Yesterday I was playing as lucio on attack. Doing great with 20 eliminations on fire almost all match. Then we start to die on the last push of kings row they start to use double tank and double turret and start telling me that im a noob because i dont switch to mercy for res...maybe you should swith your useless dva for a reindhart or the soldier for a phara...but all the blame for the healer. I changed for mercy and we still lost.
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LucidMomentum
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Same, I hit 25 last night and am ready to get even MORE COMPETATIVE.
Still at a 57% WR, 80% WR with Junkrat and 72% WR with Lucio.
I've often switched off healer to play Pharah when our Hanzo and Widowmaker don't realize pushing the last point with snipers is nearly impossible.
Not that I am disagreeing with you, but D.Va is one of the best heroes to have if they go Multi Torb. (or was it Multi Bastion, in which case Reinhardt's shield would be useless anyways).
Multi Bastion is always a weird situation to counter for me. You can't tank the damage with anything, the only real ways to counter are to snipe them from a long ways away with widowmaker/hanzo/pharah or flank with Genji/Tracer/Reaper, and even those kind of rely on the Bastion being pretty inattentive.
Antiwhippy
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We beat 3 bastions with 4 Dvas.
The funny thing with bastion players is, they are so focused on turret mode, they sometimes forget that they have to be in the point area to actually stop people from capping it.
Kayo Police
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Dude this is the worst, if we only have meters left to complete the payload, then I expect the Widow/Hanzo to switch to either a big body tank or something else.
I'll never understand the sniper mindset and their too cool for school attitude towards teamwork, there's a reason they're usually the class people complain most about.
Wait until competitive is what I think that person was saying.
I'm not sure how that's a threat though, we'll just be playing at our MMR so we won't be outclassed like that game was.
Unless he means don't steam roll in casual and just play like complete morons, wait until conpetetive to actually play the gane correctly.
It was brutal for me yesterday. Dunno how I finished +2 in wins over losses. I just hit prestige and the game is putting me with other prestige. I thought things would get better... Still getting a lot of games where I get 4 gold medals with 4-7 elims and 20 seconds on point.
The player drops, omg... it feels worse now with 1 or 2 players dropping at the slightest hint of a challenge.
Perhaps already posted, but :
https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/747279238424723456
Overwatch seems pretty big in Korea.
https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/747279238424723456
Overwatch seems pretty big in Korea.
Kor of Memory
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It's very rare that I leave a group. Though I did do it twice yesterday.
LonelyGreyWolf
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If you're playing with randoms, imo you should focus on who seems to have the better player skill and positioning, rather than what class they're playing. But yeah, damage dealers like Pharah, Soldier and Bastion benefit greatly from it.
The only upside of having toggle beam off is that you left click and right click then let off left click to toggle between heal/dmg while not looking at the person.
AnotherNils
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I don't get the Torb nerf. Everyone can see it's overkill that will sideline the character. Why are they doing it? Because they want to rush it out in the next update instead of properly testing a real balance?
Was thinking the same thing.
mehrmantrout
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I'm on a 10 game losing streak, though I'm at the point that i'm not changing characters for the sake of team balance esp when I pick a character first then the next person copies it and the rest of the team pick Hanzo/Widowmaker.
If for whatever reason i'm picking last or coming late into a game then i'll pick on team comp
If for whatever reason i'm picking last or coming late into a game then i'll pick on team comp
TheLetdown
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30% dmg reduction.
But only on console vers
Yeah, PC's Torb will remain the same.
TheLetdown
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On just his turret? Or all around, to include his rivet gun?
That... sounds a bit much. He could use tweaking but this seems like it will make it possible to straight up tank n spank the turret with most characters with decent output.
Just the turret.
Can anyone confirm that on consoles, if you have toggle beam selected, that you don't have to toggle healing off to engage damage buff? Does selecting damage buff automatically end healing or do you have to end healing and then start buffing?
