Oh that's cool that you don't need a 4th charger. Maybe you can sell 2-3 of them to others who may now want one. But I'd rather have the ability to charge and play something out of the box, rather than have to pay to get a charger separately. This is ridiculous and a horrendous decision from a business standpoint and you folks are eating it up so a billion dollar corporation doesn't want to spend what is pennies for them. It doesn't cost them $20 to add adapters to handheld consoles.
Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
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Oh that's cool that you don't need a 4th charger. Maybe you can sell 2-3 of them to others who may now want one. But I'd rather have the ability to charge and play something out of the box, rather than have to pay to get a charger separately. This is ridiculous and a horrendous decision from a business standpoint and you folks are eating it up so a billion dollar corporation doesn't want to spend what is pennies for them. It doesn't cost them $20 to add adapters to handheld consoles.
Vibrators don't come with batteries but you can still come without them.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
Nintendo including the charger would likely not have driven up the retail price. They most likely did it to increase profits on each unit sold and to make profits off of people who need the charger. It's a shitty, indefensible practice. I mean, yeah, the charger isn't that expensive, but the principle behind the decision sucks.
TheSlySoul
Member
How is going from $150 with a charging cable to $200 reasonable?
I just don't...
Edit: Also all new Vitas come with a 4GB memory card now. New 3DS probably doesn't have a microSD card.
Schreckstoff
Banned
Every bundle had a memory card included though, still BS prices though to this very day.
Was the Vita actually sold like this? Serious question, since I didn't get on board until the WD Amazon bundle last Christmas (which came with a near-useless 4GB one).
Bony Manifesto
Member
Yeah, nobody at all complains about the Vita's absurd memory card pricing. You're the first!
Firestorm ZERO
Member
PS Vita 2000 comes with 1GB memory. If you buy retail carts for some games the saves, updates and DLC are saved on the carts.
Also they removed the propriety port and switched it with USB. So you can charge it via USB.
MrFortyFive
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Bullshit. Unless they had planned on charging $204.99 for the new 3DS with an adapter included, I don't buy it for a second. They're simply cutting costs to pad the bottom line.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they got their reasons. I just imagine a parent buying one for their kid for Christmas and it comes without an AC adapter. How's Santa fuckin up an AC adapter
Not only that but the whole new 3ds is going to be horrible for kids and parents. Imagine a mom buys lil Timmy a new game for his 3DS for his birthday except oops ite 's a new 3DS only game. The whole thing reeks of a a halfbaked idea to charge more for a redesign.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I agree.
Though honestly, we both know the answer to that: to increase profit margins through accessory purchase & see if the market responds accordingly as they have in Europe and Japan.
We'll see how it goes, could go either way - NoA is a much more difficult market.
Corronchilejano
Member
I was. And I do not regret saying it either.
If this were $20-30 fine, but it's $10, maybe even less. I bought one for my Gf for the equivalent of $2.
It's just a really weird decition... and here's the backlash.
I wonder if the huge markup for stores was incentive?
Pretty sure plenty of people were very vocal about this and to some extent I believe this hurt the Vita's sales. The new console comes with 1GB now I believe to "mitigate" this issue.
What I'm saying is, Sony was punished by its stupidity, why should we give a free pass to Nintendo?
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, it is a mute point now considering every Vita you can buy in a store comes with a memory card. In fact, my Vita came with a charger, 3G capability, 4GB of memory, and a game for $200.
How is the new 3DS price reasonable?
I think we call can agree that no longer including the adapter is bullshit and sucks, but holy fuck the overreactions are insane.
Anti-consumer? Would you prefer if they charged you $220 and included it? Hell you can get one for $4 if you look around. Yet we're ok with Vita charging a virtual ton with memory sticks. We're ok with having HDMI cables missing from TV and monitor boxes. We're ok with day 1 DLC and patches.
But a $4-12 power adapter? Get the pitchforks and torches.
n3DS isn't a dead system?
Anti-consumer? Would you prefer if they charged you $220 and included it? Hell you can get one for $4 if you look around. Yet we're ok with Vita charging a virtual ton with memory sticks. We're ok with having HDMI cables missing from TV and monitor boxes. We're ok with day 1 DLC and patches.
But a $4-12 power adapter? Get the pitchforks and torches.
n3DS isn't a dead system?
:Motorbass
Member
But you can't charge and play because games are not included :O you have to buy them seperately.
I get that it's a surprising decision for some of you but I don't get the overreaction. It says that the charger isn't included on the box and if it's like here in germany there are signs next to the consoles that point to it.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I disagree here. Say you're in Euorpe and ordered the MM 3D steelbook edition. You want the N3DSXL to go with it. Well since it is forced to come with the game you've just purchased the game twice effectively. Also you can't sell the game on as it is a digital version and selling the steelbook version defeats the purpose of buying it in the first place.
