Pagusas
Elden Member
Mass Effect is the only game I can't hold a +100 overclocking on the gpu. I too got a few lock ups until I dropped down to a +50 overclock
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti launch/review day - 2017/03/09
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Mass Effect is the only game I can't hold a +100 overclocking on the gpu. I too got a few lock ups until I dropped down to a +50 overclock
The Dude
Member
Which card did you snag again Pagusas?
And I think I see what's been up, so most of these lockups I thought I was experiencing weren't lockups... I guess the game can have quick or unusually long load times from what I'm reading and a few times it'd just sit there after 20 or 30 seconds I'd just reboot out of annoyance. And the task manager didn't show it as not responding, which I thought was odd.
Well I had that happen earlier and just let it go, and after like a minute and half or so, it loaded. Weird, never seen anything like that to such degree but I think that's what I was experiencing yesterday for the most part and they weren't lockups.
Probably the worst game to be testing a new card on in general.
And I think I see what's been up, so most of these lockups I thought I was experiencing weren't lockups... I guess the game can have quick or unusually long load times from what I'm reading and a few times it'd just sit there after 20 or 30 seconds I'd just reboot out of annoyance. And the task manager didn't show it as not responding, which I thought was odd.
Well I had that happen earlier and just let it go, and after like a minute and half or so, it loaded. Weird, never seen anything like that to such degree but I think that's what I was experiencing yesterday for the most part and they weren't lockups.
Probably the worst game to be testing a new card on in general.
Are you running the latest beta of msi afterburner? I know voltage controls are unlocked in that version so it might show you the correct power percentage?
These 1080tis don't overclock well. Most 3rd party's did the overclocking for us. My msi card boosts to 1978mhz in normal mode. When i overclock it with 50 MHz i get higher average framerate but noticeably worse frametimes. So i just upped the power limit and the voltage. I left the clocks alone. Might give the memory another shot though.
The Dude
Member
Yea going to load up after burner here shortly. Was using precision since it's what I've always used.
What about frame pacing, like in Andromeda in solid at 60 4k but there are moments that feel like there's a Chop but I'm assuming that's frame pacing, is that just another case of Andromeda being the technical marvel that is?
What about frame pacing, like in Andromeda in solid at 60 4k but there are moments that feel like there's a Chop but I'm assuming that's frame pacing, is that just another case of Andromeda being the technical marvel that is?
Pagusas
Elden Member
MSI Gaming X
thats adromeda being amazing from my experience
CreepingFear
Member
Hmmm, that sucks. I think they are being cautious after that last thermal pad fiasco. We'll see.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
So I've got a water build I'm starting shortly but today hooked up everything up on a test bench with the CPU on a little Intel heatsink fan. Wanted to make sure everything worked properly before putting on blocks.
Switched my EVGA FE from my current system which has a 2600k @ 3.8 to the test which is a 7700k @ 4.5.
Current system Firestrike best was 16,864 with a graphics score of 29,510 (http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12344695).
Test bench Firestrike I just ran once a few mins ago and got a 21,518 with a graphics score of 31,017 (http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12374647).
In both cases the GPU was given 100% voltage with +150 core and +500 mem.
Some stats from Afterburner hardware monitor:
Power % max: 126
GPU temp max: 63
Core max: 2076
Mem max: 6003
Also ran Superposition once with +170 core and +350 mem; result was 9805.
Will be interesting to see how much more I can squeeze out once everything is on water.
Switched my EVGA FE from my current system which has a 2600k @ 3.8 to the test which is a 7700k @ 4.5.
Current system Firestrike best was 16,864 with a graphics score of 29,510 (http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12344695).
Test bench Firestrike I just ran once a few mins ago and got a 21,518 with a graphics score of 31,017 (http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12374647).
In both cases the GPU was given 100% voltage with +150 core and +500 mem.
Some stats from Afterburner hardware monitor:
Power % max: 126
GPU temp max: 63
Core max: 2076
Mem max: 6003
Also ran Superposition once with +170 core and +350 mem; result was 9805.
Will be interesting to see how much more I can squeeze out once everything is on water.
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
If you had the option to get the strix with a ftw3 on pre-order, would you get the strix?
