Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
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This is unacceptable. I can't think of a single electronic device in America that needs a charger for use yet doesn't come with one.
How much do you think a charger costs to make? A couple bucks or less? How much of that really would have been added to the cost of N3DS? Unless they would have marked it up 800%, which is just as bad.
How much do you think a charger costs to make? A couple bucks or less? How much of that really would have been added to the cost of N3DS? Unless they would have marked it up 800%, which is just as bad.
Jme
Member
I'm clearly in the minority here, but I think this is a good move. They are reducing electronic waste. They are reducing wasted resources. They are reducing manufacturing costs. They are reducing clutter. I have 4 of these adapters already, I don't need another one. If I did, I would just buy one along with it.
I wouldn't be surprised if 80% or more of the people buying a n3dsxl already had this adapter. They dont need another one. This is a good move and everyone is overreacting.
I wouldn't be surprised if 80% or more of the people buying a n3dsxl already had this adapter. They dont need another one. This is a good move and everyone is overreacting.
Red Liquorice
Member
I was flabberghastered when I got my 3DS XL and it didn't have a charger. This shouldn't be allowed and I'm surprised it still is here in the UK where we have a decent record of bringing companies to task with consumer shows like Watchdog etc. Unbelievable really, especially from Nintendo, it's just really skeezy.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I'm going to blow your mind here: you are a minority and the majority of people don't have 4 3DS chargers, indeed most would only have one which you then have to trade in with your old system so you're back to square one.
Also, if Nintendo really wanted to tackle "electronic waste" as some top priority, they wouldnt make 6 versions of the same console and also region lock every single one.
outunderthestars
Banned
But then they couldn't inflate their numbers by selling the same antiquated hardware to the same dedicated fan based 3-5 times in a generation.
AdventureMike
Member
Not sure how people can be defending Nintendo selling a literal brick to people that have never owned a previous DS/3DS. This is out of hand and I hope it blows up in their faces.
Petrae
Member
"I have 27 3DS chargers in my house already and I don't need any more waste. Besides, you can buy a cheap adapter for, like, $5 on Amazon. Cheap people need to quit bitching and pay up. Video games are expensive, man."
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
What is wrong with this company? What clueless tits.
I'm still mad at them for trying to change Princess Toadstool's name to Peach. So I may be biased.
I'm still mad at them for trying to change Princess Toadstool's name to Peach. So I may be biased.
Sinfamy
Member
But it wouldn't have costed more. They would just eat $2 less in profit.
It probably costs Nintendo less then $60 to manufacture the entire system.
And to those who keep saying its not a big deal because its cheap, I've said it before, but here it is in GIF form, which is what GAF seems to understand.
TheSlySoul
Member
Pretty much. I am not a fool though, $200 for what you get is kind of meh.
My imported version was about $200 and I got a cool faceplate and charge dock included. I can forgive the lack of a charger because that is a decent value.
That NoA price gouging...
Edit: $200 USD for this: http://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japa...xl-super-smash-bros-edition-brand-new-en.html
Comes with free game. Game bundle over at NA cost $30 extra.
Ha ha, I think my main issue would be they should have charged $190. Japan has $200 USD LL's that include games. Any word on what Europe is charging?
AdventureMike
Member
So...indefensible. Got it!
Duxxy3
Member
Console gaming is expensive. Handheld gaming is meant to be cheap as fuck, especially now that every kid has a tablet or smartphone, and those games rarely go above 99 cents.
I bought a DS for my first niece when she was little. I never even considered a 3DS for my newer niece or nephew because of the price of the system and games, and definitely not when they have access to cheap (or free) games.
Nintendo priced themselves out of the market that they created. Next handheld needs to start at $99, with $29 retail games (alongside 99 cent downloadable games).
TheSlySoul
Member
I actually starting to think about the Ace Attorney and Ghost Trick ports and realize it could totally work for Nintendo.
Like with Captain Toad, Book 1 is free and you pay up to $40 for everything else.
Smash could be F2P with 5 characters and 2 stages, but $60 to unlock everything.
