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Overwatch |OT2| A New Low in Unlocking and Microtransaction Systems
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oh please, there's plenty of characters who are difficult to kill because of quick escapes or invulnerability. do you complain this much about reaper/genji/tracer/lucio/winston?
Did you have the audio off? Its clearly talked about.
Also there is still no reason for it being that low.
TheLetdown
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Her boost also physically displaces people, so another layer to your engagement is "How can I push them into a corner where they can't run away?" or "Can I bump them into the well without going down there myself?"
There's the non-mech element that is pure risk/reward. You could turtle in a corner or you could spam your (incredibly accurate and fast) attack to try to get back into your mech faster.
Her ultimate was one of the most complained about in the first few days of the game but we've all moved on to High Noon, now.
I've never played her and not felt like I'm contributing meaningfully. I didn't get the Undying trophy with her by hiding in a corner while my turret did the work. I got over 20 objective kills, lost and regained my mech three or four times, ulted at least once, and reclaimed the ground the payload gained.
Gotta get that chest thumping in to prove your worth to other random players. The second lesson is to complain about your team when you lose.
PsychoSoldier
Banned
If I could make one change to Mei, it would be that her ice block should not count as contesting the point or a payload. Any character in an invincible state should not be able to stall for time. This has been a fundamental principle in a ton of games and I am surprised that she was put in the game with the ability to do this.
John Rabbit
Banned
i really like it when people complain about team composition or people duplicating characters. it's just an awesome time. it's REALLY awesome when despite their whinging you still win as a team and then they go on to double-down on their opinion, and go out of their way to state "I outplayed this entire team that last round" as we watch a PotG wherein an enemy Tracer killed them twice in seven seconds (Mercy rez).
just...really an awesome human being.
If you're with randoms I can only imagine it went something like this "No trust me I'm really good at sniping, tell 1 of the other Widowmakers to switch to a healer."
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Are you the kinda guy who only think that yun, evil ryu and Akuma are the only legit characters to pick.
Dreams-Visions
Member
She's my favorite character design by far but I haven't spent more than an hour with her I don't think. I'll fix that starting today!You sure you're not forgetting someone?
Mine would be:
1. D.Va
2. Tracer
3. Roadhog
4. Lucio (for those sweet environmental kills)
5. Hanzo (but this one is my bubble spot.)
Mhm. I had a weird game a few days ago when two people picked Reinhardt and started to fight about it. The person who started it apparently "mained" him and didn't accept that two persons could play him. Since neither person would switch they started complaining whenever they died, saying that the other person was ruining the team etc.
Of course we won in the end and the player who whined the loudest immediately left the game lol. Good riddance to bad trash 🚮
She has an iceblock that heals for half her HP, that is the extent of her "forgiving" moveset. Her primary fire requires a few seconds of constant attacks to freeze, any break in that increases how long it takes. Any hero with a dash/escape gets out of it and puts them at the advantage. Same thing with her ultimate. The icewall only saves her if its a chokepoint.
In what way is her gameplay forgiving? Are Roadhog and Soldier all forgiving because they have self heals?
be a thing the opponent has to deal with to get through to the squishies. so a protection tank.
Reaper can't do anything when he phazes, I just chase him down and finish him off.
Genji has 200 HP and can't heal, Mei has 250 I believe? For Genji I switch to Winston and leap to cut him off and melt him. Lucio also melts to Winston even with self heal. Had a really good Genji player who destroyed most of my team early on in a defend the payload mission, switched to Winston and basically took him out of the game for the last half of it.
Tracer is also weak to Winston, I basically chase her until she rewinds, most of the time they won't attempt to fight me again. Sometimes striking fear by your appearance is all you need to do.
Never played a really good Winston, kill him mostly as Tracer because most of them didn't realize that they should be focusing on me. Kill Winston as Winston too.
It helps that I play most of those characters. I did play Mei a bit but she was just not fun to me, didn't have frustration with her but she didn't feel like an engaging FPS character she's built to deny dueling period, similar to Bastion. Fought a whole team of her in a wue and we destroyed them, but it was not fun, it was boring.
timetokill
Banned
My top 5 in terms of preference:
1. D.Va
2. Mei
3. Junkrat
4. Widowmaker
5. Symmetra
But honestly I end up playing Symmetra almost every time on defense, at least for A.