Edit: strix will cost $80 more, but I can have it sooner
Edit: strix will cost $80 more, but I can have it sooner
I did this and have no regrets, the Strix is an excellent card and I can't imagine the FTW3 cooling solution being nearly as good
Nope. It doesn't matter to me how good the cooling solution on the Strix is. Experience has taught me that Asus doesn't stand behind their products if there is a problem.
family_guy
Member
These non-reference cards from ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte are fairly wide. Anyone try putting these in an mini-ITX case that only has two slots? I wanted to build a new system with something like the Fractal Node 304.
Pagusas
Elden Member
the node has a bit more than 2 slots of clearance for the GPU, enough for something like a FTW3, but I think you will have issues with a Strix or Gaming X.
DouglasteR
Member
Anyone manage to use the voltage slider in afterburner with the Gigabyte FE ?
I can use the .oem2 etc but the slider is bugged with a gigantic value
I can use the .oem2 etc but the slider is bugged with a gigantic value
family_guy
Member
Thanks. I need to find a small case with a 3 card slot.
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
Got my Aorus yesterday, had a few hours gaming on it across a few games and out of the box it seems to boost pretty comfortably to 1940Mhz and stay there for extended periods of time (e.g. in Mass Effect Andromeda). I'll see what I can get out of it OC wise at the weekend, but overall I'm very happy with it.
Came from an MSI 980 Ti Gaming OC.
Came from an MSI 980 Ti Gaming OC.
oO_CurrY_Oo
Member
Got my payment email for my EVGA SC so hopefully ill get it this week.
Anyone manage to use the voltage slider in afterburner with the Gigabyte FE ?
I can use the .oem2 etc but the slider is bugged with a gigantic value
Did you try the latest afterburner beta? It should be in there and working properly.
Jin
Member
Same. When I was OCing my Strix to 2025mhz Mass Effect was the only game that was crashing. Witcher 3, Mafia 3, GTAV and WoW all tested fine.
On the Evga side they got some interesting iCX VRM cooling going on...
GearDraxon
Member
EVGA Hybrid kit update:
- The fan included is OK, but not great. It's not PWM, and if you hook it up to the Hybrid shroud, it's always on at full blast. Great temps, but far too loud for me - this kit can get away with lower fan speed and still perform just fine, as we'll see below.
- I swapped the fan out for a PWM Corsair unit I had lying around: even worse. The Corsair had a high-pitched whine at anything other than near-off speeds.
- Bought a Darkside Gentle Typhoon: perfect. PWM, and able to push enough air for reasonable temps while only making a gentle whooshing.
- Currently OCed at +150 on the core, stock on the RAM, 120% power target. Tests with the previous cooling setup were super sensitive to memory overclocks, so I'm leaving this be for the moment.
- Firestrike (graphics section) benchmarking at ~31k.
- Mass Effect Andromeda is finally running without crashes, even with overclocks. GPU temps ranging from 39 to 49, hasn't topped 50 during gameplay.
Overall, I'm really happy with the results. Took quite a lot of time setting up and tweaking, but a fair amount of that was simply installing the kit. If EVGA makes a 1080ti Hybrid card, it's likely to be a knockout.
- The fan included is OK, but not great. It's not PWM, and if you hook it up to the Hybrid shroud, it's always on at full blast. Great temps, but far too loud for me - this kit can get away with lower fan speed and still perform just fine, as we'll see below.
- I swapped the fan out for a PWM Corsair unit I had lying around: even worse. The Corsair had a high-pitched whine at anything other than near-off speeds.
- Bought a Darkside Gentle Typhoon: perfect. PWM, and able to push enough air for reasonable temps while only making a gentle whooshing.
- Currently OCed at +150 on the core, stock on the RAM, 120% power target. Tests with the previous cooling setup were super sensitive to memory overclocks, so I'm leaving this be for the moment.
- Firestrike (graphics section) benchmarking at ~31k.
- Mass Effect Andromeda is finally running without crashes, even with overclocks. GPU temps ranging from 39 to 49, hasn't topped 50 during gameplay.
Overall, I'm really happy with the results. Took quite a lot of time setting up and tweaking, but a fair amount of that was simply installing the kit. If EVGA makes a 1080ti Hybrid card, it's likely to be a knockout.
Cool thanks.
DouglasteR
Member
djplaeskool
Member
My MSI Gaming X should show up today.
Pretty hype right now.
Pretty hype right now.
Yeah like i posted before overclocking the 1080 ti is pretty useless in most (3rd party) cases. You might get slightly higher averages in fps but your frametimes will suffer. My advice would be to just up the power and voltage limit so the card has more room to breath.