Meanwhile in America they complain about not being charged £40 extra for a game they don't want or need.
It was an example of something similarly essential that also requires a separate purchase and the cost of which is proportionately similar. i.e. The cigarettes are pretty useless if you can't light them yet there isn't public outcry here about them not coming with matches.
Yup, they will not see my ~$200. I'll spend it on complete products and on companies who have better business practices.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
They can buy the adapter. they are normally placed next to the 3DS boxes...
4 with shipping. get over it.
I raise you with an adapter for 0.42 Dollar.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087VXSS0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
In all seriousness, I get why people are upset, even though I can deal with a 5 bucks at worst, once in a lifetime purchase.
EatinOlives
Member
For the record, I do appreciate you linking that cable, which is much more versatile as you said by being USB instead of directly plugging to a wall.
I should've been more specific. I meant to say manufacturers of mobile hardware, and I do agree there's some corners of the world where manufacturers don't pack in a cable but at least they still use standard USB ports for charging their hardware.
I mean if we wanted to talk about all the corner-cutting in pack-ins we'd be here all day
. "Batteries not included", for one.Proprietary, that's why the decision is more baffling.
CosmicQueso
Member
I hear you. But this is the bet they make? I am all about corporate bottom lines. I'm a scum sucking corporate douchebag myself. And even I can't get my head around how this makes sense, that this is the way they try to squeeze out a couple extra bucks. It just makes no business sense (which I'm realizing offends me more than the consumer angle).
No doubt. What the hell is so expensive about a fucking adaptor?
TheSlySoul
Member
Saved a whole $2 and make $8 for every adapter we sell in exchange for people hating us.
Microsoft Xbox 360 strategy at play.
PixyJunket
Member
Yup.
:Motorbass
Member
150? When I look on amazon, all old 3ds XL are sold for around 200 and that's without charger in EU.
WrenchNinja
Member
Saving cost for thr consumer like the ethernet port for the Wii U? Bullshit as usual from Nintendo.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
this is neogaf = overreaction
Zen_Arcade
Banned
People who keep saying this are completely missing the point. It's not about money.
If it's so cheep, why didn't they just add it in the damn box?
People, it's not about the money. It's about the message this shit sends. If Nintendo gets away with this, they will keep removing and removing.
Watch Nintendo not even include the controller for there next home console. XD
PS+ pays for itself so many times over with how many games you get from the service. Not to mention the discounts on purchasing games if you want to do that. Plus its completely optional, not the same as a power cord lol.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/13/7...ave-away-more-than-1300-in-free-games-in-2014
I don't recall people claiming anti-consumerism and demanding Vita to fail either. There's a difference between complaining and insane overreactions on the verge of schadenfreude.
It does, a 4gb microsd card.
It doesn't pay for itself at all if you had no intention of buying the games given to you, or were going to wait until they were dirt cheap. I would never have purchased Infamous Last Light if Sony didn't throw it at me. Nor do I care about The Swapper, though I might have picked it up cheap someday.
Meanwhile, I do want to play online for Bloodborne.
Sony isn't "giving" you money with PS+. They're taking it from you. They're making it slightly less painful by salving the wound with old games that have already long passed their sales prime, or a few indie titles that probably never would have hit it big otherwise.
MMaRsu
Member
So what if Apple releases a new Ipad without a charger, and they use the same excuse that old Ipads use the same charger and they dont want to overprice the consumer
Im sorry but that sounds truly stupid as hell
Im just using Apple as an example here. Not sure how anyone could defend this nonsense.
Im sorry but that sounds truly stupid as hell
Im just using Apple as an example here. Not sure how anyone could defend this nonsense.
I'm pretty sure people complained a lot about those points you just mentioned. This isn't exclusive to Nintendo somehow.
What are you talking about? Sony has gotten a ton of shit for their bloated Vita memory card prices. People still (rightly) complain about it whenever the topic comes up.
Implying Sony got a pass on Vita memory cards is absurd revisionist history.
Team Top Hat
Banned
These type of threads aggravate me to high hell. People will defend anything.
TheSlySoul
Member
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=nintendo+3ds+150+dollars
Many times it went on sale for $150.
I will honestly bet that new 3DS will be $150 this winter and bundled with a charger.
:Motorbass
Member
About what then? If I had the choice, I would choose the SKU WITHOUT charger. Others would choose differently. Can't win them all.
I'd totally buy the cradle though because they are extremely nice
GatticusFinch
Member
The best part? Using a non-official adapter VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY!
Good shit, Nintendo. Good shit.
Good shit, Nintendo. Good shit.