As much as I enjoy D.Va, she really needs a buff in some area. She's too fragile to be a real tank.
1. D.Va
2. Mei
3. Junkrat
4. Widowmaker
5. Symmetra
But honestly I end up playing Symmetra almost every time on defense, at least for A.
As much as I enjoy D.Va, she really needs a buff in some area. She's too fragile to be a real tank.
Ranmo
Member
1.Tracer
2. Soldier 76
3. D. Va
4. Winston
5. Mercy
Kind of tough since I try to be pretty diverse, but these definitely are the ones I find the most enjoyable. Would have liked to throw Bastion up there but the only time I'd consider it incredibly fun is when me and my pals are doing a protect the Bastion comp.
2. Soldier 76
3. D. Va
4. Winston
5. Mercy
Kind of tough since I try to be pretty diverse, but these definitely are the ones I find the most enjoyable. Would have liked to throw Bastion up there but the only time I'd consider it incredibly fun is when me and my pals are doing a protect the Bastion comp.
Lady Siara
Member
Here are some general tips and info that spring to mind.
General tips:
Sieging:
Character specific:
Feel free to add your own suggestions, these are just things off of the top of my head.
General tips:
- Look up and behind for gankers and other annoyances. Ganking is so, so effective right now because people have tunnel vision on the objective.
- Get on the point to stop the capture bar from filling.
- Don't be afraid to switch characters if what you're playing isn't working.
- Crouching makes your footsteps quieter.
- You can place things on top of the payload like Winston's bubble, Soldier 76's heal and even Torbjorn's turret.
- Remember that snipers give vision! I've been caught before thinking I was sneaky only to be in plain sight.
- Keep an ear out for audio cues like 'Behind you!' and things like Reaper's teleport. This also applies to enemy footsteps, of which McCree has some of the loudest in the game.
- Use your environment! Environmental kills are quite powerful and characters that have them demand respect when near ledges.
- Don't allow an enemy sniper to set up shop and wreck havoc. Coordinate a gank attack if you need to!
- Killing and spawn camping a high priority target can be effective if a support or sniper is destroying your team.
- Stacking more than 3 people on a payload doesn't make it move faster.
- The payload heals you when near it if attacking and moves back on its own when defending if attackers haven't pushed it recently.
- Channeled ultimates (Reaper, Roadhog, Pharah) can be cancelled by flashbang or hook.
- Stacking ultimates is so, so effective. Even just using two like Zarya's Graviton Surge and Hanzo's Dragonstrike can wipe out a team if used well. Try to communicate when your ultimates are up so you can set up for combos.
- Explore the character specific options in the control menu. You can adjust auto healing on Mercy's beam, change sensitivities for scoping with Widowmaker and more.
Sieging:
- Poke Bastions/Torbjorn turrets with long range/explosives.
- If the enemy team is bunkered down in one spot, abuse Mei's ice wall to circle around for a better vantage point or even rush them.
- Winston, Symmetra and Reinhardt can attack through Reinhardt shield. These also apply to Genji's reflect.
- Winston, D.va and gankers like Tracer/Genji are great for harassing Widowmakers.
- Don't be discouraged from using your ultimate. Even if it doesn't get any kills, you can use it to deny the enemy team from certain areas where they're bunkered down, allowing you to rush in.
- Don't underestimate Torbjorn, even without a turret. His gun can be fairly effective and if he uses his ultimate, he's surprisingly tanky.
- If the enemy has a Symmetra, scout for the teleporter. The few moments you use to find and kill it will save you 6 free enemy respawns.
Character specific:
- Don't shoot Zarya's bubbles. Her DPS can double in 3 seconds of poor play, making her a monster.
- Bastion has a bright blue weakspot when in sentry mode. Shoot it, it has the same multiplier as a headshot (2x).
- Focus Mercy down before blowing your AOE ults.
- Don't forget that Junkrat drops bombs when he dies. Don't worry, you'll forget.
- Genji's dash cooldown is reset if you get an assist or kill.
- When switching between forms as Bastion, your weapons are reloaded.
- You can use D.va's defense matrix and then fly towards an enemy using her boosters.
- Mei's ice wall can be used to climb to roofs, cross gaps and block ultimates. You can also block ultimates by ice walling right in front of them and blocking it all.
- Mercy's damage boost buffs by 30% and Zenyatta's discord orb buffs by 50%. Mercy's damage boost can be used on certain ultimates.
