Working? So you can push the power button and it turns on?
Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
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Working? So you can push the power button and it turns on?
It is gonna backfire here. The market voted with their wallets when it came to both the OG 3DS (questionable build quality; price) and the OG Vita (memory card requirement), so the New 3DS XL in the US absolutely has the potential to fail (and I hope it does) for shipping an incomplete or anti-consumer product.
Sure, if I bought the charger and charged it. Again, what's your point?
I guess there wasn't enough of a backlash in other territories so NOA is pulling this bullcrap now. This isn't as simple as a "batteries not included" situation. This is like buying a TV... or a toaster... or any device, and having to buy a non-universal cord separately. It strikes me as a really greedy and shallow move.
I personally don't feel much incentive to upgrade my 3DS XL anyway so it doesn't really affect me, it's just the principle I need to speak out against. What's next? Home consoles without controllers?
I personally don't feel much incentive to upgrade my 3DS XL anyway so it doesn't really affect me, it's just the principle I need to speak out against. What's next? Home consoles without controllers?
I bolded my point for you
bigwinnerx
Member
This is kinda like how wired printers never include a USB cable.
So you're wrestling with having required items in 2 boxes instead of one? Okay, here's what you do...
Purchase New 3DS console for $200.
Purchase a charger for ~$10.
Find a spare box somewhere.
Open both 3DS and charger and place into acquired box.
Seal Box.
Make a price sticker that says $210, and stick it onto the box.
You now have a "working" 3DS system with charger included in a single box with an RRP of $210! Feel better?
TheSlySoul
Member
Amen and I totally agree.
The next Nintendo console could very well not include a controller in the base model for $300. It happened with PS TV. Sony said many people already had Dualshock 3 controllers.
I am curious how many people would change their tune?
Jesus Christ.
24 pages full of drama over a $5-charger.
$5 or $500
Buying a product that you can't even power out of the box is pathetic
TheSlySoul
Member
First blog post about the subject:
http://kotaku.com/nintendos-ac-adapter-policy-isnt-fair-1679656730
Good ole Kotaku.
Apparently some Japanese people are still surprised by it.
http://kotaku.com/nintendos-ac-adapter-policy-isnt-fair-1679656730
Good ole Kotaku.
Apparently some Japanese people are still surprised by it.
*woosh*
WrenchNinja
Member
There is nothing rational about anything you've said. And people are entitled to have the product they buy work out of the box.
You don't need to download things to make the Vita work.
You need the damn charger to make the N3DS work.
When will the defenders stop with the false equivalences?
shinobi602
Member
Right? It's so cheap to purchase, it's probably $1 to make, it should be included then.
Grinchy
Banned
Yeah since there's one bad thing out there, another bad thing is ok. Great logic.
Yup, you must buy a 32GB card, otherwise your system won't work. Everybody just gobbled that up and it hasn't been constantly criticised for the last two years.
To be honest, Nintendo should probably slap another £45 on the price of the system. They're far too generous.
onken
Member
Yeah my JP Vita came with a power adapter. I guess I'm just spoiled and Nintendo isn't a fucking tightwad at all.
TheSlySoul
Member
The only reason I think they do not do that is because you have to know if it turns on at all. I think it is required by law on all tech over a certain dollar value. That is why many of them include batteries if they run on AA or AAA.They should sell the battery separately.
Wow, I can't believe how some people rush to defend Nintendo over this stupid policy. I'm from EU and I never knew the 3DSXL never came with a charger and I find it stunning nobody talked about that before, because this is outrageous. The last Nintendo hardware I bought is a Zelda special edition 3DS which naturally came with a charger ...
exmachina64
Banned
lol GAF exploded when the European 3DSXL didn't come with a charger, iirc.
There's a defense force for everything. "Hey, it's only a few bucks for a charger." That's not the point.
This was going to be my first 3DS purchase so I'll need to buy an adaptor. Am I reading correctly I can't just use a micro USB cable like with my Vita?
The 3DS is far less attractive to me if I need to bring a separate charger just for it and can't use the same one my phone, camera, Vita, and Kindle all share.
The price isn't even a concern it is just the annoyance of having yet another cable to keep track of when traveling.
Were the old 3DS like this as well? Is there really no model i can buy that is micro USB? Why would they do something so stupid?
The 3DS is far less attractive to me if I need to bring a separate charger just for it and can't use the same one my phone, camera, Vita, and Kindle all share.
The price isn't even a concern it is just the annoyance of having yet another cable to keep track of when traveling.
Were the old 3DS like this as well? Is there really no model i can buy that is micro USB? Why would they do something so stupid?
King Gilga
Member
I've never seen a phone that didn't come with a charger in the UK.
And even if it did if it used mini or micro USB it'd be fine since everyone has a billion of those since everyone uses it.
But you just don't use proprietary Nintendo only charging bullshit and then not bundle an adapter.
That's just being a fucking scumbag piece of shit.
TheSlySoul
Member
You are correct.
This is the first time in a long, long time that Nintendo has done this. They started rolling it around in 2012 in Japan and 2013 in Europe. I knew sooner or later it was bound to happen to NoA, but I must admit they had some balls to charge $200 for a console without a charger.
Practically every electronic device in the world will require an AC adapter of some sort. To not include it with a $200 product because they think a lot of their adopters will be previous 3DS/DSi owners is ignorant and a slap to the face to those who want to purchase this product. You are giving customers a product that will not work out of the box. Really?
What if I was a previous owner but gave my older model to a friend or family member. They would now own that previous adapter and now I have to buy myself an AC adapter along with the $200 console?
Please.
What if I was a previous owner but gave my older model to a friend or family member. They would now own that previous adapter and now I have to buy myself an AC adapter along with the $200 console?
