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Overwatch |OT8| Our love will last Pharah-ver
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LucidMomentum
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Vault Dweller 111
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Wow. Bye Ana, it was fun.
"Junkrat
No longer hurts himself from his own explosions. (Effect added to current passive: Total Mayhem)"
YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH
Vault Dweller 111
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Zen>>>>>>Ana now.
ult and sleep dart are still amazing and her heal per second and range still outstrips everyone else
Vault Dweller 111
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That barrier won't protect you from discord now. That's big.
That Ana nerf is pretty damn harsh.
Even that said, Ana is STILL probably the best healer. But purely by the grace of Anti-Heal and Sleep Dart.
Zen competes pretty hard as a healer now.
Mercy still stays losing.
Lucio off in a corner not even sweating it. He will remain top dog until Blizzard adds another speed hero.
Even that said, Ana is STILL probably the best healer. But purely by the grace of Anti-Heal and Sleep Dart.
Zen competes pretty hard as a healer now.
Mercy still stays losing.
Lucio off in a corner not even sweating it. He will remain top dog until Blizzard adds another speed hero.
Yes but being a solo-queue player it means that I can't even protect myself anymore. Ana won't be even able to kill a Tracer she just sleep darted.
if i engage zen as winston i usually have discord on me anyways since its part of the barrier dance and it has a falloff
its not like rein who sits behind the barrier the entire time
Vault Dweller 111
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Healwatch is over bros. looking forward to impressions.
If Junkrat isn't hurting himself from his own explosions anymore, why should anyone?
I'm not saying that sarcastically either. I always thought it was a dumb idea that you can't hurt your teammates, but you can hurt yourself. It was the first step to making D.Va viable when she could not die to her own explosions and it was a good one.
I remember one time that I died as pharah in Lijiang tower because I ulted while I was in front of one of the hanging thingies down from inside the room. It was particularly egregious to me because I killed myself because I shot Pharah's rocket barrage at pieces of cloth, and I died while they came out unscathed.
I like all the changes happening in PTR. Ana is going to always be a good hero because of heal grenade and sleep dart and nanoboost the same way Lucio's always going to be good because of speedboost. Sombra's getting better and better to use, even if her damage is still butts. Winston's barrier getting a boost is also a step in the right direction. And Zenny no longer has to worry about Zarya's barriers. Now if they can just shake up Reinhardt's shield a bit and fuck over Soldier's damage, they'll really shake up the foundations of the game.
I'm not saying that sarcastically either. I always thought it was a dumb idea that you can't hurt your teammates, but you can hurt yourself. It was the first step to making D.Va viable when she could not die to her own explosions and it was a good one.
I remember one time that I died as pharah in Lijiang tower because I ulted while I was in front of one of the hanging thingies down from inside the room. It was particularly egregious to me because I killed myself because I shot Pharah's rocket barrage at pieces of cloth, and I died while they came out unscathed.
I like all the changes happening in PTR. Ana is going to always be a good hero because of heal grenade and sleep dart and nanoboost the same way Lucio's always going to be good because of speedboost. Sombra's getting better and better to use, even if her damage is still butts. Winston's barrier getting a boost is also a step in the right direction. And Zenny no longer has to worry about Zarya's barriers. Now if they can just shake up Reinhardt's shield a bit and fuck over Soldier's damage, they'll really shake up the foundations of the game.
Lucio still needs to be tuned.
It is less for lore, and more for balance.
Pharah is probably the strongest argument to be made for keeping it in. Full-charge Zarya grenade to a lesser extent.
Yea, I think Pharah should be immune too. Makes no sense since Junk is now immune.
I don't play as much Pharah as I used to, but there weren't that many situations where I would abuse rockets if not for myself getting damaged. I can only see it happening for REALLY close encounters, but it's not like those would be the norm even without self damage. I mean, her ultimate alone is one of the crappiest for the sole reason that she is such a sitting duck when using it, so I don't think we need to layer another punishment on top of that for her.
because pharah has way more advantages atm that junkrat doesnt have
Nuno Pinto
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Wow at that Ana nerf, maybe that's a bit too much.
Happy with the Winston and Sombra buffs. I really want to play them more.
Ftfy
Happy with the Winston and Sombra buffs. I really want to play them more.
Ftfy
Zen buffs and Ana nerfs, it's fucking Christmas for me
Embrace the Iris, cabrones.
