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Jhoan

Member
Yeah man, things started taking a turn for the better me after Tuesday in my personal/career life. I'm gonna be doing graphic design work for a start up and complete creative control to do whatever I want/add professional work stuff to my portfolio and I'm gonna be a published writer in a week's time as I'll be writing articles for a start up news website. Both things are thanks to a good friend of mines from college who put in a good word for me. Plus I'm hitting the gym more than a day this week and getting back into a drawing rhythm. Life is good.
 
What happened to a nice message of "Hi, how are you?" anyways? Dating is weird.

Also, is b/w bad? I've heard it is, but never cared as much as I maybe should've. I really like my picture, even though it's seven years old. I still look pretty much the same and have hardly any pictures of myself in recent years. Especially ones I like.
 

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I'm at my wit's end with online dating shenanigans. I thought I knew what I was doing, as I had moderate success in my hometown... but ever since moving to a big city I have been zero for literally over 300. It's incredibly frustrating... I think my profile is funny and represents me accurately, and I put individual effort into every single message I write (read: that's 300 wasted attempts that I could have spent my time on much better elsewhere).

I have no idea what the deal is - I think my profile and messages are BETTER than when I was having some success back in my hometown. Is the competition that much fiercer in a large city? My reasoning before moving here was "Perfect! There will be a ton more candidates with a larger likelihood of sharing my specific interests!"

I think taking an extended hiatus is the only logical thing to do here - seven months of failure despite the effort I've been putting in is maddening. Though OKC is my ONLY dating avenue right now. Time to make content with another few years of the single life, I guess.

I've come to the conclusion that with a larger population comes more flakes and not more daters. I think there are a lot of women that are probably lonely and want to feel like they're making an effort to meet and date people, but truthfully have little or no motivation to actually do either of those things. If you can put some pictures up on a website, at least you can tell yourself you tried, even if that's not true.

'Cause I'm basically in the same boat, I've only had a few conversations with women on this site, and never met anyone. I've tried different tactics on my profile, being funny, being super honest, trying to show the fun things I do. I never send generic messages, but I've gotten minimal attention.
 
What happened to a nice message of "Hi, how are you?" anyways? Dating is weird.

Also, is b/w bad? I've heard it is, but never cared as much as I maybe should've. I really like my picture, even though it's seven years old. I still look pretty much the same and have hardly any pictures of myself in recent years. Especially ones I like.

It's a terrible conversation starter. It makes it look like you have nothing to say. Unless of course you have other stuff in your message.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
It's a terrible conversation starter. It makes it look like you have nothing to say. Unless of course you have other stuff in your message.

Boom. Ask a question about something in their profile. Tell a joke. Break the ice right away.

1 wasn't asking me any questions back at all so I stopped talking to her.

This, however, does confuse me. I assume you're interested because you keep replying, but why aren't you making any effort to meet me half way?
 
I'm at my wit's end with online dating shenanigans. I thought I knew what I was doing, as I had moderate success in my hometown... but ever since moving to a big city I have been zero for literally over 300. It's incredibly frustrating... I think my profile is funny and represents me accurately, and I put individual effort into every single message I write (read: that's 300 wasted attempts that I could have spent my time on much better elsewhere).
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wow, 300 messages. I just recently gave up okcupid after about 50 messages without any reply, even though most of them were individually crafted to their profile. Don't know what is wrong with that site, because I am average looking and intelligent .. so at least 1 person out of 50 should have showed a minimal amount of interest.

You could give Tinder a try. I don't get many matches there, but the ones I do get at least usually answer and sometimes even message first. And the app is pretty low maintenance, so you don't feel lika having a part time job.
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
wow, 300 messages. I just recently gave up okcupid after about 50 messages without any reply, even though most of them were individually crafted to their profile. Don't know what is wrong with that site, because I am average looking and intelligent .. so at least 1 person out of 50 should have showed a minimal amount of interest.

You could give Tinder a try. I don't get many matches there, but the ones I do get at least usually answer and sometimes even message first. And the app is pretty low maintenance, so you don't feel lika having a part time job.