DiabolicalBagel
Member
My Gaming X is hitting just under 2GHz without touching the clocks myself. I'll have a play around with the clocks and voltages some point soon when I'm actually free, see what I can achieve.
Been waiting ages to upgrade my GPU, finally have my new card arrive and I'm too busy to use it for at least a week. xD
Been waiting ages to upgrade my GPU, finally have my new card arrive and I'm too busy to use it for at least a week. xD
The Dude
Member
Well I'm happy overall... My lockups weren't lockups tho cept early on when I had some crazy overclocks in.
Running 2025 solid, 60 locked in ME with Temps topped at 70 occasionally which drops me to 2000. I've seen 2038 when my Temps are 59ish.
Overall I'm happy, there are some bum Aorus cards out there but mine is solid. Andromeda is pretty much smooth as silk at 4k and can be a looker at times.
With that said I'm going to keep my ftw3 pre order and see what happens with it, just because it's hard to cut evga loose that quick but I figure it can't hurt to get it and simply see how that thing is reviewing and if it's getting glowing reviews then maybe I'll open and try or if not just send if back boxed and unopened. So we will see.
But glad I figured what was up, me is such a wonky game.
Running 2025 solid, 60 locked in ME with Temps topped at 70 occasionally which drops me to 2000. I've seen 2038 when my Temps are 59ish.
Overall I'm happy, there are some bum Aorus cards out there but mine is solid. Andromeda is pretty much smooth as silk at 4k and can be a looker at times.
With that said I'm going to keep my ftw3 pre order and see what happens with it, just because it's hard to cut evga loose that quick but I figure it can't hurt to get it and simply see how that thing is reviewing and if it's getting glowing reviews then maybe I'll open and try or if not just send if back boxed and unopened. So we will see.
But glad I figured what was up, me is such a wonky game.
GearDraxon
Member
The fan itself is super-noisy, at high speeds...but I've never heard it do that under normal usage. It's also the only fan in the kit that Precision/Afterburner can control manually, so I cranked it up to see how bad it got: *very* loud. I'm pretty sure it's below the noise floor of the rest of the system otherwise, but if I open up the case again I'll see if I can pick it out.
Hellshingu
Member
For the Aorus you'll need to use Gigabyte software to get the 150% power mark. Just download their software from the website and try it out. At least until it gets over into Afterburner.
The Dude
Member
I was reading on Overclock that the power is in essence the same even with showing only 125 in how it works. This dude posted this:
The regular Aorus is 125% which hits 375w. Xtreme Aorus is 150% which also hits 375w. They are the same even though the power limit is different.
So overall I'm confused as I thought for being extreme I would get more than the non version with 150 power, so not sure.
I have their software but it's what came with the disc, can re-download it and see
Hellshingu
Member
Interesting. I sent mine back before I could really mess with it so I guess I could be wrong.
Celcius
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The Dude
Member
Gigabyte seems to have a bit of a mess overall from what im gathering which figures because it's the first time I jumped ship, so thats classic.
But overall the cards that are working and that are good are really good cards, I'm happy mine is solid. But man I'm dying to see what the ftw3 can do just in general. I also absolutely love how the ftw3 looks, but we will see what happens with it
DOT DASH DOT
Member
Really pleased with the Aorus, finally got mine 8 days after it being sent next day delivery.......
Anyway, a solid 2038mhz, 60% fan speed and VERY quiet. 62c max, fantastic!
Anyway, a solid 2038mhz, 60% fan speed and VERY quiet. 62c max, fantastic!
Hellshingu
Member
Fans are much quieter than the STRIX fans were at their respective speeds. Same with the Zotac.
innervision961
Member
I want to upgrade my card but I'm stuck at an awkward point where I don't know if I should upgrade or just build anew. What do you guys think?
i7 4770k
Wind force 780
16gb ddr3
It's a couple years old at this point, just I just start fresh?
i7 4770k
Wind force 780
16gb ddr3
It's a couple years old at this point, just I just start fresh?
The Dude
Member
Yea 2038 is where I'm finally landing. It's definitely super quiet and the Temps are just marvy.
Yea man I wish I could try them all and compare. That's a bummer those fans are a bit louder. When I cranked these I thought here we go it's going to sound like a rocket but man it's what I'd consider average fan noise, nothing that's out of the ordinary loud, it's just there but anyone with headphones or with any type of sound can simply drowm it out.
