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NPD Sales Results for December 2008
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leroy hacker
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Some things I found notable:
In the overall rankings, 9 of the top 20 games are published by Nintendo. Two extra 3rd party Wii games showed up. I wondered about Call of Duty's prospects after Wii focused commercials were aired, but expected very little. I'm also happy to see Shaun White up there since it is a quality product that makes great use of the balance board. I hope this means more balance board based games.
I'm shocked to see Link's Crossbow Training with any rank at all, but it must be a mass market success even though it and the zapper are so unliked here.
Third party domination on a Nintendo platform!
In the overall rankings, 9 of the top 20 games are published by Nintendo. Two extra 3rd party Wii games showed up. I wondered about Call of Duty's prospects after Wii focused commercials were aired, but expected very little. I'm also happy to see Shaun White up there since it is a quality product that makes great use of the balance board. I hope this means more balance board based games.
I'm shocked to see Link's Crossbow Training with any rank at all, but it must be a mass market success even though it and the zapper are so unliked here.
4/10 are third party. EA was right that Nerf would be their big Wii game.
Third party domination on a Nintendo platform!
Cosmonaut X
Member
AstroLad said:
Ah well, but ... you know ... anyone can PASTE from the spreadsheet.Kobun Heat said:
I actually wrote stuffs to make it look good.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21906
:lol
WretchedTruman
Member
uh huh.
Stoney Mason
Banned
New Fuel!
At first Glance my initial thoughts are Resistance 2 really fell off. And boy Tomb Raider really tanked like we thought.
At first Glance my initial thoughts are Resistance 2 really fell off. And boy Tomb Raider really tanked like we thought.
WretchedTruman
Member
Pachter fails yet again.Jtyettis said:
At this point, Analysts don't know what the fuck's going on. They're just turning the wheel and seeing what it lands on.
SimpleDesign
Member
Don't worry, MK vs DC sold well apparently, 2nd best selling PS3 game for December.Evlar said:
Kobun Heat
Member
Well, sure.jvm said:Ah well, but ... you know ... anyone can PASTE from the spreadsheet.
I actually wrote stuffs to make it look good.
Top 10 Accessories
1. WII NUNCHUK CONTROLLER NINTENDO OF AMERICA
2. WII REMOTE CONTROLLER W/ JACKET NINTENDO OF AMERICA
3. WII REMOTE CONTROLLER NINTENDO OF AMERICA
4. PS3 DUALSHOCK 3 WIRELESS CONTROLLER SONY
5. WII CHARGE STATION NYKO
6. WII WHEEL GRIP NINTENDO OF AMERICA
7. WII PERFECT SHOT GUN GRIP NYKO
8. 360 LIVE 12 MONTH GOLD CARD MICROSOFT
9. 360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER MICROSOFT
10. 360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER BLACK MICROSOFT
Interesting.. people are not only buying Wii Play.. but also the Wiimote seperately
1. WII NUNCHUK CONTROLLER NINTENDO OF AMERICA
2. WII REMOTE CONTROLLER W/ JACKET NINTENDO OF AMERICA
3. WII REMOTE CONTROLLER NINTENDO OF AMERICA
4. PS3 DUALSHOCK 3 WIRELESS CONTROLLER SONY
5. WII CHARGE STATION NYKO
6. WII WHEEL GRIP NINTENDO OF AMERICA
7. WII PERFECT SHOT GUN GRIP NYKO
8. 360 LIVE 12 MONTH GOLD CARD MICROSOFT
9. 360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER MICROSOFT
10. 360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER BLACK MICROSOFT
Interesting.. people are not only buying Wii Play.. but also the Wiimote seperately
Speaking of analysts, Divinch sums up his thoughts on the Wii situation for the month (he estimated 3.2 million for the month)
Is this the general consensus? They could have pushed 4 million of them if they had them? Or are there any other theories out there?
http://www.videogamer.com/news/16-01-2009-10406.html
Is this the general consensus? They could have pushed 4 million of them if they had them? Or are there any other theories out there?
http://www.videogamer.com/news/16-01-2009-10406.html
I'm still puzzling over this chart:
Looking at the year running up to the end of the chart (Nov 07 - Nov 08?), it seems to suggest that 'HD' third party sales have been split pretty much 50:50 twixt 360 and PS3.
At month 12, PS3 was a smidgen over 5m, 360 a smidgen under 15m.
At month 23, PS3 had added 20m units, or a little less - to a smidgen under 25m - and 360 added..about 20m units, to 35m.
Hmmm?
That doesn't seem to jive with general perception. While it's not impossible, it seems very strange.
Did Nintendo do something funky to these numbers? Did they normalise them or something? Can anyone else verify these numbers?
edit - I've had a long day, so I might be reading the chart totally wrong :lol I really do puzzle at it though.
Looking at the year running up to the end of the chart (Nov 07 - Nov 08?), it seems to suggest that 'HD' third party sales have been split pretty much 50:50 twixt 360 and PS3.
At month 12, PS3 was a smidgen over 5m, 360 a smidgen under 15m.
At month 23, PS3 had added 20m units, or a little less - to a smidgen under 25m - and 360 added..about 20m units, to 35m.
Hmmm?