I had something going but I decided to wait until I am at least as good looking as you. Stop making me worry!
 

Palpable

Member
I'm just going to give up on OKC. :c

I got back on after a good while, and I see this girls profile. She's so fuckin' cute.. She also has really short hair and bring 5'4" herself with my 5'11" self.

I liked her, and it turns out she liked me before. I message her yesterday, and I got a response this morning. I haven't had the time to reply, so when I go to respond to the message. She deleted/disabled her account.

This is the third time.. :(

What the fuck? Bad luck or...?
 
I had something going but I decided to wait until I am at least as good looking as you. Stop making me worry!

yeah about that .. looking like me is definitely not a goal anybody who wants to do online dating should aspire to . 1200+ Tinder swipes and about 15 matches says it all ;)
 

Symphonia

Banned
I'm considering giving up on OKCupid and Plenty Of Fish. I might give up and delete Tinder, too. This past week has been horrible in terms of, well, everything. Most of the girls I've spoken to this past week have been vile. I've been on these sites for over a year now, and I've not had any luck. I just feel like deleting them all and becoming a complete social recluse.
 

Symphonia

Banned
In what sense?
Their profiles and the way they percieve themselves are completely different to how they actually are once I started talking to them. It's like they act all sweet and shit to lure you or bait you, then they're complete assholes once they have you hooked. A number of girls 'liked' me, and I liked what I saw and 'liked' them back, but when I started to make conversation with them, they just couldn't be bothered. Or the one's who did take the time to reply were so different how their profile made them out to be.
 
Their profiles and the way they percieve themselves are completely different to how they actually are once I started talking to them. It's like they act all sweet and shit to lure you or bait you, then they're complete assholes once they have you hooked. A number of girls 'liked' me, and I liked what I saw and 'liked' them back, but when I started to make conversation with them, they just couldn't be bothered. Or the one's who did take the time to reply were so different how their profile made them out to be.

What about the girl(s?) you were seeing the other week? That not work out?
 

ATF487

Member
I honestly don't even know anymore. :/

That's happened to me a couple of times, three in a row does seem unlucky though :(

I think I'm going to disable my OKC profile for awhile. I have decent success getting initial responses but either I lose interest in the conversation, or the girl does.
Or people like Arsenic don't respond to my lovely, polite inquiries :p

Also had a date two weeks ago that seemed to go well, and apparently I blew it when I asked if we could hangout again on a Thursday instead of earlier in the week (she said she was fine with Tuesday/Wednesday.) Whatever.
 
That's happened to me a couple of times, three in a row does seem unlucky though :(

I think I'm going to disable my OKC profile for awhile. I have decent success getting initial responses but either I lose interest in the conversation, or the girl does.
Or people like Arsenic don't respond to my lovely, polite inquiries :p

Also had a date two weeks ago that seemed to go well, and apparently I blew it when I asked if we could hangout again on a Thursday instead of earlier in the week (she said she was fine with Tuesday/Wednesday.) Whatever.

Haha! I would've but I've disabled my profile after seeing the guy I had a first date with deleted his. He ended up spending the night. Very different from the type of guy I'm normally into (a little heavier that I typically go for), but I find myself very attracted to him. He's very calm and cool but at the same time expressive. We had planned to go see the shining today, but I had to go to a thesis workshop so we separated with the idea that we'd reconvene later. Problems arose when we both woke up feeling incredibly sick. He suggested we see it tomorrow morning and we could still do something tonight. Really enjoying him, his calmness really relaxes me and he actually enjoyed my anxiousness and intensity.
but if things dont work out, I certainly wouldn't mind going out for coffee sometime atf :p
 
I am absolutely terrible at coming up with something to write for my Tinder profile - halp.

Like, for the successful peeps out there getting matches frequently, how did you brainstorm your profile and then choose the correct words to say?

Thanks to everyone!
 

Llyranor

Member
We just detected that you’re now among the most attractive people on OkCupid.

We learned this from clicks to your profile and reactions to you in Quickmatch. Did you get a new haircut or something?
Well, it’s working!

