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Official Chinese Democracy release thread
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Holy shit that sounds fucking awesome.
I think I liked the leaked version a bit more than the official radio single. It's a really poor choice for a lead single, but in this case I don't think it really matters. People, like me, will be buying the CD just because it's Chinese Democracy, regardless if it's a weak lead single. I'd expect 'There Was A Time' to be the second or third single, as it's just too good to keep an album cut.
Fei said:
I think Chinese Democracy is just meant to try and appeal to certain groups as a single. Die Hard GnR fans have been waiting years and will be there day one as will probably alot of other rock fans that are sick of the pop rock bullshit. The Album as a whole based on the leaks flows well enough.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Which is misleading, since it was just a weird random odd track.laserbeam said:
It's been 17 years since a true GNR track has surfaced.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I actually think IRS should be the second single, followed by There Was A Time and Better. IMHO...Fei said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Ideal order would have been IRS, There Was a Time, Better. Street of Dreams would have been great as a single 15 years ago, but that kind of track doens't really sit well as a single these days.twinturbo2 said:
proposition said:
I bet you are wrong!
I love the new vocal tack.
I am not sure it is an official single. It's been released to radio but not technically a single, so who really cares? The song is freaking awesome.
Also, tonight Tedesco! will be given his new avatar. It's one for the ages.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Glad to see them follow up.shantyman said:
I AM JOHN!
Banned
How is this album actually coming out?
How?
Which horseman is this, GAF? I can't remember.
How?
Which horseman is this, GAF? I can't remember.
Buckethead
Banned
jett said:
Wat?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's what he sounds like; haven't you ever herad "It's So Easy" or "Mr. Brownstone?"j-wood said:
The high voice is all head voice with some bluesy grit. He naturally has a low voice.
Buckethead
Banned
Tedesco! said:
Did he have to buy the record too?
Corwood Rep
Member
legend166 said:
I find it historic that this album actually exists, and I might buy it for ironic purposes ("I was fucking there"), but no, it's not particularly good. Just sounds like radio-friendly hard rock. It's in the upper-tier of modern radio hard rock, easily, but that's not saying a whole lot.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They should have done a better job mixing Thal's "sleazy" rhythm track with all the layered Fortus/Finck tracks. They sound weird together; like they slapped Thal's new track right on top of a completed master of the song.
Buckethead
Banned
Angry Grimace said:
What part are you referring to?
Honestly, I think its very well mixed. It's very complex. It's certainly not straight forward type rock, it's a large meal and takes awhile to digest. If you don't listen you can miss out on what it has to offer.....
For example you can choose to listen to the lead track but miss out on rhythm and vice versa. Musical "opportunity cost". The rhythm track is great and there's this really heavy riff. Very catchy hook.
Bucket's lead track and the solo are really good. It's certainly not the Slash-esque bluesy style but it's very "tweaky". If you let it carry you away, it's like an emotional exploration. I don't know how to explain it, but it's really cool. And the refrain definitely sticks. People talk about it "ending before it gets started" but I totally disagree, it's an adrenaline ride of pure hatred, it's supposed to end unresolved. "Out of Time" the ending lyric goes.
Official Song Credit:
Guitars: Paul Tobias, Robin Finck, Buckethead, Ron Thal, and Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Axl Rose
Guns N Roses is going On Tour End of this year and next year.
Two Dates announced for this year so far.
December 7, 2008
Winnipeg MB, Canada
December 10, 2008
Huntington WV, USA
Hopefully they dont fuck it up this time. I still have 2 tickets to a December, 22nd 2002 show they cancelled like 2 weeks before. Man that fucking sucked so close to Christmas only to have it cancelled :/
Two Dates announced for this year so far.
December 7, 2008
Winnipeg MB, Canada
December 10, 2008
Huntington WV, USA
Hopefully they dont fuck it up this time. I still have 2 tickets to a December, 22nd 2002 show they cancelled like 2 weeks before. Man that fucking sucked so close to Christmas only to have it cancelled :/
Buckethead
Banned
laserbeam said:
Those dates are fake.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
EWOO! EWOO! EWOO! EWOO!! 15 Years and this is all they could come up with!
Oh and:
:lol
Buckethead
Banned
shagg_187 said:
It's too bad that you don't understand the point of the cover.
Zeppelin IV is one of the best rock albums ever yet it's cover is very simple.
Would you rather they release an ultra-futurist pretentious cover akin the the Star Wars: A New Hope with Stephanie Seymour riding Axl's leg in a space-themed background?
It's subtle, refined, and timeless. Just like what the album aims to be. So far I'm sold.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Buckethead said:
No. I rather have this:
Oh and Zeppelin IV is fucking amazing. It's cover is definitely simple and that's what makes it amazing. Chinese Democracy cover has shit all over it! I rather have the artwork on it's own and let it speak for itself instead of covering it up with "BIG BOLD SIDEWAYS LETTERS" following by a bad logo placement. Pick one direction, not all. It looks something out of the "Random band and album generator" thread.
Buckethead
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Well the great thing about iTunes and all that is that you can put your own in there then.
The artwork on the backcover is killer. If you don't like that, there's no talking to you...
The artwork on the backcover is killer. If you don't like that, there's no talking to you...
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Buckethead said:Well the great thing about iTunes and all that is that you can put your own in there then.
The artwork on the backcover is killer. If you don't like that, there's no talking to you...
Fine...
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's hard to explain if you haven't heard the earlier track. Ron Thal put a "sleazy ol' GNR guitar rhythm" on the new songs; on the left in the part right after the opening riff when the band comes in, you can hear a guitar track that's slightly out of time. That was Thal, doing that on purpose to get some bluesy sleaze into the song, and make it sound less like a guitar machine. He's also playing the harmonic-laden riffs on the right side starting when the band stops and Axl starts singing "If they were missionaries..." It's somewhat jarring if you ask me.Buckethead said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If I were you I would have waited until the album is actually on a shelf. You never know with Axl Rose.Tedesco! said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Apparently, an extremely low quality version of the album leaked sometime recently. Basically, there was a lot of bitching that all of the "unheard" songs are all ballads. :lol
What that means is, the album has like 9 ballads and 5 "rock" songs. :lol
Not good Axl, not good
What that means is, the album has like 9 ballads and 5 "rock" songs. :lol
Not good Axl, not good
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
From what I've been told (I didn't hear them, I just read); Sorry is a ballad, Scraped is a rocker with a "bad intro." Everybody is complaining that Sebastian Bach was crazy saying it's "Doom metal," because Sorry is just another ballad (and that he was edited out of that song).shantyman said:
From the a GNR message board discussing the leaks:
That was what a friend who d/l'd it told me.
I'm probably going to wait for release myself.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
....what?yacobod said:
I am aware of that. But there were not more ballads than rock tracks on there.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
I love GN'R ballads and their epic songs. Locomotive, Breakdown, Coma etc. are awesome and totally underrated.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Coma, Locomotive and Breakdown are all not ballads.John Dunbar said:
A ballad would be "Don't Cry" or "Estranged." Estranged is the best thing they've ever put to a tape, easy. But less than 1:1 isn't a good ratio.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
Angry Grimace said:
That's why I also said epic songs. I didn't feel the need to mention Don't Cry, Estranged or November Rain because they're plenty famous, while those I mentioned are much more overlooked.
aparisi2274
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Angry Grimace said:
I love estranged... I actually prefer the live version off their Live 87-93 CD.
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