BTW Gallup debuts their LV model today. Apparently it'll show a tie
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...ow-romney-obama-tied-among-likely-voters.html
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...ow-romney-obama-tied-among-likely-voters.html
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OK, just putting this out there, not freaking out yet, but I want to address this possibility.
My main reason for voting for Obama is the ACA. Since Romney has stated that the first thing he'll do is repeal it if he does get elected, my question is, if the Dems hold the Senate and even take the House, can he even do that? How much can he do without Senate or (hopefully) House cooperation?
My main reason for voting for Obama is the ACA. Since Romney has stated that the first thing he'll do is repeal it if he does get elected, my question is, if the Dems hold the Senate and even take the House, can he even do that? How much can he do without Senate or (hopefully) House cooperation?
Now I really wonder who would win a PoliGAF election.
cartoon_soldier
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He can easily starve funds for implementation of ACA.
If the senate holds and Romney won, there's not much he could do to repeal it.
If Romney wins, the GOP will have a Senate majority as well.
I don't think Romney can actually repeal it, but he can do a lot to gut it.
All campaigns exaggerate minor distractions. It's a hallmark of the political process. But what's worse is when people exaggerate the importance of a meaningless ad. The Big Bird ad reveals nothing other than some are looking to fit events to their predetermined narrative.
They could still underfund it then run against the eventual problems in 2014 to get a full majority to completely remove it
But but but PD and Diablos said D:
PhoenixDark
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Obama is winning a blue state, great. Now do an Ohio poll, PPP
Sirpopopop
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They're chicken littling as usual but Minnesota has never been anything resembling a swing state.
The Librarian
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And that's a good thing!
We need more Vermonts. He can't really do anything, but I withstanding that post-election pressure to repeal it would be hard.
cartoon_soldier
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Nobody said Minn. will swing...
I don't even know who fucking voted for PPP to poll Minn.
eBay Huckster
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Winning a blue state by an even wider margin than he was post-DNC.
Ohio won't show a Romney lead.
god damn it why are all of the state polls coming from the amateurs
Freaking out over a Big Bird ad. Jeez. You all are acting like Obama is basing the rest of his campaign on Big Bird. Again, Dems cannot handle adversity at all. Their immediate reaction is to panic and fold. It's no wonder why this party gets its ass kicked more often than not by the GOP.
eBay Huckster
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Yup he should of done some interviews not Axelrod and Gibbs to call of out some of the lies would actually get some media attention.
Obama's EPA has the power to mitigate CO2 in America (per the Supreme Court) and have sat on their hands. Them coming out against a small sub-section of the coal industry was just window dressing.
A shame the voters decide what the biggest issue is. Which is why global warming was a conspicuosly missing topic during the DNC convention. Quite a change from 4 years ago.
So, I guess the Democrat party's current agenda of neglecting global warming concerns could be considered stating that 9/11 was an inside job. By why stop there? Like denying the Holocaust happened.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...g-likely-voters-ohio-152641128--election.html
Local poll shows 45-44 O in OH with LV
Local poll shows 45-44 O in OH with LV
eBay Huckster
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god I hope Issue 1 passes so we can put recalls into the state constitution and get this piece of shit out of office
Yep, this party's base sucks. Even when we get the rare oppertunity to put a democrats in office, they complain the entire time about how they aren't liberal enough (see: whining about the ARA and ACA), damn pragmatism and practicality.
Sirpopopop
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So are you saying the Democratic party believes Global Warming is a hoax? Are you saying that Romney isn't going to tilt the manufacturing vs. environment balance even further in favor of manufacturing than where it is now? He even said that directly during the debate - we aren't doing enough to "exploit" our resources. He criticized funding for green energy initiatives.
Are you saying that the EPA hasn't upgraded fuel efficiency standards?
You can tell they are in trouble when they are desperately trying to limit days to vote.
TacticalFox88
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Exactly. If Libs who voted for Obama in '08 think he's a failure, in the context of the crisis he inherited, then they honestly couldn't have been serious about real change in the first place.
This, and Obama's GOTV operation in Ohio makes Romney's ops look iddy-bitty/teensy-weensy. If anything like the 2008 operation, Romney needs to be ahead by a few points to pull-off an upset there.
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a bit old, but to give you an idea:
I'm saying their actions over a four year period have demonstrated that they do not believe it's the most pressing issue today. You inferred that denying that is like being a 9/11 truther.
You also claimed that Romney puts jobs over the enviroment, yet Obama's adminstration intentionally derailed the Kerry energy bill because of the shaky economy in 2010. Instead focusing on getting HCR done and a possible second round of stimulus.
PhoenixDark
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wow
Really shows how weak Obama's support truly was. People simply weren't supporting Romney because he seemed unacceptable
Eh. He made a half-joke about big bird as a part of one of his answers in the debate, not a policy speech on the subject. If the Obama camp presses too hard they will be the ones looking small and petty.
sell your gamecubes, it's all over?
TacticalFox88
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Joe Shlabotnik
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Those of you panicking should at least take some consolation in Kosmo having the worst case of blue balls in medical history right now.
It means that Romney is going to win more than 400 electoral college votes. Haven't you been reading this thread?!! It's all over.
PhoenixDark
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Hence my comparison to McCain. Jackson50 is right that campaigns tend to try out various lines of attacks, but McCain took that to another level by making an ad out of every comment Obama made, thing he did, etc. It led us to Joe The Plumber, afterall.
Obama came off as disinterested and lacking in specifics at the debate. The last thing he needs to do is start looking petty and reactionary.
I think the job approval is a 3 day average and the LV is either a five or seven day average.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Approval is only a three day average I think, pres race is seven days.
jamesinclair
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And so it was written.
The Romneys are villains from an 80's comedy.
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