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Empty world, out dated and bad side quests and it looks like it has just been ported from 10 year old game. $30 would have been a more appropriate price, but i will wait for the deep deep sale.

Also, those are not my comments on the game but from reviewers who are giving it praise.

There's more to what a game's worth than its production values.

This is a port of 11 year old cult classic. A game that was roundly ignored at the time of release because, ironically enough, it was a SE published title that came out in the turbulent wake of FFXIII. A game that while still beautiful to look at, isn't in the same league creatively as Nier.

11 years on, reviewers haven't gotten any better or more erudite. If anything they've gotten worse!

 

[gow3isben]

Boys some questions:

Sub or dub (ie is dub good as I usually choose sub)?

Do I have to play the whole game 3 times?

Normal or hard (I like challenge but not annoying sponginess)?

 

[Danjin44]

Sub or dub (ie is dub good as I usually choose sub)?

I personally love english dub for this game especially english voice for Grimoire Weiss is perfection.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Those two comments seem to be at odds with one another.

A 60fps lock I can live with but uncapped framerate in a game that has logic tied to framerate sounds like a disaster.

Sucks I wont be able to enjoy replicant at 4K 120Hz.

 

[GHG]

Sucks I wont be able to enjoy replicant at 4K 120Hz.

4k 60fps will do for me.

But then I'm coming from a place where I played the original on PS3...

 

[mcjmetroid]

Question: the IGN review said Nier replicants combat is really repetitive.

Now I never found Automata's combat repetitive but there is also a lot of mastery to the controls and movement in that game. The mods were a great idea in that game.

Will this game but like this or is it more limited than Automata for combat?

Looks great in the trailers.

I just have a feeling the IGN review didn't go beyond the button mashing combat which yes you can get away with but not on a harder difficulty.

 

[Danjin44]

Question: the IGN review said Nier replicants combat is really repetitive.

Now I never found Automata's combat repetitive but there is also a lot of mastery to the controls and movement in that game. The mods were a great idea in that game.

Will this game but like this or is it more limited than Automata for combat?

Looks great in the trailers.

I just have a feeling the IGN review didn't go beyond the button mashing combat which yes you can get away with but not on a harder difficulty.

In Automata you have access to all weapon classes from get go but in Gestalt/Replicant you get full access after the time skip. So before the time skip the combat may feel much more limited compare to Automata.

 

[mcjmetroid]

In Automata you have access to all weapon classes from get go but in Gestalt/Replicant you get full access after the time skip. So before the time skip the combat may feel much more limited compare to Automata.

Right so eventually it gets good. Grand stuff

 

[sobaka770]

Started it on PS5, already feels like at home after Automata.

That being said playing in backwards compat on a brand new remaster game feels bad. I can accept that the remake was done with last-gen consoles in mind but not even a higher rez? The game looks blurry and graphics are nothing to write home about so maybe this could at least be upscaled to 4K on next-gen?
I don't know if I should wait for a patch or something cause this is literally a no-brainer.

 

[Fbh]

Boys some questions:

Sub or dub (ie is dub good as I usually choose sub)?

Do I have to play the whole game 3 times?

Normal or hard (I like challenge but not annoying sponginess)?

I like subs 99% of the time and generally try to play and watching things in their original language whenever possible.
But in this particular game I really enjoyed the dub. The dude playing Weiss in particular is great. (at least in the original, haven't played the remaster, but it's the same voice cast). The original also had some great banter from time to time and it's always annoying having to look down at subtitles while actually playing.

And yeah you have to beat it multiple times to get all the endings and the whole story.

 

[Komatsu]

As others have said, the original Nier dub was fantastic. I play 99% of my Japanese games in JP - including Automata, whose dub I liked but did not fall in love with - but like with FE:3H and Metal Gear, I vastly prefer to play Nier in English.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

I'm definitely planning on going with English dub. It seems they have some top quality VAs in this game.

Very excited to play this tomorrow! I decided to preorder on Steam instead of PS4. I'm betting on future mods to update all textures to 4K and some classy reshades to try to capture the original game's lighting.

 

[Danjin44]

'm definitely planning on going with English dub. It seems they have some top quality VAs in this game.

This game is one of very rare case of english dub actually being much superior to Japanese dub.

 

[shenmue mugen]

One minute to go!!!!!!!!

 

[IfuckinghateReddit]

It just doesn't feel right without Papa Nier.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

This game is one of very rare case of english dub actually being much superior to Japanese dub.

Good to hear. I'm really liking the sound of the VAs from the couple of trailers that have been released.