Loving that temp at mid 50s with 100% fans, that's awesome on air. And running 4k, it's nuts that we're finally getting cards that can push that kind of power these days.
DOT DASH DOT
Member
I'm starting out at 2063 for quite a while, then it goes between 2050 and 2038. I'm coming from an 1080 and I'm seeing quite a difference in frame rate, Deus EX is massively improved at 4K, and playing Bayonetta at 7K 60fps is glorious!
The Dude
Member
Yea dude it's a huge jump and you couldn't be more right with Deus Ex. It's why I had stopped for awhile because I had my 1080 going and while it was good in many ways it sure didn't help my cause in mankind divided. There was a heaviness to it all, the cam movement was sluggish... And with the ti it feels incredible and at 4k to boot, it absolutely feels top notch. It's one I'm dying to jump back into.
Were you able to get any extra OC?
Also are you using afterburner or auros engine?
DOT DASH DOT
Member
I'm using Afterburner, an extra 85mhz, so I guess in total with the factory OC it's 185mhz, any more and some games crash, so far so good! What have you managed? Any idea how to unlock higher 150 power limit? Keeps saying I'm on the latest Afterburner beta, version 4?
The Dude
Member
From everything I've learned on Overclock, It actually doesn't matter if you have the 125 power limit or 150 for the Aorus' cards, they all have a max power draw of 375w. So I think we're good there regardless.
And very cool, I haven't tested a ton yet but sitting at 25 and 325, so going to definitely try to push more later and see what we have going on.
Hopefully I can bump mine up a bit more.
masterkajo
Member
I have a r5 1600 on order and I somehow got me a MSI Gaming X 1080 ti for 760 (which is a pretty good price in Europe) due to ship in early May.
I am probably in the wrong thread for this, but should I really get the 1080 ti? 760 is actually quite a sum of money and I am not sure if my R5 1600 will bottleneck the 1080 ti hard. On the other hand, I just bought a 1440p 165Hz g-sync monitor which would love that card.
Maybe I should just get a "cheap" 1070 from amazon.fr (they have them for about 380) and play most games at 60FPS (maybe with some lowered settings) and competetive games at mid to low at 165fps. The 1080 ti would allow me to get 100+ fps on games at ultra but are these extra 40+ fps worth it for about 380 more? G-sync should make the 60fps feel smooth with the 1070 anyway. But than again why did I buy a 600 1440p 165Hz g-sync monitor? Maybe to keep it for many years and to be able to play competetive games at 165fps (with lowered settings) and all other games with a smooth 60 (thanks to g-sync)?
A 1080 would also be an option though I feel for about 500 to 600 it is near the ti price range with less performance.
Anyway, thanks for reading my thoughts and feel free to give your 0.02.
I am probably in the wrong thread for this, but should I really get the 1080 ti? 760 is actually quite a sum of money and I am not sure if my R5 1600 will bottleneck the 1080 ti hard. On the other hand, I just bought a 1440p 165Hz g-sync monitor which would love that card.
Maybe I should just get a "cheap" 1070 from amazon.fr (they have them for about 380) and play most games at 60FPS (maybe with some lowered settings) and competetive games at mid to low at 165fps. The 1080 ti would allow me to get 100+ fps on games at ultra but are these extra 40+ fps worth it for about 380 more? G-sync should make the 60fps feel smooth with the 1070 anyway. But than again why did I buy a 600 1440p 165Hz g-sync monitor? Maybe to keep it for many years and to be able to play competetive games at 165fps (with lowered settings) and all other games with a smooth 60 (thanks to g-sync)?
A 1080 would also be an option though I feel for about 500 to 600 it is near the ti price range with less performance.
Anyway, thanks for reading my thoughts and feel free to give your 0.02.
The Dude
Member
Honestly, if you can afford to buy the 1080 ti do it... It's an absolute monster of a gpu. Honestly I wouldn't even consider anything less at this point if someone doesn't have to. But that's just me.
DOT DASH DOT
Member
I won't bother then, I'm not gonna get anything more out of it anyway by the sounds. I'm at +700 for memory, you'll easy get gains there.
ColdDeckEd
Member
You said it yourself, a 1080ti is a perfect fit for that 165hz 1440p gsync display. Just make sure to oc the 1600 as much as possible, get some 3200mhz ram that plays nice with Ryzen and you should be good.
The Dude
Member
Yea, I got to the same point with it and just stopped worrying about it when I found that out.
And that's great, I'm lookin forward to thoroughly testing some numbers.