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[CyberPanda]

Benjii still post on resetera and in the topic about ps5 and next xbox he said that he continue to hear higher teraflops for ps5, much higher than 8. Indeed he asked in the thread why people was too obsessed with this 8 tf and from where this number it jumped out!

He asked for a self ban. So, he doesn’t post there anymore lol.

 

[ethomaz]

Benjii still post on resetera and in the topic about ps5 and next xbox he said that he continue to hear higher teraflops for ps5, much higher than 8. Indeed he asked in the thread why people was too obsessed with this 8 tf and from where this number it jumped out!

The self ban was yesterday.

I read that he denied both 8 and 11 TFs and that what he heard is way over 8 TFs but yesterday he asked selfban (you can see here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ca...over-12m-users-ps4-on-2017.13665/post-2714964).

 

[Fake]

Do you live far from Foz do Iguacu/Ciudad Del Este? electronics are cheap over there "black market"

I really don't trust those 'black market'. Saraiva normaly used to sell great quality Xbox acessory. Maybe when nextbox launch they reduce the elite price. Or even if they release this suppose xbox elite revision 2.0, maybe the old one get a discount.

 

[luca_29_bg]

He asked for a self ban. So, he doesn’t post there anymore lol.

He posted this yesterday, and in the ps5 thread speculation he posted days ago.

 

[Fake]

Benjii still post on resetera and in the topic about ps5 and next xbox he said that he continue to hear higher teraflops for ps5, much higher than 8. Indeed he asked in the thread why people was too obsessed with this 8 tf and from where this number it jumped out!

In his profile has a huge 'self-ban' tag there just like my acc. If you follow him on twitter you'll know.

He posted this yesterday, and in the ps5 thread speculation he posted days ago.

Its because he 'requested' a self-ban, thats not mean his account get a instant ban. Probably Shinobi or Zhuge trying to convice him to stay.

 

[luca_29_bg]

The self ban was yesterday.

I read that he denied both 8 and 11 TFs and that what he heard is way over 8 TFs but yesterday he asked selfban (you can see here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ca...over-12m-users-ps4-on-2017.13665/post-2714964).

I know but this don't change that he replied in that thread days ago and he said what you have written!

 

[luca_29_bg]

In his profile has a huge 'self-ban' tag there just like my acc. If you follow him on twitter you'll know.

This don't change what he said in that thread. ^^

 

[SonGoku]

I know but this don't change that he replied in that thread days ago and he said what you have written!

If you could fish that link for me I'd appreciate it

 

[luca_29_bg]

If you could fish that link for me I'd appreciate it

i'm trying to find it in the thread but for some reason i can't! But he said what ethomaz has written !

 

[luca_29_bg]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...-anaconda-dont-want-none.112607/post-21172754 found it!

 

[Fake]

Reading that thread about Xbox games coming to older Xbox devices is really kinda of mix bag. BC its a killing feature no doub, but that don't mean I want Nextbox/PS5 to have one year crossplataform with old devices. Some exclusives for takind advantage of the new machine are most better imo.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...-anaconda-dont-want-none.112607/post-21172754 found it!

Nice caught. So even him don't believe in 8TF. Dunno why Digital Foundry get that number.

 

[joe_zazen]

Reading that thread about Xbox games coming to older Xbox devices is really kinda of mix bag. BC its a killing feature no doub, but that don't mean I want Nextbox/PS5 to have one year crossplataform with old devices. Some exclusives for takind advantage of the new machine are most better imo.

Nice caught. So even him don't believe in 8TF. Dunno why Digital Foundry get that number.

It was leadbetter doing napkin math pre-computex. If ps5 was $399 in 2020, gcn based with expensive ssd etc, and Sony wanted near break even pricing, 8tf wasn't a crazy number.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

If sony goes 399, 8-10tf GPU is not a terrible guess. I don't believe they will, however.

 

[Fake]

It was leadbetter doing napkin math pre-computex. If ps5 was $399 in 2020, gcn based with expensive ssd etc, and Sony wanted near break even pricing, 8tf wasn't a crazy number.

AMD told Navi will be RDNA, not GCN. Saying PS5 will get a GCN Navi is almost saying will be a Vega.

 

[joe_zazen]

AMD told Navi will be RDNA, not GCN. Saying PS5 will get a GCN Navi is almost saying will be a Vega.

It was before rdna reveal. Leadbetter didnt have a source or anything, he was just saying that 8tf gcn 399 with expensive storage was reasonable for cheap sony.

