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Official XBOX 360 Madden 2009 Season 2* Thread: RROD Don't Scare Us!
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BigJonsson
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Are the Lions on now?
BigJonsson
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AirBrian said:
I'll just see if hes on AIM
Oh he isnt
Hopefully he checks his Gaf inbox then =/
BigJonsson
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I'm down 21-2 at the half haha
BigJonsson
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I stink
Lost 35-2
Eli Manning needs to stop throwing into double coverage
Lost 35-2
Eli Manning needs to stop throwing into double coverage
MWS Natural
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I was looking at the rules on the leaguedaddy site but I did not see one about being able to manually move your defenders (not rush them) before the snap. Does a rule like this exist? A league member told me moving my men around before the snap was illegal.
Based on previous years:
You can:
1) move a single safety up to the line for run support when you're controlling him
2) move a lb or safety closer to the man that they have to cover..
3) move a DL man that you're playing left or right, as long as you stay within the OL formation. For instance, I can do a DLine shift to the right, and just move a single DE back over the OT, creating a huge whole over the LG and C.
You can't:
1)Manually move a DE further outside of the OT/TE in order to circle around the pass blocking.
2) Move multiple safeties up to the line.
You can:
1) move a single safety up to the line for run support when you're controlling him
2) move a lb or safety closer to the man that they have to cover..
3) move a DL man that you're playing left or right, as long as you stay within the OL formation. For instance, I can do a DLine shift to the right, and just move a single DE back over the OT, creating a huge whole over the LG and C.
You can't:
1)Manually move a DE further outside of the OT/TE in order to circle around the pass blocking.
2) Move multiple safeties up to the line.
it's blatant cheese and is called nano blitzing. The only difference is with a nano the user knows for a fact an exploit is going to occur and with randomly moving guys it it just sometimes happens. Regardless its cheese.LJ11 said:
Just because it works in the game doesn't mean it's sim ball. The bridge between what happens in the nfl, and how to simulate it in Madden can be difficult for incoming members. As many like to call out, when I came to gaf 2 years ago I struggled with that problem as well. It had always been "just win," not "win, but do it the right way." Sim ball is a lot harder and a LOT more fun. That's why 70%+ of us stay around. And the community grows on you.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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vumpler said:
u on to play week 2 preseason right now?
TheDrizzlerJ11
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vumpler said:
as of now it does, i'll send you a pm if my plans change.
Classic_Gs
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How about later tonight?TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
Slo said:
Slo I don't really know what you're looking for? Type "nano blitz" into google and click any link. Here are the first 2
urbandictionary.com said:
And a video of the goal of nano blitzing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVGOavcA-tE
Basically it's just a way to glitch the AI for the benefit of getting a sack. If it doesn't occur on the real football field consistently then don't do it. If you have a slight question of "this could be an iffy call and go either way" then DON'T do it. If everyone is respectful of everyone else with the goal of building a community and not just winning games, everything will come out correctly.
MWS Natural
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vumpler said:
Moving multiple defenders =! nano blitzing, two seperate things. In past years you could move defenders into specific places to cause unrealistic pressure up the middle but just moving a LB over a reciever or a safety over a TE for coverage purposes is entirely different. Especially when many times the safties will walk up to the line on their own in the game. Still if this is a rule then it needs to be written out and included because currently it is not.
My understanding is that it is a very specific exploit. However when people are moving all these players around closer to the line. Bringing safety's down etc. Hit Y and Left and that will bring them down.Slo said:
I just don't agree with movement of defenders outside of the player you are controlling.
If you are moving a player because he can't seem to line up with his man that's one thing, but most of the time they are being moved for blitz reasons which Natural was referring to initially.
Nano blitzing is exploiting the O-Line AI, overloading a specific part of the line with manually shifted defenders, to cause insane amounts of pressure without giving up coverage, ie getting in consistently with 3-4 defenders.
I'm with vumpler, the main reason people manually shift is to nano.
I'm with vumpler, the main reason people manually shift is to nano.
i thought it had always been a rule that you cant move more than 1 guy presnap and if you did move one guy, you had to control that guy after the snap. anyway, i think we should make it a rule or vote on it. no manual movement of any player unless you plan on controlling him after the snap.
The problem I have with this years game is that you can't Open up the pass game by establishing a solid running game early. It has to be the opposite. It seems good running games this year are established by poor play calling on the defense almost single handedly.Slo said:
TheDrizzlerJ11
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vumpler said:
same as my username waiting for you to get back on now...
sableholic
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LJ11 said:
I agree only move the guy you are going to be. Sorry about heading out after the skins massacre. I'm around now though if your up for our game.
just want to make sure about something.
in the 3-4 defense, doing a cover 2 is really weird. like, only two guys will line up at the line of scrimmage. Demarcus Ware will still rush the QB but he'll be all the way near the slot receiver which pretty much makes his pass rush useless.
is it ok if i move him where he would normally be (across from the LT).
in the 3-4 defense, doing a cover 2 is really weird. like, only two guys will line up at the line of scrimmage. Demarcus Ware will still rush the QB but he'll be all the way near the slot receiver which pretty much makes his pass rush useless.
is it ok if i move him where he would normally be (across from the LT).
MWS Natural
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BirdBomb said:
I just don't see how this could be a problem unless someone was doing it to make create a nano blitz. Many real NFL defenses line up with LB's and safeties in different locations, the auto shifts can't always duplicate this. Anyways atleast a vote will make it a concrete rule either way and not just a complaint. I've played several league members so far and no one had a problem with how I run my defense.
MWS Natural
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vumpler said:
Jaguars...same team I used in the tourney.
Well the Jag's don't play like the Eagles or the Ravens in their super bowl run. So would making your sim Jaguars defense reminiscent of the ravens D make a whole lot of sense?MWS Natural said:
If so then do it... But I don't know how the rest feel about it.
not hating, just playing devils advocate so you see their point.
MWS Natural
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I always thought that was the beauty of Madden, you are the coach. The Jags run a 43 defense in real life but I feel they have the personel to run a 34. If you had to run everything the same way as real life you might as well require people to use each teams Playbook and not a Playbook of their choice.
MWS Natural
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pheeniks said:
Preseason game?
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