That doesn't seem to jive with general perception. While it's not impossible, it seems very strange.
Did Nintendo do something funky to these numbers? Did they normalise them or something? Can anyone else verify these numbers?
edit - I've had a long day, so I might be reading the chart totally wrong :lol I really do puzzle at it though.
Jtyettis said:
OK, THAT makes sense. I was wondering WTF was up with those numbers, they seemed very out of whack.
Are there non-aligned figures anywhere?
edit - I suppose what I can take from that one is that PS3 had a very bad first year for third parties compared to 360's first, but recovered to track it in the second year. (OR, 360 had a really good first year for third parties..)
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Regulus Tera said:Personal Trainer: Cooking deserves the sales.
I though Brawl would show in the TOP 10 for Wii. Sad.
Yea, but at 4.17MM units this year I don't think theres anyone too upset
tfur said:
Wow...
It really is a testimonial to how good the Microsoft marketing and PR handlers are, when you consider these charts. The two HD consoles sold the approximately the same globally this year, but one is singled out and given the "doomed" designation. Of course, it is also a testimonial to how poor Sony marketing and PR handlers are as well...
It seems like many are chest thumping about a few hundred thousand difference, while difference between the Wii and either HD console is ~13 million difference YTD.
Just talking about the numbers... not the history, expectations, intended sales, desires, price, specific markets, etc...
I mean just take a step back and look at that...
Wii YTD: 23.0 million
360 YTD: 9.9 million
PS3 YTD: 9.2 million
In reality, the Wii is in first class, sipping champagne, while the x360 and ps3 are fighting for a window seat in coach. No, the Wii is traveling by private jet, while the 360/PS3 are 2 kids fighting in the back seat of a station wagon.
LMFAO
:lol
Funny Stuff
Although on a serious note, you make a good point. Worldwide, PS3 and 360 and virtually neck and neck, however the doom and gloom comes mainly from PS3s performance in the US market, i.e. low software sales, decreasing hardware sales, and a widening gap from it's closest competitor.
It will be interesting indeed to see how the system performs in 2009.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
There are exceptions, but if supply isn't an issue December being double November usually isn't a bad guess.Jtyettis said:
John Dunbar
correct about everything
There's 13 games on Nintendo platforms in the top 20 and only one PS3 game. If Nintendo's PR is true and there was 20 games on Nintendo systems in the top 30, things are looking pretty gloomy for Sony. 7 games from 21-30 have to be on Nintendo platforms. ruh-roh.
Jtyettis said:
Could they have pushed 4 mil? I think so.
Were there supply problems? Most likely.
Was there any other reason for lower than potential sales? Possibly.
One theory I have is that perhaps with the current yen to dollar disparity they might have not pushed as many consoles into the US as they could have because they'd not see the same overall returns as if they pushed more units into other regions which see the same holiday seasons in retail and would have offered a better return. The idea being keep enough units flowing in to the US to maintain dominance of marketshare, but not go all out due to economic climate.
Evlar said:
Mostly because of a pretty awful first year for third parties on ps3.
It's second year's sales pretty much matched 360's second year (i.e. about 20m each).
It's overall numbers ltd will always be dragged down by year one, but it doesn't say much about the ongoing situation (nor does matching years to years, really..obviously 360 is 'a year ahead' in software sales, and comparing them without aligning launch dates would be less flattering for PS3).
Xisiqomelir
Member
Evlar said:
Nintendo is back to selling HUGE numbers for their first party line up; like the N64 days. Only this time they actually have a userbase that buys random shit too.
Not counting WiiPlay, we still have the following from this year alone.
- Mario Kart 5+ Million
- Wii Fit 4+
- SSBB 4+
Who knows where SMG and Zelda and few others are, but i am sure they all crossed at least 3+ million.
And I wonder where Halo 3 is at right now, because I think Mario Kart might be passing it soon to become the best selling single platform title in the US.
Not counting WiiPlay, we still have the following from this year alone.
- Mario Kart 5+ Million
- Wii Fit 4+
- SSBB 4+
Who knows where SMG and Zelda and few others are, but i am sure they all crossed at least 3+ million.
And I wonder where Halo 3 is at right now, because I think Mario Kart might be passing it soon to become the best selling single platform title in the US.
titiklabingapat
Member
I can't believe you even have to ask.Jtyettis said:
Long Answer: YEsssssssssssssssssssss
Short Answer: Yes.
And that's honestly one little bright spot of good news for the PS3. I think most people would say keeping pace with 360's 2007 software sales* is healthy, and it still has a smaller userbase.gofreak said:
* This is somewhat of an exaggeration. Looking closely at the chart it appears the 360 was ahead by 7.5 million at the 11 month mark and a little more than 10 million at the 23 month mark, so 360 packed on an extra 2.5 million sales over these aligned time periods.
AstroLad said:
Can I ask how old you are - and if you have a job (and if you live on your own)?
I love games/gaming and would own every console and handheld if I had the money and the time, but here's the catch: I'm an adult with a huge mortgage and many misc. bills to pay.
To say "it doesn't cost that much" to own 6 gaming systems (if you're including a gaming PC) as well as games for those systems is a complete joke if you aren't still living with your parents...
Elfforkusu
Member
I said lie to me, dammit!Evlar said:
Such a shame.