adamsappel
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They could actually frame this as helping to get people off drugs, as they would give them up so they could qualify for assistance. But, of course, they just maintain the stance that they prefer their drugs.
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They could actually frame this as helping to get people off drugs, as they would give them up so they could qualify for assistance. But, of course, they just maintain the stance that they prefer their drugs.
empty vessel
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Time to start drug testing all homeowners! Wait, that conjures up the image of a white person in my head, never mind.
Particle Physicist
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I am shocked. Absolutely shocked....... Especially that he is instituting more drug testing measures. I guess he wasn't getting enough money with the welfare screenings.
I think that a lot of conservatives view criminals and people who are poor as people who are fundamentally flawed by nature (as opposed to everyone else), whereas there's a more grey view of people on the american left, that someone can be fundamentally flawed through illness or no fault of their own, but that perfectly good people can also do badthings given the right circumstances, or fall upon hard times.
It's why there's such a disconnect on issues like welfare, criminal justice, and gun control. Maybe even things like abortion and taxes.
PhoenixDark
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Frank the Great
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spring/summer of recovery
Slurpy2k20
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Couldn't handle the irony, quit reading after the 1st paragraph. Unreal. I have to remind myself that people who say this shit with a straight face are real, live human beings. Fucking scumbag.
Flying_Phoenix
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"It hasn't been around long enough to start becoming effective."
reggieandTFE
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Average people do not connect with religious missions, especially ones that go on for 3 years in France.
PhoenixDark
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It comes off as petty, and an attack on wealth. Romney makes no apologies for being rich, and if voters have a problem with it they'll reach that conclusion on their own.
With the economy getting worse, Romney will look better and better as a penny pinching economy fixer - while Obama will appear to be ineffective as the economy stagnates once again.
Slurpy2k20
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Don't you get tired of your chronic, non-stop, incessant doomsday concern trolling? Do you talk like this with people in real life too? It's fucking depressing. It's literally in all of your posts.
Officerrob
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Except for the fact that nothing in his entire history suggests that he is that, don't let that get in the way of your rant though
Invisible_Insane
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The only way you could have come to this conclusion is by staring raptly at the cover of his book, because his desperate attempts to portray himself as an everyman thoroughly contradict that assertion.
Surprise surprise.
I'd like to say that my state is smarter but Nebraska tried to privatize child welfare services which has been an absolute train wreck costing us 10s of millions of dollars
He's trolling and has admited as much in the past. His posts arent worth getting worked up over.
RustyNails
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PD basically posts the worst news stories with doom and gloom, so in the unlikely event of Obama losing he can say well I told ya so and start blaming shit. Deep down he wants Obama to win. One bad week and "economy is getting worse".
So what is the poligaf troll continuum? Baggins > Kosmo > PD?
eBay Huckster
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Yeah, the main reason I mentioned that both states are rational actors are that both realize that the costs of an attack by either side would quickly escalate to a prohibitive level - one of the few elements of the conflict between them that is certain, and as such they've tended to be dissuaded from actually embarking on any kind of rollback action.
It also cannot be ignored that some of the elements in Israel's government pushing for a pre-emptive strike - particularly Yisrael Beiteinu's leader and Israel's UN representative - have dialed down or outright ended their calls for military escalation in the past month and a half in light of the fact that Obama concluded talks with Netanyahu (on exactly that) in early March. International pressure, particularly from us, may well keep Israel from waging war until such a war would be irrelevant to the 2012 election.
The Librarian
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PD is the ultimate troll. Dude is a master of his craft.
eBay Huckster
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I don't mind it, if only because every single one of the posts in every Obama '08 thread on Something Awful was exactly like this.
PhoenixDark
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How is it doom and gloom/spin? April is almost over and we're already seeing signs that the "recovery" is stagnating. Which is pretty similar to what happened last year, minus the Japan situation.
Romney is already beginning to stabilize in various polls, especially as he gets re-introduced to the public (by the media) over the next few weeks and months.
RustyNails
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Let me put this in another way. Have you posted any positive news story regarding Obama administration/polls where Obama is leading? Don't say others do it so you don't.
1) It's still a long ways until the election. Literally nothing is worth getting worked up about at this point.
2) There is not enough data to freak out about yet in any case. Jobless claims are at their highest level in three months! *looks back three months to the December jobs report* +223,000. Oh. Something to keep an eye on over the next few months.
3) It's still a long ways until the election. Literally nothing is worth getting worked up about at this point.
The Librarian
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:lol
Slurpy2k20
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The sad thing is there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Rosen said, and the contrived backlash was nauseating. It's a fair point to point out that someone who hasn't worked a day in their life should not be giving out their opinions and what-not about the economy or the working class. Also, did Romney's wife come out of her mother's womb with 5 kids? I like how the discussion is 'ATTACKING MOTHER OF 5'. Did she not have a life before popping out kids? Why did she not work a single day of her life before that? Its an extremely valid point. You can decide to not work a single day in your life, and pop out as many kids as you want, but that doesnt mean you cant be called out on pretending to know a single fucking thing about what it is to actually have to work, maintain a job, and worry about money. Anne Romney has not the faintest clue of what any of that means, so when it comes to this subject she can keep her mouth shut instead of insulting everyone.
Alex Jones and Rand Paul together...my head hurts just thinking about it.
el retorno
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Rand Paul does interviews with that nut?
They're pretty much perfect for each other.
None of that stuff matters. You're right of course, but this is a general election campaign, not a nationwide expression of contrasting truths. It was too easy (that is to say, basically effortless) to spin what Rosen said into attacking stay-at-home moms, and she should have seen it coming miles away.
Twist dat knife.
They're having fun with this.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/white-house-shoots-back-over-silver-spoon-comment
They're having fun with this.
PhoenixDark
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I post positive Obama stuff all the time.
dat bait?
The Librarian
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Blergmeister
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Positive that he's DOOOOOOOOMED!
Invisible_Insane
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Not the philosophical definition of "positive;" don't be a churl.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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The best was PD's psychoanalysis of Obama. Now that was a masterclass in trolling.
The Librarian
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Can somebody post that? I remember that and I'm rolling right now.
That was a work of art. Astrolad level of trolling mastery.
Black Republican
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how do you think he'll do in a debate against romney?
He'll fall apart without his precious teleprompter.
In all seriousness, doped up Rick Perry and Rick Santorum made Romney sweat during republican debates with pretty weak stuff. Romney doesn't handle being backed into a corner well. Obama is going to be calling him out on things that other republicans wouldn't, so I'm hoping we see him get pretty flustered.
RustyNails
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Mitt Romney is slightly above Bush tier but still below McCain tier when it comes to being a GOP presidential candidate. Including debating skills and on the spot answers.
HOW ABOUT 10 THOUSAND?
HOW ABOUT 10 THOUSAND?
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Ehh, just by virtue of not being a disheveled octogenarian (joking, but not by much), he is going to do better than McCain. Bush was actually considered a good speaker before the election in 2000. I remember newspapers and talking heads noting that he had a good deliberate, folksy way about him. It wasn't until he had a few flubs and gaffes that he started to show off more of his goofball, semi-competent public speakerness.
Re: Obama attacking Mitt on things that the others wouldn't, did you not watch the debates? He was called a vulture capitalist, out of touch elitist, and so on. I don't know what Obama will attack him with that will necessarily be worse than what he was attacked with prior, just different.
Romney's an odd mixed bag. At times, like you said, he was tripped up by people like Santorum. But others, though, especially when a lot was on the line and he needed a great comeback, he absolutely smeared the floor with Gingrich.
True. Gingrich is a pretty easy target, though.
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