Please.
tearsintherain
Member
UK version of majora's mask limited edition 3DS has an ac adapter included, it looks like they just photoshopped it into the picture hahaha
http://store.nintendo.co.uk/new-nin...-3ds-xl-majoras-mask-3d-edition/11070029.html
http://store.nintendo.co.uk/new-nin...-3ds-xl-majoras-mask-3d-edition/11070029.html
USB draw is 5V 500mA, Nintendo adapter is 4.6V 900mA. In an Iwata Asks they had originally planned to change the adapter for 3DS due to higher power consumption but were able to get by so potentially it can max that. More modern USB can supply additional power but is much less common.
UK resident here. My Samsung Galaxy didn't.
It even has a note inside the box that explains why one isn't included.
njean777
Member
Did it at least come with a usb cable that you can charge it with? If it did then that isn't a good example.
Extra Sauce
Member
NOA trying to convince us that the New 3DS XL MSRP would have been $210 if an AC Adapter was included. Sure...
Grinchy
Banned
Every phone i've bought in the past comes with the charger. All other techs come with a charger. Even my old 3DS was with a charger.
njean777
Member
It at least came with a charging cable, the new 3ds does not come with one at all. That is a major difference.
So Nintendo just assumes everyone who buys a new 3DS are people that already own a previous model?
King Gilga
Member
A usb cable is a charger, I would have 0 problem if nintendo did that, or hell even if they didn't but the device was mini usb compatible, because who doesn't have one of those?
But proprietary port AND not coming with the charger? Come the fuck on.
And who in the 1st world doesn't have a USB port to charge from?
84% of the population in the U.S. has a computer with that number reaching almost 90 percent in some cities. Not only does almost everyone who buys a smartphone have a computer or laptop, almost everyone in the U.S. does.
I don't think Nintendo is planing on 84% of N3DS owners being people upgrading (who aren't planning on trading in the old system). Maybe they are though who knows.
Yep
This reminds me of people complaining that Nintendo doesn't include a 100 GB harddrive with Wii U.
Yeah, I would like to be forced to buy a 80 GB harddrive and then after a few weeks buy a 500 GB harddrive on top of that *cough* PS3* because that's way better than simply buying a 500 GB harddrive directly and not spending money on stuff that I do not want. But I guess Sony put that 80 GB harddrive in there and paid for it themselves, sure.
3DS would be $5 more expensive, if they included it for everyone. And for people, who already own one, that's simply a waste of money.
I don't like the fact that it's not included in the box, but part of me is still flabbergasted at the indignant outrage, since it's not like it's hidden on the box and it's not like adapters are not being sold at retail.
It's a penny-pinching move under the guise of passing savings along to end users, and they sell the component at a crazy markup. It's as stupid as not including an HDMI cable or memory card in consoles that required (or 'required') them, but that shit's happening and people are still gobbling up those products (in small quantities, as will be the case with the n3DS).
I can respect the extra box requirement being a dealbreaker for some people on principle, but it wouldn't prevent me from buying the console if I really wanted it (CAD price + sales tax is the deterrent for me right now anyway). I view it like any other 'essential' accessory purchase from any other vendor, though I'd still rather it's in the box given the price of the product and the price of the accessory -- but if I already own the component, I'd rather not pay for it 'again', and the overt statement here is we would have paid a premium for it. They clearly wanted to hit that $200 price point and shaved to do it.
It's a penny-pinching move under the guise of passing savings along to end users, and they sell the component at a crazy markup. It's as stupid as not including an HDMI cable or memory card in consoles that required (or 'required') them, but that shit's happening and people are still gobbling up those products (in small quantities, as will be the case with the n3DS).
I can respect the extra box requirement being a dealbreaker for some people on principle, but it wouldn't prevent me from buying the console if I really wanted it (CAD price + sales tax is the deterrent for me right now anyway). I view it like any other 'essential' accessory purchase from any other vendor, though I'd still rather it's in the box given the price of the product and the price of the accessory -- but if I already own the component, I'd rather not pay for it 'again', and the overt statement here is we would have paid a premium for it. They clearly wanted to hit that $200 price point and shaved to do it.
Printers never came with cables even back in the old days when they used centronix/parallel interface.
Cbajd5
Member
They assume that or that they'd have the simple intelligence to buy one with the system.
Or the either simpler or less simple (not sure really) intelligence to throw out the battery once it dies and replace it with another.
Or the simplest intelligence to throw out the system once the battery dies and buy another.
Jesus, there really is a defense force for everything. The point is that when buying a $200 240p console in 2015, the least they can do is put their proprietary charger in the box.
Buddha Beam
Banned
If you could just use like a standard micro-USB cable or something, this wouldn't be a bad decision. But since the thing is proprietary, it's a pretty stupid decision, if you ask me.
Hopefully for their next generation handhelds, they'll go with standardized ports.
Hopefully for their next generation handhelds, they'll go with standardized ports.
Well, except that, you know, the Vita 2000 already comes with 1 GB of internal storage, the Vita works without the memory card and that if you want a memory card you can buy a measly 4GB one that cost nothing close to £50?
yep this is the main issue. Not many people would bat an eye at this if it wasn't a proprietary charger.
Cbajd5
Member
I would guess they didn't want to change the charging port mid generation like they did with the DS/DS Lite/DSi. Even if it was standard micro USB, you'd still have the same issue as "new 3DS" vs "3DS" except with charger at the end.
Although I also guessed they wouldn't remove the charger for the NA release of the new 3DS, so I could be wrong.
Edit:
I just thought of a good question: Will Gamestop sell used new 3DSs with a charger? And will they require a charger for it to be traded in?