This email is such BS. I've only had 2 replies (that went nowhere) from all the (personalized with a hint of humor) messages I've sent so far. Yes, girls have been independently messaging and liking me, but they haven't generally been the ones I'm interested in. THOSE ones just flat out ignore me.
 
That's happened to me a couple of times, three in a row does seem unlucky though :(

I think I'm going to disable my OKC profile for awhile. I have decent success getting initial responses but either I lose interest in the conversation, or the girl does.
Or people like Arsenic don't respond to my lovely, polite inquiries :p

Also had a date two weeks ago that seemed to go well, and apparently I blew it when I asked if we could hangout again on a Thursday instead of earlier in the week (she said she was fine with Tuesday/Wednesday.) Whatever.

I'm probably going to disable mine for similar reasons. I'm terrible at responding to messages and I feel bad because some cool dudes have sent me ones but I haven't wanted to respond back. Not really fair to them.

Plus, the one date I had earlier this week has apparently led to nothing. I'm just not ready for this shit.
 
This email is such BS. I've only had 2 replies (that went nowhere) from all the (personalized with a hint of humor) messages I've sent so far. Yes, girls have been independently messaging and liking me, but they haven't generally been the ones I'm interested in. THOSE ones just flat out ignore me.

Now double or triple your frustration and you know how many of the people feel who didn't get that mail. They are ignored by the women they are interested in AND by the women they are not really interested in. So not even a little ego boost.
--

But on a happy note: Got 1 or 2 Tinder-Dates next week.
Tinder >>>>> okcupid
At least for me in my region (Berlin)
 

thomas_mutton

Neo Member
- Likes from a guy aren't worth much. Most likely was based just off your pic. Likes from a girl on the other hand are worth much more. Good way to show your interest in a guy while kind of allowing him to make the first move. Since the liking system isn't mandatory, it's use has been hit or miss for me. As a guy, I signed up for A-List so I can see who likes me...I can get a ~70% return message rate through the like system vs ~15% by cold-messaging.

- Answer a lot of questions. 100 minimum. Be honest, and use the Importance scale. In a perfect system, both sides would be perfectly honest and answer how they truly feel. In reality, that's why we allow for a lot of wiggle room. This determines match percentage, and generally anything over 70% is fair game. That gives you a starting point. You then just browse through profiles...if you like their pics, if you like what they wrote, you send them a message.

- If you try to message everyone, you'll go mad. A lot of guys try the "spray and pray" approach - fire off as many messages as possible, and hope one hits. They didn't read your profile and they might not've even looked at your pics. If they didn't spend too much time on a message, why should you? And if you're not attracted to a person, there's no problem just ignoring them. If you have no intention of dating someone, don't waste their (and your) time.

Thanks for the tips.

-After more than 680 "likes" that would be just utterly useless of a metric. I guess people maybe just like everyone they match with, because that way you get a notification if said person likes you back without having to pay. (I assume that's how it works). I turned off visitors as well, because the notifications are really distracting and there is way too much noise.
-I no longer have any ambition of replying to everyone (that did not last long). It still makes me a bit frustrated when I end up having to ignore decent looking guys, who obviously have taken the time to look at my profile, but I just don't have that much time available. It kind of feels like I am drowning in noise at the moment. People you reply to respond back relatively fast, but then you also continually get messages from new people as well, so you can see the little pinging icon show up while you are trying to type.

I guess I understand why there are so many "flakey" girls on there now, can't say I blame them. But I have been able to have some nice chats about literature, games, science and delicious pies, and seems like I might have a date set up for next week, so hopfulle it will be worth the stress.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
This, however, does confuse me. I assume you're interested because you keep replying, but why aren't you making any effort to meet me half way?


you??? wuttttt


i assume you meant her. She isn't making any effort to meet ME halfway. not gonna waste my time.
 

Palpable

Member
Got a bit of a dilemma here. EDIT: I guess I don't?