Speaking of:
....Stay buffing the wrong things on Sombra, lol
Red Arremer
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Those Zen buffs. No longer do I need to camp Reins for them to drop their shield to firestrike until I can discord them. O:
Jeez at Ana nerfs though, holy crap. She's gonna die so fast now.
Jeez at Ana nerfs though, holy crap. She's gonna die so fast now.
Terareflection
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Why?
Played against some good Anas and they're annoying as fuck. Maybe have the same changes but give her more autoaiming.
That Zen change is huge. Gonna make playing Rein even more painful.
And while those are big Ana hits she's been stupid good for way too long, her kit just does too much so it's a weird spot to be in as small tweaks clearly aren't really hitting her. The game will be hugely impacted if she gets picked a lot less frequently.
And while those are big Ana hits she's been stupid good for way too long, her kit just does too much so it's a weird spot to be in as small tweaks clearly aren't really hitting her. The game will be hugely impacted if she gets picked a lot less frequently.
While biotic grenade still amplifies from other healing sources, prevents enemies from healing, can temporarily take any enemy out of the fight at crucial moments with one well placed shot, and nanoboost as her ult?
She's not going anywhere, bruv. There's just going to be less DPS ana's because with a less powerful rifle and no longer having effectively 300 HP in any given fight, she's going to have a much harder time surviving in full on fights. But fulfilling her role as support is going to be practically as effective as it is now.
Vault Dweller 111
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This.
Rickenslacker
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Ana is by and far my favourite support character to play and I'm even considering getting a golden gun for her, but yeah she needed to be cut down big time. Like if they wanted to keep her abilities as they were they'd have to chop her shot heals by half. I always felt good about Mercy's capability in healing and really think she should be the baseline in that regard, so having a character that outstripped her in that category and had a whole lot of useful tools on top of that? No good.
Zenyatta being able to orb through Rein shields is a good change as well.
It's amusing that mechanical design-wise Junkrat can't damage himself now, but visual design-wise he's missing limbs, scorched up, and his hair is on fire. :thinking:
Zenyatta being able to orb through Rein shields is a good change as well.
It's amusing that mechanical design-wise Junkrat can't damage himself now, but visual design-wise he's missing limbs, scorched up, and his hair is on fire. :thinking:
Wait, is Zen going to be able to discord through Rein's shield?
I was just thinking of barriers like Zarya's. If there is just no way to prevent discord, that's....more questionable.
Lol, good point.
I was just thinking of barriers like Zarya's. If there is just no way to prevent discord, that's....more questionable.
Lol, good point.
Dead Prince
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Let me play him before they debuff
ana being able to 1v1 all her flankers was ridiculous.
like lucio and mercys options are pretty muich 'run away'
zen's option was kill or be killed
ana? well lets say i dont get you with option number 1, sleep dart. all good. option number 2, i bio grenade you which heals ME, damages you STOPS you from being able to heal and I can easily safely dps your ass even though your role as a flanker is supposed to be to kill me
like lucio and mercys options are pretty muich 'run away'
zen's option was kill or be killed
ana? well lets say i dont get you with option number 1, sleep dart. all good. option number 2, i bio grenade you which heals ME, damages you STOPS you from being able to heal and I can easily safely dps your ass even though your role as a flanker is supposed to be to kill me
Yeah, I mean I'll admit crushing flanking Genji's or Pharah's by myself never felt as good as with Ana, but it was pretty ridiculous.
veloxStrix
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Can't wait for the Pharah + Mercy meta.
Cutting nade impact healing in half on a character with no self-heal along with cutting down her damage (4 shot Pharah now) will absolutely shut her down. Especially considering the recent buffs to Mercy. No way to know for sure until it actually goes live, but that's my bet.
Envy going to miss that Talespin. :c
Cutting nade impact healing in half on a character with no self-heal along with cutting down her damage (4 shot Pharah now) will absolutely shut her down. Especially considering the recent buffs to Mercy. No way to know for sure until it actually goes live, but that's my bet.
Envy going to miss that Talespin. :c
Well no, it will not be. It will be much, much harder. Clearly it was designed to do just that.
While yes she can no longer be on Pharah/Widow duty, the nerf more than anything hampers her ability to deal with flankers.
Now Zen is probably in a better position to consistently defend himself since if Ana misses her one shot at dart, she dies.
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