 

[Fake]

It was before rdna reveal. Leadbetter didnt have a source or anything, he was just saying that 8tf gcn 399 with expensive storage was reasonable for cheap sony.

In favor of some leakers they answer 'why' Sony wants to launch PS5 next year. Because Sony want more time for the PS5 components to reduce price over time. The problem is Digital Foundry ignore most of those leaks info.
Its really funny now the 'DF twitter' account now was follow that AMD gpu leak guy ( Here )from the twitter, the same who leaked the PS4 code number years ago. They even made a video months ago about a 'leaker' they pretty much ignore most of the time. Strange how things changes.

 

[demigod]

It was before rdna reveal. Leadbetter didnt have a source or anything, he was just saying that 8tf gcn 399 with expensive storage was reasonable for cheap sony.

No, it was becuz DF was bitter Cerny went to Wired instead of them. There were already leaks and you even had Stadia over 10 tflops, no way would ps5 be below that.

Also Mr. “we invented directx” penello lowballed the ps5 specs at 8TF.

 

[ethomaz]

No, it was becuz DF was bitter Cerny went to Wired instead of them. There were already leaks and you even had Stadia over 10 tflops, no way would ps5 be below that.

Also Mr. “we invented directx” penello lowballed the ps5 specs at 8TF.

You basically nailed the reason.
They were bitter about Wired exclusivity but hey they still have MS exclusivity I guess.

 

[bitbydeath]

Xbox Two won’t need to be very powerful if they’re only up-resing to 4K from Xbox One and Lockhart titles.

10TF would probably be more than enough.
I wonder if that’s why Xbox insiders are trying to peg PS5 as 8TF.

 

[joe_zazen]

Xbox Two won’t need to be very powerful if they’re only up-resing to 4K from Xbox One and Lockhart titles.

10TF would probably be more than enough.
I wonder if that’s why Xbox insiders are trying to peg PS5 as 8TF.

Isnt the Lockhart the real xbox ‘two’?

 

[bitbydeath]

Isnt the Lockhart the real xbox ‘two’?

I think Anaconda is and Lockhart is the low spec’d device.

 

[Ar¢tos]

The self ban was yesterday.

I read that he denied both 8 and 11 TFs and that what he heard is way over 8 TFs but yesterday he asked selfban (you can see here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ca...over-12m-users-ps4-on-2017.13665/post-2714964).

Somebody HAD to ask for a self ban on era?
Why didn't he just type a ; instead of a : ?
That would give him a month easily.
Or he could have said something like: "black people have darker skin than white people". That would give him at least 3 months for racial appropriation.



----
I just realised something.
If psvr2 is releasing sometime after the ps5 (let's say, 6 months - year), then that means that there will be no ps5 vr games during that time.
We will have a long wait to see the potential of the new console on VR games. ;(

 

[bitbydeath]

I just realised something.
If psvr2 is releasing sometime after the ps5 (let's say, 6 months - year), then that means that there will be no ps5 vr games during that time.
We will have a long wait to see the potential of the new console on VR games. ;(

The current device will likely work on it.
What will be interesting though is what they do with all that power and only outputting at 1080p.

I guess native 240fps would be quite easily doable on it.

 

[sinnergy]

He is a fake, why would you request an ban? And he seems to be keen on attention.

 

[CyberPanda]

He is a fake, why would you request an ban? And he seems to be keen on attention.

He thinks he did an honourable thing by asking for a self ban. LOL.

 

[TBiddy]

Xbox Two won’t need to be very powerful if they’re only up-resing to 4K from Xbox One and Lockhart titles.

10TF would probably be more than enough.
I wonder if that’s why Xbox insiders are trying to peg PS5 as 8TF.

And in the same breath, it could be argued that the PS5 would be exactly at the same point.

This thread is filled to the brink with wild speculation, even though we all know that the two consoles will more or less match each other, if we compare performance pr. dollar... unless one of them decides to screw up and throw in a silly attachment in the box.

 

[CrustyBritches]

He thinks he did an honourable thing by asking for a self ban. LOL.

When you get a leak wrong, account seppuku is the only path to restore honor. Lest your house become reviled as all mock them, "Lulz. There are the descendants of benji, who disseminated UnVeRiFied PS5 rumors."

 

[demigod]

When you get a leak wrong, account seppuku is the only path to restore honor. Lest your house become reviled as all mock them, "Lulz. There are the descendants of benji, who disseminated UnVeRiFied PS5 rumors."

What leak did he get wrong?

 

[xool]

Somebody HAD to ask for a self ban on era?