Not sure how many of you saw my prior threads (1st one locked, 2nd one deleted), but my ex and I had a nasty break up which threw me into a spiral of depression. The break up happened on Nov. 20th. My ex hates me now due to shit I did/said after the break up due to my depression/grief. What made it all worse is that she ended up dating some other guy like 2 weeks after said break up and already lives with him. He was clearly the real reason for said break up. She wanted to pursue him. To put things in perspective, we were a very serious couple, totally planning on marriage, etc. To the point that her whole family was waiting on me to propose.

Fast forwards exactly 3 months; Feb. 20th. This girl I met online in 2010 whom I used to like, but kept stringing me along and had some bad habits, ends up texting me out of nowhere. Reason her & I stopped talking is because when my ex and I first got together in the summer of 2013, she knew I liked this other girl and saw how pretty she is (she really is super hot) and made me quit talking to her. I didn't mind, because I was tired of this hot girl's shit.

Anyway, she (hot girl) texts me, wondering how I'm doing, etc. We both catch up and she is understanding. I also explain to her about how I'm not naive to her games anymore. She acknowledges that she was a total cunt and was in a bad place years ago, but has grown up. Keep in mind I only met this girl once in person. She's only 2-3 hours drive away from me.

On the flip side, there is a girl I've been talking to from okcupid. We ended up exchanging numbers. However, she doesn't text me very much. I threw around the idea of hanging out in person. She seemed to think that'd be cool, but hasn't responded beyond that (been hours).

Anyway, this is the first time in a long time that I'm too distracted to torture myself with thoughts of my ex. I think I'm slowly getting over her thanks to talking to several pretty ladies, having finally sold my other car (pain in the ass it was), and a possible job prospect.

I don't really know what my question is, if I even ever had one. I just had to get this shit off my chest.
 

Kerrinck

Member
Ok, finally started online dating through tinder since It's the only one I know of that is big where I live.
Probably a silly question but looks like after I get a match, I can start messaging the person. Any tips on convo starters? Just a generic Hi?
 
Hey guys, I've got a question. I'm about a week into using OKCupid and haven't had many responses. This one girl whom I messaged has yet to message me back, but she KEEPS looking at my profile. Should I message her again or just not worry about that?

I, too, have also felt the sting of messaging someone and then they delete their account. Weird thing was she messaged ME first, we talk for like two days, I give her my number and then she deletes her account and never contacts me. Disappointing, but what can ya do?
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Well, yeah. I was talking from my perspective to a hypothetical unresponsive lady.

Still confusing, but I'll let it be.

When someone gives you one word responses and no questions back after 3 responses, its like having a conversation with yourself at that point. One girl I had a longer conversation with and it was infuriating because I was just saying "oh yeah me too" over and over. Unless their profile was super charming for some reason, I just won't bother after the 3rd one anymore
 
Still confusing, but I'll let it be.

When someone gives you one word responses and no questions back after 3 responses, its like having a conversation with yourself at that point. e

yeah, the good ol' Idiot Loop.

You: Question.
Her: Answer.
You: Response to answer + new question
Her: Answer.
You: Response to answer + new question
Her: Answer.
You: Response to answer + new question
Her: Answer.

Almost never leads to a date. So stopping after a few messages is definitely recommended.
 

BIGWORM

Member
Had another date with mini-golf chick from the other day. Went and saw Kingsman (good movie). Another date setup for mid-week to go bowling, one of her hobbies. Seems to be going good so far.
 

ATF487

Member
Haha! I would've but I've disabled my profile after seeing the guy I had a first date with deleted his. He ended up spending the night. Very different from the type of guy I'm normally into (a little heavier that I typically go for), but I find myself very attracted to him. He's very calm and cool but at the same time expressive. We had planned to go see the shining today, but I had to go to a thesis workshop so we separated with the idea that we'd reconvene later. Problems arose when we both woke up feeling incredibly sick. He suggested we see it tomorrow morning and we could still do something tonight. Really enjoying him, his calmness really relaxes me and he actually enjoyed my anxiousness and intensity.
but if things dont work out, I certainly wouldn't mind going out for coffee sometime atf :p

Haha I'm glad it's going well! Seems rare to find someone you click with instantly
 

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I'm probably going to disable mine for similar reasons. I'm terrible at responding to messages and I feel bad because some cool dudes have sent me ones but I haven't wanted to respond back. Not really fair to them.