Just his turret, honestly I'd prefer if they just have like a turret super slight tracking delay on the turret or a max range on all consoles and be done with it.
optimus8936
Banned
Ranked should be coming in the next couple of days, as they said it would come in late June, so I would expect a patch coming with that, which would include the Widow and Mccree nerfs.
To be fair I'm not sure I'd be able to tie my shoelace, dribble a basketball and talk all at once either.
I do get what you mean though. People tend to play as if it was tdm on cod. You can't win if you aren't on the objective yet people constantly run off to chase an enemy.
Thanks. I know they are being worked on separately but didn't know if the ranked mode would make it to console at the same time as PC.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Band-aid to shut people up for a few weeks.
I guess maybe they'll continue internally testing a slightly more involved rework. Like maybe something with the lock-on or ultimate charge.
xaosslug
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this is dumb... especially w/ rank'd coming soon... a good group/team can take out 2-3 Torby's easily. Seems lazy/placating, imo. If they do this they need to eliminate hammering for a lvl.2 turret, and increase his life line or the number of turrets he can set up... It's super-fucking difficult to set up a turret against a decent group of players.
same w/ the D.Va buff... a sucky D.Va player is a sucly player. Buffing her won't 'fix' that. LOL
I don't see Torb that much or play him that often but the nerf doesn't seem too bad. I've won a gimmick match where we all decided to play 6 Torbjorn. We eventually went down to 5 but won pretty easily even with them trying to beat us with Pharah. For now, it seems to still be a sort of viable tactic on consoles. For a weapon that can whittle people down and auto locks on perfectly, it can still get some use.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
The easy solution would be to eliminate stacking.
Because a 5-6 stack of Torb, even with the nerf, is still going to be a real bitch to play against. All it does is eliminate the use of solo Torbs.
I thought that as well but figure that they must want to avoid eliminating stacking as a rule for things like quick play and they don't want to balance modes differently as well as balancing platforms differently.
For this, I guess they want to make the stacked Torb tolerable now and let people stand against them longer. Solo Torb seems rare to me now anyways. I'm guessing people who place them well already and use it to "assist" other players will keep going.
If it makes him too weak, maybe they will be willing to buff him again? Unless this nerf is part of hours of balancing they tried out internally. Who knows.
Me and Rise were playing with some randoms and we died and looked at where our own team was, and they were all over the map but nowhere near the payload. When we said "stay closer to the payload" the replay was something like "my class is useless near the payload". They were basically playing the game Call of Duty style, and they weren't even getting the kills which would have semi-redeemed them. Every game was like this though.
The matchmaking has been horrible lately, during the last couple of days I've basically had only two types of games - stomping the other team or being stomped. Maybe 1 match in 10 is a solid, fun and balanced game with even odds, the rest is either playing against babies or Terminators. Maybe it's the matchmaking, maybe it's the community, maybe maps (whenever I see fucking Hanamura I just quit, the map is absolutely no fun for anyone involved), but the whole experience has gradually turned really sour for me. I think I need a break.
I think this is okay even when I occasionally hurt myself with one of my own grenades with a bad bank shot. There are some people who want it to be full damage. I remember reading a grip about Pharah being able to just shoot at her feet at close range as a working tactic since she doesn't take the same damage.
I don't think they'll ever remove having self-damaging explosives...as nice as it might be.
I'd like to know this too. I often will be quickly swapping between Damage and Heal on PS4 (My Damage is R1 and Heal is R2) so it's very quick and easy.
Dead Prince
Banned
please tomorrow's brawl don't be shit.
KINGofCRA5H
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yeah it was pretty lame.
I can confirm that you DO NOT have to toggle healing off in order to engage damage boost. (PS4)
This week's Brawl : Heroes never die.
Rules:
Can only play as Mercy
Ultimate recharge 50% faster.
100% more HP.
NeoRaider
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Interfectum
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Is ranked mode coming tomorrow for PC and consoles?
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