swap between machines no problem.

I never tested this since I only have the XSX, but if true, Cerny is a big fat liar

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Riky you're supposed to use the triggered emoji not the LOL emoji

Stay in character please

 

[Mr Moose]

I never tested this since I only have the XSX, but if true, Cerny is a big fat liar

It's the same as a PS4 Pro game being the same size as a PS4 game, its the same game.

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

Naughty Dog says it’s still struggling with multi-project development​

“We tried our first major multi-project development with The Last of Us,” Wells said. “At the end of Uncharted 2, Bruce Straley and Neil Druckmann went off to start designing [that], although they did spend a good, solid three or four months working on Jak and Daxter before they decided to shelve it and focus on something new.

“They embarked on that and the idea was we would build a team around it and have two teams going at once, and we just did not achieve that at all.
He added: “The amount of effort that was required to finish Uncharted 3 at the time was stealing resources away from The Last of Us, and we never got to the point where we had two full productions going.

“I would say even today we’re just short of that. We definitely have multiple projects, but only one that is getting the lion’s share of focus at any time.
“We don’t have two projects that have several hundred people on them. We have one [project] and then some that are in pre-production, or maybe just creeping out of pre-production, but will have to wait until the main focus has completed before we move everybody off of that project.”

“We did a lot of work at the end of The Last of Us 2… we’ve made some pretty big changes,” Wells said. “We’re adding more titles and hierarchy to our studio. We’ve always been trying to hold onto those garage days, [like] back in the days when I joined and I was the 14th employee, and try and maintain that nimbleness. But now we’re 300 people in the studio and things have to change, right?

“We’ve got principle employees now, we’ve just promoted a bunch of VPs as well, we’re adding more leads… something that we’ve traditionally done on productions in the past is our leads and directors would still be too hands-on to where they didn’t have enough time to manage their team and people, so we’re freeing them up to do that.”

Naughty Dog says it’s still struggling with multi-project development | VGC

“We definitely have multiple projects, but only one that is getting the lion’s share of focus”…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[MasterCornholio]

Trying to buy a PS5 is friggin hard. I need advice off anyone who's bought one in the UK, how did you do it??

Its been a few months now I've been daily checking for stocks at every possible outlet, but I'm seeing absolutely nowt nothing zero zilch kaput. Sales are reported as record breaking, so I must be doing it wrong?!

I haven't tried doing this but some people say to follow certain twitter accounts that constantly give out stock updates.

 

[Riky]

I never tested this since I only have the XSX, but if true, Cerny is a big fat liar

I can assure you it's true, the Series S can't store many games so I've got the 1tb expansion card full of games I just move between the Series X and S, it just works with no issues.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Naughty Dog says it’s still struggling with multi-project development​

Naughty Dog says it’s still struggling with multi-project development | VGC

“We definitely have multiple projects, but only one that is getting the lion’s share of focus”…

www.videogameschronicle.com

WoW and with all that they still deliver some great games. I'm impressed.

Hopefully they can resolve this because it would really help with their output.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

It's the same as a PS4 Pro game being the same size as a PS4 game, its the same game.

Idk about PS4Pro but XSX and XSS often have different texture qualities for example. On XSX you don't need XSS textures. If they're still included it kinda unnecessarily bloats the game size.

 

[Mr Moose]

Idk about PS4Pro but XSX and XSS often have different texture qualities for example. On XSX you don't need XSS textures. If they're still included it kinda unnecessarily bloats the game size.

Then that would make Riky wrong, the game size would be one or the other, not both together.

 

[Riky]

Then that would make Riky wrong, the game size would be one or the other, not both together.

How can I be wrong when I literally do this every day?

 

[assurdum]

I never tested this since I only have the XSX, but if true, Cerny is a big fat liar

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Idk about PS4Pro but XSX and XSS often have different texture qualities for example. On XSX you don't need XSS textures. If they're still included it kinda unnecessarily bloats the game size.

They aren't using duplicate textures lol. XSS isn't adding to the XSX file size

 

[Mr Moose]

How can I be wrong when I literally do this every day?

So its just one version of the game. There is no Series S version and Series X version, it's just one game.

 

[MasterCornholio]

How can I be wrong when I literally do this every day?

So how big is the XSX version after deleting the XSS version?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Riky what did I say about the LOL Emoji?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

They aren't using duplicate textures lol. XSS isn't adding to the XSX file size

If the game works on both consoles, and has different textures on both consoles, it kinda has to add XSS textures to the XSX file size.

 

[assurdum]

If the game works on both consoles, and has different textures on both consoles, it kinda has to add XSS textures to the XSX file size.

 

[Riky]

So its just one version of the game. There is no Series S version and Series X version, it's just one game.