Plus, the one date I had earlier this week has apparently led to nothing. I'm just not ready for this shit.
Why is this exactly? Did they not give openings to conversations? Have you noticed a difference in the ones you do respond to as compared to the ones you don't? Or is it just, for lack of a better term, a lack of energy?
 
Why is this exactly? Did they not give openings to conversations? Have you noticed a difference in the ones you do respond to as compared to the ones you don't? Or is it just, for lack of a better term, a lack of energy?

Good questions. Right now, I'm not 100% invested in meeting guys on OkCupid since I'm waiting to see how a potential dating situation shakes out over the next week or so. But normally, I'd say the biggest thing that makes me want to respond is showing a sense of humor/sarcasm. I respond really well to slightly sarcastic messages, but I also am more willing to respond back if there are questions that mention specific interests, especially if they're common interests. I never respond to the "'sup beautiful how's your day going'" type messages.

Just as an example, I met one of my ex-boyfriends on OkCupid because we were a quickmatch. He then sent me a pretty hilarious multiple-choice quiz that was so creative I couldn't not answer, but I totally don't expect guys to do that because it takes a lot of effort and I can't even imagine how frustrating that'd be if you didn't get a response.

Pictures do factor into it as well, which sucks, because I know pictures aren't everything. :\
 

jwk94

Member
Why are people so frustrating on dating sites? Conversations are almost always one sided for me. Is this how women really are on here? Like how do you sign up and not put any effort into this?
 

thomas_mutton

Neo Member
Why are people so frustrating on dating sites? Conversations are almost always one sided for me. Is this how women really are on here? Like how do you sign up and not put any effort into this?

It might just be that they simply get way too many messages. I've only been on the site for a week, but during that time I have apparently so far received 300 messages, replies and first posts included. So while you may sign on with the ambition of writing thoughtful replies, and probably do want to put some effort in, there simply is not enough time to do that for every message. Even just reading all the messages takes a lot of time, since many of them are several paragraphs as well. So the end result of that I guess is a lot of chicks flat out do not reply or they do, but then end up going that profoundly unhelpful route of short answers with no questions in return.
I can see how it must be really frustrating coming from the other side though. :/
 
So errrmmm I get matched with a girl on Tinder, she messages me first, we get talking and exchange numbers, she asks me to come over for sexy time, I do a Facebook search for her (we have mutual friends), turns out she just got recently engaged.

Unmatched and number deleted.
 

Symphonia

Banned
So errrmmm I get matched with a girl on Tinder, she messages me first, we get talking and exchange numbers, she asks me to come over for sexy time, I do a Facebook search for her (we have mutual friends), turns out she just got recently engaged.

Unmatched and number deleted.
I'm going to sound like a complete dick here, but...why? You could've had sexy time, man. I've been there, done it, it was great.
Although, technically, it did not end well for either of us...
 
So errrmmm I get matched with a girl on Tinder, she messages me first, we get talking and exchange numbers, she asks me to come over for sexy time, I do a Facebook search for her (we have mutual friends), turns out she just got recently engaged.

Unmatched and number deleted.

You could've sent her fiance (or a mutual friend) a screenshot of the conversation and her number. It's probably more trouble than it's worth though.
 

Valus

Member
Anyway, this is the first time in a long time that I'm too distracted to torture myself with thoughts of my ex. I think I'm slowly getting over her thanks to talking to several pretty ladies, having finally sold my other car (pain in the ass it was), and a possible job prospect.

I don't really know what my question is, if I even ever had one. I just had to get this shit off my chest.

I'm glad to hear this, more than anything else. Engage in positive momentum and you will find yourself surrounded by it soon enough. Very happy for you, Infinity Patriot.
 

stn

Member
You could've sent her fiance (or a mutual friend) a screenshot of the conversation and her number. It's probably more trouble than it's worth though.
As much as I like to see a cheating asshole get hit with karma, its not worth it. Especially when he was only chatting with the girl over Tinder and doesn't know her. Like you said, more trouble than its worth.
 
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