- Pharah's ultimate can be really effective used near the ground as people expect her from up high.
- Pharah's concussive blast can be used on herself for more mobility. Junkrat has a similar ability and even Soldier 76 can use his rockets on himself for navigation.
- McCree can throw his flashbang above Reinhardt's shield to stun him.
- Hanzo's scatter arrow does 375 damage if all of the fragments hit. That's almost enough to one hit kill a Zarya.
- Lucio can be hard to take down on a wall. Use it and abuse it on control points!
- Zenyatta can 1v1 tanks easily with his discord orb and damage. If the enemy team is stacking tanks, I can think of no better counter.
- Symmetra's primary fire increases its damage the longer it shoots. At maximum power, it does around 120 damage second.
- A good Reinhardt knows when to turtle and when to go in. He has the most crowd control on any one hero in the game.
- Tracer's ult can be more effective thrown on the ground than stuck to a person.
- Use care when playing Roadhog and being a bullet sponge as the enemy can charge their ultimates quickly if you're focused often. This applies to an ulting Winston, too.
Feel free to add your own suggestions, these are just things off of the top of my head.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
My most played characters after 30ish hours:
1. Lucio
2. Reinhardt
3. Torbjorn
4. D. Va
5. Soldier 76
Shortly followed by Symmetra and Zarya who I play more lately.
Demoskinos
Member
Don't listen to Demos.
Place your teleporter somewhere that I can find it easily
I nearly almost got the trophy for destroying 3 of them the other day. I was RIGHT BY the 3rd one but didnt' see it until after the match ended. D:
Are you talking about Zarya?
As someone who hasn't bought the game yet, I'd love to know how well does the game's graphics scale down and perform on low-end hardware? Is it even worth buying if you're currently on a laptop with integrated graphics? What I currently have is an i5 6200U with Intel HD 520m and 8 GB RAM.
Won't be getting a gaming PC for a little while, but would love to get my hands on the game before then.
Won't be getting a gaming PC for a little while, but would love to get my hands on the game before then.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
No, I don't think so, or I am very bad at playing her as the main tank. Her shields don't come often enough to do that.
Really, it's only rein that does that. Winston sorta in that his shield is more for initiating a point but in my experience it can't give the long lasting protection a rein gives.
Zarya isn't there to protect squishies, roadhog isn't there to protect squishies, Winston isn't there to protect squishies and d.va isn't there to protect squishies.
Glass Shark
Banned
1. Roadhog
2. Lucio
3. Torbjorn
4. Zenyatta
5. Reaper
2. Lucio
3. Torbjorn
4. Zenyatta
5. Reaper
ShadowsFell
Member
Hmm, who to get some more time in with today? I truly love playing Reinhardt, but I'd also love to get my groove on with some of the characters I haven't spent as much time with. Maybe Roadhog, though I don't really like his ultimate.
I can't say for sure, but I know people have had it running on things like Surface Pros without too much problem. You have to turn the settings down, of course, but you don't need a beast of a machine to run it.
SDCowboy
Member
No it broke out over the healer not healing well enough and all hell broke lose from there. haha
Yeah which is why I said the game needs a second main tank because there's not even "roughly only 2.".
Winston's shield is way too fragile for anything than a clutch ult block IMO, and his body isn't great either. A+ tank for picking out squishies though.
according to The Unit Lost it's stupid/idiotic/absurd to rank the characters.
1. Widow
2. Genji
3. Mei
4. Junkrat
5. Lucio
6. Pharah
7. D.Va
8. McCree
9. Zarya
10. Hanzo
11. Reaper
12. Mercy
13. Roadhog
14. Soldier 76
15. Winston
16. Symettra
17. Reinhardt
18. Tracer
19. Torbjorn
20. Bastion
21. Zenyatta
the rest of their content is really good
1. Widow
2. Genji
3. Mei
4. Junkrat
5. Lucio
6. Pharah
7. D.Va
8. McCree
9. Zarya
10. Hanzo
11. Reaper
12. Mercy
13. Roadhog
14. Soldier 76
15. Winston
16. Symettra
17. Reinhardt
18. Tracer
19. Torbjorn
20. Bastion
21. Zenyatta
You can't iceblock out of his stun, you have to wait until it wears off so you have to hope he's awful.
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