Instead of keeping high quality and making free World 1/Chapter 1, they go and make Pokémon Shuffle. I think Nintendo has no clue why Hay Day is so successful.
trogdorddragon
Banned
This is nomsenmse. The PS TV is sold at $99 with:
-PS TV
-ac adapter
-HDMI cable
-game
-memory card
-controller
-USB cable
Absolutely everything you need.
They also have a less expensive SKU for people who already have a lot of PlayStation stuff. One SKU for new customers and one for existing customers. That SKU makes sense for existing customers since their ps3 and ps4 already come with USB cables and its very common to have multiple controllers for a single console (unlike ac adapters).
For the rare case where someone buys a PS TV but doesn't own a ps4 and insists on using a ds4 rather than the bundled Ds3 and USB cable, there's still not a big problem. It's not a proprietary cable. It's USB.
That scenario is an extreme outlier though unlike, you know, buying a device with a rechargeable battery without the requisite and proprietary power adapter.
shinobi602
Member
But current 3DSes sold with the charger are still $199...
outunderthestars
Banned
Oh come on, the 3DS XL is already being sold at a sizable profit. They could have easily sold it with the charger for $199.
Sony manages to sell a much more powerful piece of hardware, with a charger, game, and memory card for $199.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, it has been pointed out plenty of times that the current MSRP of 3DS XL is way too high. It fell down to $150 plenty. Also, you can bet your bottom dollar it will go down to $150 again in February.
I think the average customer is going to buy the $150 version. Pretty much new 3DS is purely marketed to people upgrading, but they forgot you have to give up your charge cable to upgrade.
Jme
Member
I do not think most people have that many chargers. I have kids, each with their own systems and chargers, plus mine, plus a spare from some old system (dsi maybe?)
But yes, MOST people buying a n3dsxl do have at least 1.
And as far as trading it in with their old system... it's not Nintendo's problem. It's also only a requirement to include the charger when dealing with a big chain like GameStop. So maybe just use craigslist or ebay or any other number of avenues with which you can sell an unwanted electronic.
And I'm not saying electronic waste is priority for Nintendo. In fact, I doubt they even considered it (well, I'm sure some numbers guy somewhere factored it into some spreadsheet somewhere). But the fact is, whatever their motivations may be, it does reduce waste.
Space Medafighter X
Member
My vita tv didn't come with a memory card, game or a controller and it cost $99.
Edit: It actually cost me $71 or something like that because it was on sale. I'm in north America as well.
In the UK it comes with almost nothing lol. Not even a control pad or Memory.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, I think this is what bothers me the most.
Say you like the DS, so you bought DS lite.
Then the new 3DS comes out. Oh no, the old charger doesn't work. That is ok, they gave you one. So you trade in and are happy.
Then you see a new 3DS with the name new 3DS and you want to trade in the old one for 75 dollars. Now you got a console with no charger.
Nintendo is saying to this person that they should have had an extra one all along.
Good stuff...
Diddy Kong
Banned
I definitely don't appreciate it not coming with a charger. Also annoying to have to explain it to friends :/
trogdorddragon
Banned
OK. I do believe this thread is about NA market though.
AdventureMike
Member
Yeah that's some major nonsense.
Retro Biscuits
Member
as someone who bought a UK 3ds with no charger, i'm not going to defend this, it was bollocks then and it's still bollocks. it's an integral part of the package especially since its a proprietary cable.
Mad Season
Banned
for those saying "big whoop its an extra $10"... you dont get it.. NOA is making this an "inconvenience" for the consumer. This is bad.
On top of all of that, this makes me even more nervous about the future of Nintendo and their next console due to their continued lack of common sense
On top of all of that, this makes me even more nervous about the future of Nintendo and their next console due to their continued lack of common sense
shanafan
Member
Wii U turning a profit since October. I won't blame the Wii U for not including an AC adapter.
Fattony12000
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Space Medafighter X
Member
I can understand people upset not getting a charger (It doesn't really matter to me) but they should've definitely put a charger in there. Maybe they should have gotten rid of the memory card?
TheSlySoul
Member
I think I am mostly disgusted by charging $200 and not including a charger. I really want to see the profit margin.