I usually opt for Japanese + English subs; Japanese VAs usually capture so much more raw emotion in dialogue whereas it just sounds corny when English VAs attempt the same lines. Code Geass and Attack on Titan are pretty big examples of this imo.

 

[Danjin44]

Good to hear. I'm really liking the sound of the VAs from the couple of trailers that have been released.

I usually opt for Japanese + English subs; Japanese VAs usually capture so much more raw emotion in dialogue whereas it just sounds corny when English VAs attempt the same lines. Code Geass and Attack on Titan are pretty big examples of this imo.

The are anime shows that have fantastic english dub like Mushishi, especially the narrator at beginning of the each episode captures the mood perfectly.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

One of the Best RPG of ps3.


Please dont listen to the idiots review gaming.

This game is awesome in ps3 version

 

[xellos2099alpha]

This is real, by the way copied from here

o Yoko Taro, he is about the only one who can say something like that and you don;t know if he is serious or not.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

o Yoko Taro, he is about the only one who can say something like that and you don;t know if he is serious or not.

Yoko Taro is always dead serious. It's the world which incorrectly thinks he's being facetious.

 

[Jigsaah]

Sorry if this was asked already. I didn't read every post. Is the game limited to 60 fps? I need to know because it will help me decide Xbox Series X or PC

 

[Mister Wolf]

Sorry if this was asked already. I didn't read every post. Is the game limited to 60 fps? I need to know because it will help me decide Xbox Series X or PC

The game's logic is tied to 60fps. If you go over that it speeds the game up.

 

[Winter's End]

Sorry if this was asked already. I didn't read every post. Is the game limited to 60 fps? I need to know because it will help me decide Xbox Series X or PC

Sounds like it from the reviews, gamelogic goes wacky if it goes above 30 fps.

 

[Danjin44]

Sounds like it from the reviews, gamelogic goes wacky if it goes above 30 fps.

i think you are wrong, I heard if goes above 60FPS.

 

[Yamisan]

i think you are wrong, I head if goes above 60FPS.

Your eyes couldn't tell anyways.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

Yoko Taro is always dead serious. It's the world which incorrectly thinks he's being facetious.

 

[KiNeMz]

So far the metcrit is looking good.

 

[Danjin44]

So far the metcrit is looking good.

At this point Metcrit doesn't really matter, if you enjoyed it when originally came out then this game is no brainier.

 

[Komatsu]

Combat is significantly snappier and more responsive on the remake. Nice to see light patterns actually affect objects - one of the most jarring things about PS3/XB360 Nier was the fact you could walk past bright slivers of light leaking from a window and your character model wouldn't be lit up.

Game looks much sharper and crisper, though I wish they had done more work on the textures.

 

[KiNeMz]

At this point Metcrit doesn't really matter, if you enjoyed it when originally came out then this game is no brainier.

I didn't play it.

What I'm interested in is the difference in reviews of the game now and then.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Hopefully it supports Ultrawide since I cant have 120hz.

 

[Danjin44]

I didn't play it.

What I'm interested in is the difference in reviews of the game now and then.

That's fair.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

I didn't play it.

What I'm interested in is the difference in reviews of the game now and then.

Well, the part of the reason why original review was bad was ude to the imfamous fishing quest near the beginning of the game

 

[Winter's End]

i think you are wrong, I heard if goes above 60FPS.

Lol yeah you are ofc right i was somehow still thinking about the PS3 version.

 

[Komatsu]

"IT LOOKS LIKE A PS3 GAME"

It doesn't. The original game was extremely washed-out and ugly - trust me, I own it and have played it many, many times. The game shone when it came to the soundtrack and story, but it was probably the ugliest title Square Enix put out in the 2010s. Looks much, much better now.

 

[Komatsu]

I want to highlight how much better the new models are. Some additional comparisons, with PS3 & PS4 versions side by side - taken from YouTube:

 

[Low Moral Fibre]

I dunno if he is still banned or whatever but ElAnalistaDeBits put a comparison up on YouTube if anyone wanted to see the difference and it is a pretty big upgrade from the PS3 version to be fair.

 

[nowhat]

That being said playing in backwards compat on a brand new remaster game feels bad. I can accept that the remake was done with last-gen consoles in mind but not even a higher rez?

I can live with the resolution on PS5 and so far performance has been pretty much perfect as far as I can tell - but holy fuck, even if I'd be on PS4 some of the textures are atrocious. Surely updating them wouldn't have been an insurmountable task? On the upside, the combat feels nicely "Platinum-ish".

Edit: and also when it comes to tech, what is it with Japanese devs and anti-aliasing (or lack thereof)? TAA would be great here, now there's a ton of shimmering that doesn't look nice at all.