Can't you [they] just close your account and move on. Sounds like not enough breast milk, didn't like potty, eldest of 5 sisters etc etc etc.

 

[xool]

What leak did he get wrong?

Google found me this :

Sony PS5 DevKit's Navi GPU Rumored To Flex 12 Teraflops Alongside Zen 2 CPU

We're looking at roughly twice the GPU performance of the Xbox One X and three times that of the PlayStation 4.

hothardware.com

Actually quite interesting - 13.1 TF claimed devkit image, claims controller has LCD were touchpad was..


Would have been a good leak. I take back what I said about him/her.

Don't see the need for seppuku - looks like they got scammed or something . they could have just posted "duh. I stupide" and admitte whatever. I dunno

 

[TLZ]

Devkits are running on SLI 2080Tis until similar level Navis are ready for mass production next year.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Devkits are running on SLI 2080Tis until similar level Navis are ready for mass production next year.

From what I read, a 7nm chip takes 3-5 months to produce, depending on complexity. Devs kits better be close to final, because there is only time for 1-2 more revisions before the retail unit needs to start mass production.

 

[TLZ]

From what I read, a 7nm chip takes 3-5 months to produce, depending on complexity. Devs kits better be close to final, because there is only time for 1-2 more revisions before the retail unit needs to start mass production.

Yea 2 2080Ti cards in each devkit is final. They need both cards in each devkit to match the power of one customized Navi in PS5.

 

[Lort]

Devkits are running on SLI 2080Tis until similar level Navis are ready for mass production next year.

One 2080ti has 13 tf why would they need two?

There will be no navi that does 26 tf.

 

[Lort]

Yea 2 2080Ti cards in each devkit is final. They need both cards in each devkit to match the power of one customized Navi in PS5.

If this is true then the dev kits are setting expectations way too high lol.. expect watchdog 1 level downgrades near release.

 

[Fake]

If I remember right, those dev kits are in final stage.

 

[ethomaz]

These devkits are ugly lol

 

[David Ricardo]

If this is true then the dev kits are setting expectations way too high lol.. expect watchdog 1 level downgrades near release.

I think he is trying to make some kind of joke but I don't get it.

 

[Ellery]

That picture is completely fake. I think it isn't even a real picture but a render. I have seen it before

Always remember people. Basically everything regarding rumors and leaks is wrong/fake. It is always the same.
Every single time. Whether it is AdoredTV saying Navi costs 300$ and is as fast as a RTX 2080 or 5GHZ 12core CPUs for $329.
Same with the specifications, same with dev kits, same with almost everything. Same with the 14.2 TFLOPs PS5 leaks.

For some it might be the first time, but believe me it is always the same. With consoles and PC hardware.
Look how wrong everyone was about the Navi and Ryzen CPUs and even the names.
Same for the Nvidia RTX series until about 3 days before the reveal.

I am not saying that everything out there is fake, maybe the truth is actually out there, but I doubt it.
In the end the reveals are always disappointing. Always. And almost certainly you will "know" when you see the leak that "makes sense".
And this has mostly to do with people hyping it up and spreading fake leaks where consoles have more TFLOPs than the $1300 RTX 2080 Ti.

Always stay calm, drink coffee and think about leaks a bit before believing them because they fit what you hope for.
Positive confirmation bias is a dangerous thing

 

[shark sandwich]

Yea 2 2080Ti cards in each devkit is final. They need both cards in each devkit to match the power of one customized Navi in PS5.

I heard the CPU on the dev kit is underclocked as well, just to see what the devs can do with a slower CPU. The final version will be clocked higher.

 

[ResilientBanana]

That picture is completely fake. I think it isn't even a real picture but a render. I have seen it before

Always remember people. Basically everything regarding rumors and leaks is wrong/fake. It is always the same.
Every single time. Whether it is AdoredTV saying Navi costs 300$ and is as fast as a RTX 2080 or 5GHZ 12core CPUs for $329.
Same with the specifications, same with dev kits, same with almost everything. Same with the 14.2 TFLOPs PS5 leaks.

For some it might be the first time, but believe me it is always the same. With consoles and PC hardware.
Look how wrong everyone was about the Navi and Ryzen CPUs and even the names.
Same for the Nvidia RTX series until about 3 days before the reveal.

I am not saying that everything out there is fake, maybe the truth is actually out there, but I doubt it.
In the end the reveals are always disappointing. Always. And almost certainly you will "know" when you see the leak that "makes sense".
And this has mostly to do with people hyping it up and spreading fake leaks where consoles have more TFLOPs than the $1300 RTX 2080 Ti.