But it wouldn't have costed more. They would just eat $2 less in profit.
It probably costs Nintendo less then $60 to manufacture the entire system.
And to those who keep saying its not a big deal because its cheap, I've said it before, but here it is in GIF form, which is what GAF seems to understand.
Maybe they just have a huge amount of unsold chargers somewhere in a warehouse in Canada and now the lease with the mounties has run out and they need to get rid of it, Idk yo.
stan423321
Member
Both the base SKU of PS TV and base SKU of N3DSXL can be bought by somebody stupid as a gift or something and are unusable without further purchases. The second SKU for PS TV is an effective equivalent of a retailer bundle, it doesn't magically prevent people from buying the first one. It's the same thing.
TheOnePercent
Member
Citation needed.
Nintendo as a whole made a profit in Q2. It's safe to assume the 3DS had more to do with that than the Wii U.
It only became profitable recently, a full year after it launched and in the face of overwhelming opposition.
Trust me dude, the only reason Nintendo did this was to tighten the belt and it was their own damn fault to begin with.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Oh, so this is what Nintendo meant by choices in their last PR statement about no regular N3DS. We now have the choice to buy the AC adapter.
Pancakes R Us
Member
It shouldn't have been more with the charger though. In fact, it should be cheaper without the charger. European price has remained the same, and we've been charger-less for a while now, price remained the same.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
"What's in the Box?"
"Can you tell what is missing among these items?"
"Can you tell what is missing among these items?"
CosmicQueso
Member
Well, sample size of 1 and meaningless in the overall picture, but I canceled my New 3DS order this morning. First time I haven't picked up a new hardware release on day 1 since the launch of the GameCube.
Those wrongs doesn't make this wrong okay.
GameStop requires a charger when someone trades in their system, yes. If you don't have one, you have to buy one from GameStop (or leave, find a charger somewhere else and then return to GameStop) in order to complete the trade in.
Those wrongs doesn't make this wrong okay.
GameStop requires a charger when someone trades in their system, yes. If you don't have one, you have to buy one from GameStop (or leave, find a charger somewhere else and then return to GameStop) in order to complete the trade in.
I think a better question is Will Gamestop have a spare charger for people to use when they do instore transfers?
Jazzy Network
Member
That's one thing Gamestop does right. They should absolutely require anyone to trade in a system with all the working parts. It makes sense.
Teletraan1
Banned
I remember when the Wii U specs were released and it was found to not have an optical out port. This put people who didn't have HDMI receivers @ 2.0 stereo sound out of the device. When I complained on this forum I was met with a bunch of responses that blew me away. One guy as a Nintendo stockholder was glad it had less options because it was cheaper to make for nintendo for something nobody would need. I was told that the PS4 and the XB1 were not going to have an optical out. It was "old" technology. I was a poor that should update my audio hardware etc. Reading the first few pages of this thread gave me flashbacks to that. It is ok to like a company because they provided you entertainment over the years. It is not ok to defend them at all costs for every stupid decision they make.
A proprietary charger should be included. If they aren't going to provide one they better make sure you can charge it via the micro USB. I dislike portables for the most part but the 3DS has a decent library of games I would enjoy. Knowing nintendo I didn't want to jump on the first 20 revisions of their handheld and wanted to wait until they were releasing a near final version with a full catalog of games. I am not an upgrader. This statement they released is insulting and their decision is anti-consumer.
A proprietary charger should be included. If they aren't going to provide one they better make sure you can charge it via the micro USB. I dislike portables for the most part but the 3DS has a decent library of games I would enjoy. Knowing nintendo I didn't want to jump on the first 20 revisions of their handheld and wanted to wait until they were releasing a near final version with a full catalog of games. I am not an upgrader. This statement they released is insulting and their decision is anti-consumer.
Wow, it's like if it was written by the onion. I swear, the people that defend Nintendo as if they could do no wrong is getting absurd. As its been pointed out, the fact of the matter is that Nintendo would not need to increase the price of the new 3ds to include the charger, they would just take a smaller profit. The fact they don't even want to do that speaks volumes about how they want to treat customers.