 

[reksveks]

Anyone seen any performance numbers for the Series S?

 

[gow3isben]

"IT LOOKS LIKE A PS3 GAME"

It doesn't. The original game was extremely washed-out and ugly - trust me, I own it and have played it many, many times. The game shone when it came to the soundtrack and story, but it was probably the ugliest title Square Enix put out in the 2010s. Looks much, much better now.

Last of Us and god of War 3 look better than this imo

Graphically it can qualify as a launch-title cross-gen PS4 game at most

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Hey guys

NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139's "Daredevil" trophy/achievement involves an interphobic joke at the expense of an intersex character Spoiler

This is fucked up, plain & simple. I have no idea what made Saki Ito, Yoko Taro, & Co. think this was a good trophy/achievement to put in the game. And for context, the intersex character in question is . Regarding the origins of this problematic trophy/achievement, it has roots in a sexist...

www.resetera.com

Uh oh

Everytime I glance over at that guff site I end up feeling like Alan in this sketch, every single time..

 

[Clear]

Last of Us and god of War 3 look better than this imo

Graphically it can qualify as a launch-title cross-gen PS4 game at most

Comparing Nier to one of Sony's AAA tentpole releases isn't fair. The original was a multi-plat (it actually started as a 360 launch title only, but changed during its long and messy development) and never had much in the way of a budget. Most of what it got was wasted on the two versions of the game being produced for eastern and western markets.

I think the new version looks pretty good for what it is: a spruced up PS360 game targeting PS4/One level hardware.

 

[killatopak]

Last of Us and god of War 3 look better than this imo

Graphically it can qualify as a launch-title cross-gen PS4 game at most

Based on the interview posted here a while ago, it seems that this would have originally been just an up res port. Minimal overhaul was slowly crept in like models and other minor stuff like qol things.

It’s basically in the title. It isn’t a full on remake but it isn’t a simple remaster either. Basically it’s just an upgrade. It’s in between like a 1.5 version. They just square rooted 1.5 so it resulted in 1.22..... in the title.

 

[GymWolf]

Hey guys

NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139's "Daredevil" trophy/achievement involves an interphobic joke at the expense of an intersex character Spoiler

This is fucked up, plain & simple. I have no idea what made Saki Ito, Yoko Taro, & Co. think this was a good trophy/achievement to put in the game. And for context, the intersex character in question is . Regarding the origins of this problematic trophy/achievement, it has roots in a sexist...

www.resetera.com

Uh oh

I'm literally shaking right now.

 

[hrab]

I think the new version looks pretty good for what it is: a spruced up PS360 game targeting PS4/One level hardware.

The price they ask for it does not reflect the actual effort they put in the game itself. There are maybe worse contenders in the low-effort high-price remake/remaster category (like Burnout Paradise on Switch), but it's clear that they are milking Automata success, without investing too much.

 

[RobRSG]

Waiting to see which is the best version to get.

 

[killatopak]

The price they ask for it does not reflect the actual effort they put in the game itself. There are maybe worse contenders in the low-effort high-price remake/remaster category (like Burnout Paradise on Switch), but it's clear that they are milking Automata success, without investing too much.

It has all the DLCs of the original game included, an additional boss, an additional ending and expanded story bits. Other stuff such as rerecording and changing the OST as well rerecording all the voice overs and adding a new voice for Child/Teen Nier. Overhauling the battle system is there too.

Normally, I would agree with this but this isn’t just a simple upres port like the RE remasters which sold for like $40 each.

 

[ValiantTraveler]

The price they ask for it does not reflect the actual effort they put in the game itself. There are maybe worse contenders in the low-effort high-price remake/remaster category (like Burnout Paradise on Switch), but it's clear that they are milking Automata success, without investing too much.

 

[DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy]

I was excited for this until I saw it was $60. I know it’s had work/improvements done on it but I was expecting it to be $40. Definitely gonna pick it up later when it’s cheaper as I liked Automata a lot, but for now I’m gonna have to pass since RE8 is right around the corner.

 

[Clear]

The price they ask for it does not reflect the actual effort they put in the game itself. There are maybe worse contenders in the low-effort high-price remake/remaster category (like Burnout Paradise on Switch), but it's clear that they are milking Automata success, without investing too much.

If we got to pay based on "effort" in terms of man-hours of production, high-end AAA games would cost 10x more than an average game, because that's the sort of magnitude of difference on the dev side.

As mentioned above, while its not a full-blown mega-bucks remake like FF7r, its hardly low-effort in terms of what has been changed, added and improved. Its also a full port onto a completely different set of hardware architectures; there never was a PC build to derive from.