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PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.

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Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Unlike Democrats, Republicans won't throw their guy under the bus. Maybe Dems could learn something from this. A big reason for the over-the-top coverage lambasting Obama was the Left's insane reaction.

Its a lot harder to lie to others when your more in touch with reality.... Same reason Democrats lie less to themselves.
 
Really? I thought those were the best points for Biden.

YOU did.

Imagine these aren't politics and you don't have a side. Imagine 2 people are trying to convince you to, say, go work for them or go to their college.

Both have a pitch for you but at the end, but points at you and says, "Use common sense. Choose me."

How would you honestly react to that?
 
Ultimately both sides are going to claim their guy won tonight. This really shows just how bad Obama lost last week - I didn't see anyone wasting their time defending that performance. Obama just might lose another debate, but there's no way both sides will pretty much agree - he'll no doubt do better and fire up his base
 

Allard

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Can't wait for Daily show and Colbert next week, after Mathews montage on Colbert I can't wait to see what they come up with all this saltiness and victim spinning they are doing now. Take your lumps right wing pundits.
 
YOU did.

Imagine these aren't politics and you don't have a side. Imagine 2 people are trying to convince you to, say, go work for them or go to their college.

Both have a pitch for you but at the end, but points at you and says, "Use common sense. Choose me."

How would you honestly react to that?

If one was a shitty school and the other was great and the great school offered me a full scholarship and said use common sense I would fucking agree wholeheartedly
 
Ultimately both sides are going to claim their guy won tonight. This really shows just how bad Obama lost last week - I didn't see anyone wasting their time defending that performance. Obama just might lose another debate, but there's no way both sides will pretty much agree - he'll no doubt do better.

Thanks captain obvious.

We have all said Fox News would claim victory for Romney even if he literally shit his pants and fucked a donkey in front of everyone.

Problem for liberal media is they don't know how to lie.
 

Chumly

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Ultimately both sides are going to claim their guy won tonight. This really shows just how bad Obama lost last week - I didn't see anyone wasting their time defending that performance. Obama just might lose another debate, but there's no way both sides will pretty much agree - he'll no doubt do better.

How much more do we have to go over this? Republicans never admit defeat. Just look at all the republican tweets about biased moderating. I mean seriously? Just because republicans always "win" in their mind no matter what doesn't mean they won this debate or that this was a "draw".
 
Ultimately both sides are going to claim their guy won tonight. This really shows just how bad Obama lost last week - I didn't see anyone wasting their time defending that performance. Obama just might lose another debate, but there's no way both sides will pretty much agree - he'll no doubt do better.

You were right about Biden tonight, in your own words!

I told you, Obama in 3.
 

Tim-E

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Thanks captain obvious.

We have all said Fox News would claim victory for Romney even if he literally shit his pants and fucked a donkey in front of everyone.

Problem for liberal media is they don't know how to lie.

Since a donkey is the democrat's mascot that would be seen as a huge positive for Romney in conservative circles.
 

norinrad

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Ultimately both sides are going to claim their guy won tonight. This really shows just how bad Obama lost last week - I didn't see anyone wasting their time defending that performance. Obama just might lose another debate, but there's no way both sides will pretty much agree - he'll no doubt do better and fire up his base

I'm really getting sick and tired of your nonsense, grow up.
 

RDreamer

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Man, the Grover Norquist attack was just so fucking good.

Also, I freaking love Biden's spit back against the gaffe attack Ryan had.
 
Now assume you can't decide which school is better, like an undecided voter.

Or, more accurately, assume you somehow can't parse 46 months of the Obama administration and 30 months of the Romney campaign and/or the archives of those months available with naught but a Google search separating you from that knowledge, and need someone to condescendingly spout their talking points at you for 90 minutes.
 
I'm really getting sick and tired of your nonsense, grow up.

Stop getting emotional, I am trying to have a serious conversation. My general point is being made by other people as well
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/256604099301224450

Both sides tend to defend their guy, and voters ultimately decide who won. Last week republicans, democrats, independents, and the media said Obama lost. That type of unanimous implosion is most likely not going to happen again for Obama - he'll likely do well enough so that his side defends him fiercely, the media picks a side, and independents pick a side.
 

markatisu

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LOL @ people who think there is some vast amount of undecided voter out there

This close to the election we have people who know who they want to vote for but need to be motivated
 
Can we all at least agree that despite a few missteps Raddatz did a great job of keeping both candidates on their toes and actually asking for specifics? I would like to see her do the next presidential debate
 
Or, more accurately, assume you somehow can't parse 46 months of the Obama administration and 30 months of the Romney campaign and/or the archives of those months available with naught but a Google search separating you from that knowledge, and need someone to condescendingly spout their talking points at you for 90 minutes.

Dude, you are assuming that people make informed decisions about things like this.

I would think a LOT of people's main exposure to the candidates happens during these debates and a lot of times, it's based on how they "feel" about a certain one vs. the other.

They aren't running to Fact Check to see what is true or false.

They get confirmation on whatever their positions are and these debates just cement it.

The fact that we still have people running around calling Obama a Socialist/Communist/Marxist/Nazi shows how much people research a given candidate.
 

giga

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The dude who posted that ap poll on twitter just said this.

JY8r+


LOL if it's an online poll. Fuck, we shouldn't even be paying attention to worthless snap polls period.
 
Wait, Biden cracked on Ryan for voting for 2 wars we couldn't afford and put them on a credit card...Biden voted for both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
 

Godslay

Banned
Dude, you are assuming that people make informed decisions about things like this.

I would think a LOT of people's main exposure to the candidates happens during these debates and a lot of times, it's based on how they "feel" about a certain one vs. the other.

They aren't running to Fact Check to see what is true or false.

They get confirmation on whatever there positions are and these debates just cement it.

The fact that we still have people running around calling Obama a Socialist/Communist/Marxist/Nazi shows how much people research a given candidate.

Yeah, a lot of people don't research the candidates. As far as the socialist, etc., that just tells me a person doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about, and the conversation ends there. I pretty much rule them out as a functioning adult at that point.
 
Yeah, a lot of people don't research the candidates. As far as the socialist, etc., that just tells me a person doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about, and the conversation ends there. I pretty much rule them out as a functioning adult at that point.

But they still get to vote.

And that is my point as to why it's not outlandish to think that Biden performance isn't off putting to a certain segment of the electorate.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
The dude who posted that ap poll on twitter just said this.

JY8r+


LOL if it's an online poll. Fuck, we shouldn't even be paying attention to worthless snap polls period.

Yea a guy with that name is real trustworthy. The ap has their own Twitter, if they have a poll they'll post it themselves.
 

Jackson50

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My favorite moment of the debate was Biden's attempt to dampen the hysteria over Iran. I still disagree with the Administration's strategy. But they at least seem cognizant that the threat is exaggerated.
Stop getting emotional, I am trying to have a serious conversation. My general point is being made by other people as well
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/256604099301224450

Both sides tend to defend their guy, and voters ultimately decide who won. Last week republicans, democrats, independents, and the media said Obama lost. That type of unanimous implosion is most likely not going to happen again for Obama - he'll likely do well enough so that his side defends him fiercely, the media picks a side, and independents pick a side.
Has he retweeted you yet?
 
My favorite moment of the debate was Biden's attempt to dampen the hysteria over Iran. I still disagree with the Administration's strategy.

It also highlights just how deceptive Bibi's little picture show was. Israel and republicans continually frame the issue as one of Iran shoving green stuff into a big rocket somewhere, and once it's full...game over man!
 
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