There is one file size, it contains everything you need to play on both Series X and Series S. Nobody knows apart from the developer how much difference it would make if you just had versions specific to each machine, obviously there must be a certain amount of code specific to each machine.
But I can 100% guarantee you that if I download a game on my Series X to the expansion card and take that card and plug it into my Series S the game plays no problem instantly.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

If the game works on both consoles, and has different textures on both consoles, it kinda has to add XSS textures to the XSX file size.

Except they're not using different textures

 

[Zoro7]

All this time we were made to think smart delivery was a god send. Turns out its also a waste of space.....LITERALLY!

 

[MasterCornholio]

If the game works on both consoles, and has different textures on both consoles, it kinda has to add XSS textures to the XSX file size.

Isn't smart delivery suppose to download only what you need? Because if it does it would reduce the XSX file size and make the install and download faster.

 

[Riky]

So how big is the XSX version after deleting the XSS version?

You can't delete the Series S version.

 

[roops67]

I haven't tried doing this but some people say to follow certain twitter accounts that constantly give out stock updates.

Yes checking them too, they'll report now an then that stock is expected arrive to a certain chain but ever time I followed it up the store still has no stock . Want to hear from people who have succeeded

 

[Mr Moose]

There is one file size, it contains everything you need to play on both Series X and Series S. Nobody knows apart from the developer how much difference it would make if you just had versions specific to each machine, obviously there must be a certain amount of code specific to each machine.
But I can 100% guarantee you that if I download a game on my Series X to the expansion card and take that card and plug it into my Series S the game plays no problem instantly.

Yup, it's like a PS4 Pro game played on a PS4 via external HDD.

 

[SlimySnake]

Naughty Dog says it’s still struggling with multi-project development​

Naughty Dog says it’s still struggling with multi-project development | VGC

“We definitely have multiple projects, but only one that is getting the lion’s share of focus”…

www.videogameschronicle.com

man this is frustrating. its been a decade since U3. you would think sony wouldve been able to create multiple teams in studios since then.

cant believe they are only 300 people. they need to be double that size to do two games at once.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Except they're not using different textures

There are several games where XSS has lower resolution textures compared to XSX.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

There are several games where XSS has lower resolution textures compared to XSX.

Lower resolution =/= different textures

That's called compression and decompression. XSS uses compressed XSX textures.

 

[MasterCornholio]

You can't delete the Series S version.

But why is the Series S version the same size as the Series X version?

In a new interview at IGN with Xbox's Director of Program Management Jason Ronald, he confirmed that game install sizes should be "approximately 30% smaller" on the Xbox Series S compared to the Series X. The main factor making the difference seems to be the resolution: the Series S is aiming for 1440p resolution, rather than the Series X's 4K target.

Xbox Series S's Install Sizes Will Be Smaller Than the Series X's

Lower resolution target, smaller file size.

www.usgamer.net

 

[ethomaz]

If the game works on both consoles, and has different textures on both consoles, it kinda has to add XSS textures to the XSX file size.

How Smart Delivery works? It should only download the target texture to the platform, no?

I mean on Xbox One it downloaded the non-HD assets and on Xbox One X it downloaded the HD pack textures.

That is now transparent to SmartDelivery... it already downloads the version of the textures you choose to download the game.

That is how I understand it, no?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Lower resolution =/= different textures

That's called compression and decompression. XSS uses compressed XSX textures.

 

[ethomaz]

But why is the Series S version the same size as the Series X version?

Xbox Series S's Install Sizes Will Be Smaller Than the Series X's

Lower resolution target, smaller file size.

www.usgamer.net

Yeap the ideia of having both version of the game being downloaded to all platforms is no Smart at all.

It is Smart because it downloads only the textures the target platform will use... in the case of the both version using the same texture then it will download the same for both.

 

[Riky]

But why is the Series S version the same size as the Series X version?

Xbox Series S's Install Sizes Will Be Smaller Than the Series X's

Lower resolution target, smaller file size.

www.usgamer.net

It isn't the same size, it's one file that contains both versions of the game.

 

[SportsFan581]

Weird the XSS should be smaller unless it's using the same assets.

What are the specific advancements between the last-gen and current-gen versions? Are there a log of graphics specific improvements for PS5/XSX that would need to be cut for the XSS version?

 

[Riky]

Yeap the ideia of having both version of the game being downloaded to all platforms is no Smart at all.

It is Smart because it downloads only the textures the target platform will use... in the case of the both version using the same texture then it will download the same for both.

There isn't two versions to download, there is one version that plays on both machines. It doesn't download only what the target platform needs because the file works on both machines without the need for any additional download, that goes for all the Series games.

 

[skit_data]

It isn't the same size, it's one file that contains both versions of the game.

So if you download a game on your Series S, transfer it to the expansion SSD and then plug it into the Series X and boot the game it will download additional duplicates of assets already found on the SSD but in higher resolution? While keeping the lower quality assets, not replacing them?

 

[assurdum]

We have reached a new hit. Now lower textures resolution increase the whole file size of a game when you use the higher ones.