Always stay calm, drink coffee and think about leaks a bit before believing them because they fit what you hope for.
Positive confirmation bias is a dangerous thing

It's all been a smoke screen.

 

[Geki-D]

Google found me this :

Sony PS5 DevKit's Navi GPU Rumored To Flex 12 Teraflops Alongside Zen 2 CPU

We're looking at roughly twice the GPU performance of the Xbox One X and three times that of the PlayStation 4.

hothardware.com

Actually quite interesting - 13.1 TF claimed devkit image, claims controller has LCD were touchpad was..


Would have been a good leak. I take back what I said about him/her.

Don't see the need for seppuku - looks like they got scammed or something . they could have just posted "duh. I stupide" and admitte whatever. I dunno

That article isn't very clear but did Benji actually claim that those obviously fake devkit pics were real? That's a serious blow to his credibility if he did and from that point everything he claims should be called into question.

I am not saying that everything out there is fake, maybe the truth is actually out there, but I doubt it.
In the end the reveals are always disappointing. Always. And almost certainly you will "know" when you see the leak that "makes sense".

For hardware most leaks are fake and the ones that seemingly turn out to be true generally only have like 25% of what they leaked being on the money showing that it was most likely just a lucky/educated guess. Games are a different matter, plenty of game leaks turn out to be true but upcoming hardware is a tightly kept secret. Mostly because games get shown to journos in advance and hardware doesn't or at least they learn the official specs at the same time as everyone else.

 

[TLZ]

If this is true then the dev kits are setting expectations way too high lol.. expect watchdog 1 level downgrades near release.

I think he is trying to make some kind of joke but I don't get it.

I no joke. If you don't believe me, ask Dreamcastguy. Legit as. If you want more proof, Google Kugoson.

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

Yes, there will be an entry level console(Lockhart) at an affordable price, and then the Chad version(anaconda).

That got me good and I have to say that now I'm considering changing my own naming structure (until we get the actual names) from Snek & Anaconda to Incel & Chad.

 

[Ellery]

For hardware most leaks are fake and the ones that seemingly turn out to be true generally only have like 25% of what they leaked being on the money showing that it was most likely just a lucky/educated guess. Games are a different matter, plenty of game leaks turn out to be true but upcoming hardware is a tightly kept secret. Mostly because games get shown to journos in advance and hardware doesn't or at least they learn the official specs at the same time as everyone else.

Yup. One leak out of the hundreds we have had will be pretty close to the final specifications.
But that is the thing. Tell a thousand monkeys to randomly guess numbers and a couple of them will be close and then people call those monkeys prophets.

And even then. Nobody even got remotely close to what the next AMD GPU is going to be named. And I guess the same is true for the exact specifications of next gen consoles.
I bet that no leak on the internet is a 100% accurate right now. Maybe one or more aspects are right about it like VRAM size or CPU clockspeed, but nobody has all of it right. (Also because subject to change)

 

[xool]

Yea 2 2080Ti cards in each devkit is final. They need both cards in each devkit to match the power of one customized Navi in PS5.

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[TLZ]

You forgot something. Here's a few you can save and use later. Ask me if you need any more

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[xool]

Always remember people. Basically everything regarding rumors and leaks is wrong/fake. It is always the same.

I am not saying that everything out there is fake, maybe the truth is actually out there, but I doubt it.

Last gen the leaks were pretty spot on as close to reveal as I think we are now - they basically had everything, except the 4 to 8 GB upgrade on RAM.

There's been so much junk/noise this time it feels different. But I would still bet on that pastebin 12.8TF 24+4GB PS5 leak being very near. (being honest - just because I want it to)

That article isn't very clear but did Benji actually claim that those obviously fake devkit pics were real? That's a serious blow to his credibility if he did and from that point everything he claims should be called into question.

I think they just claimed a near 13TF GPU - actually I remember the tweet - someone capture it :



Sorry if I gave the impression they pushed the fake devkit - i don't think/don't know they did.

Wonder why they pulled the tweet.?? Nothing wrong with being wrong.. if your sources let you down then say so .. (???)

[edit - that 12.8TF dev kit figure keeps popping up for me - truth or prolific shitposter - you decide]

 

[molly14]

xbox x was released in 2017 and is 6TF yet sites like digital foundry and others are leading us to believe that ps5 will be only 8TF despite coming out 3 years later next year.
Do me a favour,not happening !

 

[Fake]

#team8tf